Is there ANY way to put the genie back in the bottle re: all of the religious holidays off?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

[Anonymous]

The afternoon sports DJ on 106.7 says that he'll do whatever it takes to bring back five day school weeks. Danny Routhier. He said he'll use his radio platform for the cause. Seems like a lost cause, but if someone is lobbying for a change he wants to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

But the ‘older’ calendar worked for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes it is absolutely absurd that spring break and winter break revolve around Christian holidays.

Ina country founded by various Christian groups? Happens.

First of all, Santa Claus is not Christian.

Christmas was created to coincide with pagan holidays.

Also, the United States was not founded on Christianity. It was founded on freedom of religion any religion.

Also, the Easter bunny is not Christian. This was found to be true by the Supreme Court.

Also, the calendar does not revolve around religious holidays revolves around days that teachers will be at work and you cannot deny a teacher a day off to honor a religious day.

You seem to have gone on vacation during history and constitutional law classes.

Let's see:

- Santa Claus is the Dutch name for St. Nicholas, a 4th century Greek Bishop. So he is Christian, but I understand the Coca-Cola inspired version is not.
- While there have been some scholars who argue Christmas was created to replace pagan holidays, there are many more who sharply disagree. For example take a look at Tim Larsen's Oxford Handbook of Christmas for an example
- While the Constitution enshrined freedom of any religion, I do think most of our Deist and Christian-adjacent (few were actually Christian) founders would be surprised where the first ammendment has taken us. But hopefully not in a bad way. At the time all they were trying to do was prevent the US from becoming 17th century Europe with the never ending inter-denominational warfare.
- Sure, we can all agree the Easter bunny is not Christian

That said, I personally have always been a fan of the idea that the school calendar around here should follow federal holidays and limited teacher workdays and that's about it. My kids left FCPS for a Christian private and our current school does not tie spring break to Easter.

Take it up with the Supreme Court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_v._Donnelly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We certainly had a better education system when we only recognized Christian holidays. Even the reprobates at NYSE and CME take off Good Friday.

Lots of Muslim countries if you prefer that vibe.

We don’t “recognize” Jewish holidays. We just have them off because there aren’t enough teachers to teach on those days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The afternoon sports DJ on 106.7 says that he'll do whatever it takes to bring back five day school weeks. Danny Routhier. He said he'll use his radio platform for the cause. Seems like a lost cause, but if someone is lobbying for a change he wants to help.

He seems crazy and unhinged. And the comments to his post show almost no one agreed with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We certainly had a better education system when we only recognized Christian holidays. Even the reprobates at NYSE and CME take off Good Friday.

Lots of Muslim countries if you prefer that vibe.

We don’t “recognize” Jewish holidays. We just have them off because there aren’t enough teachers to teach on those days.

There was never data to support that.

[Anonymous]

Best way would be to remove Christmas and Easter. That would cause enough an uproar that all religious holidays would be examined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

But the ‘older’ calendar worked for everyone.

This one works better for people who are Muslim or Jewish. It works better for secondary students who get more study time. Perhaps by “everyone” you mean all the Christians with elementary aged students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

But the ‘older’ calendar worked for everyone.

This one works better for people who are Muslim or Jewish. It works better for secondary students who get more study time. Perhaps by “everyone” you mean all the Christians with elementary aged students.

I disagree that it works better for secondary students. The choppy schedule is disruptive to everyone. It also has drastically contributed to an increase in chronic absenteeism.

I also think folks of all faiths appreciate having breaks that are consolidated so that they can travel or visit family. Random days off in the middle of weeks doesn't help anyone with those goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

But the ‘older’ calendar worked for everyone.

This one works better for people who are Muslim or Jewish. It works better for secondary students who get more study time. Perhaps by “everyone” you mean all the Christians with elementary aged students.

Most Muslims I know would rather be in school. You sound ignorant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The afternoon sports DJ on 106.7 says that he'll do whatever it takes to bring back five day school weeks. Danny Routhier. He said he'll use his radio platform for the cause. Seems like a lost cause, but if someone is lobbying for a change he wants to help.

He seems crazy and unhinged. And the comments to his post show almost no one agreed with him.

What post? I just heard a clip from his radio show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think having every religious holiday under the sun is absolutely absurd but maybe I’m in the minority.

Monday and Friday off this week after spring break? Absolutely asinine.

Yes, you're in the minority. And you're an -ist of some sort.

Why is it absurd? Explain it to me like I'm five.

DP. Country did school for a long time with a basic formula. Start after Labor Day, fall break, winter break, spring break, assorted federal holidays that occur outside of breaks, and end right around Memorial Day.

There are still school systems that successfully execute this basic formula.

Sounds like you are just stuck in a “back in MY DAY” thought loop. Why does everything have to be dragged back to the 1960s to appease your sense of stability?

It doesn’t but look at what happens when you get rid of Lucy Caulkins and go back to phonics, kids learn to read again, even San Francisco is teaching Algebra in middle school again. Nothing wrong with trying new ideas. But when they don’t work there is no harm or shame in going back to what does work.

Even then, the kids aren’t reading Dick and Jane books. I memorized all the phonics rules in 1st grade because my teacher was very old even in 1980. It didnt’ help me become a better reader ( I was already reading). Things have changed. You don’t have to completely revert when a group gets vocal. This calendar IS working for high school and secondary students. They should just get SACC to cover the days off in the middle of a week and then the elementary parents who are upset will be okay.

But the ‘older’ calendar worked for everyone.

This one works better for people who are Muslim or Jewish. It works better for secondary students who get more study time. Perhaps by “everyone” you mean all the Christians with elementary aged students.

I was talking about low income learners who get more educational stability through consistency at all ages.

Not a Christian BTW.