top sports/weather trumps academics?

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I'm not even sure why Rice was included in op's post. It's sort of a niche school known for its STEM program, with no notable spectator sports (all sports are D3) and the weather in Houston is pretty miserable (but it doesn't snow).

Nashville weather is not much different than DC's. Less snow but not much warmer.

North Carolina and some of the SE states do have better weather.

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Anonymous wrote:crazy the shift at my DCs private in terms of priorities. Seems like a palpable shift from DCs older sister, where her friend group all wanted ivies or bust. DC friend group seems to prioritize the “experience” and a fun good weather vibe. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but Duke and Vandy out in front of every school save HYPSM in terms of interest. Vandy resurgence in football and basketball not hurting - just flipped on espn and party scene at SEC bball finals in Nashville, Vandy kids living the life according to my DC. sigh

So you don’t think Duke and Vandy offer strong academics?

Right? I would put Duke and Vandy in the same category as Ivy academics when compared to actual SEC flagship schools like Alabama (which also have their own value.) The distinction is small in the broader picture.

Dp, Duke and Vandy aren’t peers. Vandy on the same level as Wash U and Emory, Duke as Hopkins, NW, Chicago.

They are all peers, they are all peers with any of the Ivies as well. The constant attempts at granular slicing and ranking are nonsensical yet you persist.

That’s rich, I wasn’t the one who started this thread. Sorry if it makes you sad, Vandy mom, but the majority of the world doesn’t see Vandy as a peer to the Ivies or Duke. It’s still a very good school as is Wash U, Emory, Georgetown, etc . . ,

Vandy, Emory, WashU, Georgetown are peers with Cornell and Dartmouth. You can see that on Parchment..

+1, not sure if Cornell and SAT just perform poorly or the others happen to overperform, but these schools are low ivy level, including Rice in this group. But Vandy does lead the pack.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than HYP, nobody cares about the Ivies. Duke has the entire package-world class academics, fantastic sports, best campus in US, and enviable weather.

The copium is strong in this one.

Duke is distinctive if you’re looking at southern schools. Otherwise it’s painfully try-hard and not on par with HYPSM. It has a lot of special programs to try and boost its exclusivity and they are all variations on an honors college at a state university. HYPSM doesn’t need them to be elite.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than HYP, nobody cares about the Ivies. Duke has the entire package-world class academics, fantastic sports, best campus in US, and enviable weather.

The copium is strong in this one.

Duke is distinctive if you’re looking at southern schools. Otherwise it’s painfully try-hard and not on par with HYPSM. It has a lot of special programs to try and boost its exclusivity and they are all variations on an honors college at a state university. HYPSM doesn’t need them to be elite.

Does Northwestern have slightly better academics and stronger students relative to Duke? Do the two schools have similar campus culture?

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Anonymous wrote:crazy the shift at my DCs private in terms of priorities. Seems like a palpable shift from DCs older sister, where her friend group all wanted ivies or bust. DC friend group seems to prioritize the “experience” and a fun good weather vibe. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but Duke and Vandy out in front of every school save HYPSM in terms of interest. Vandy resurgence in football and basketball not hurting - just flipped on espn and party scene at SEC bball finals in Nashville, Vandy kids living the life according to my DC. sigh

So you don’t think Duke and Vandy offer strong academics?

Right? I would put Duke and Vandy in the same category as Ivy academics when compared to actual SEC flagship schools like Alabama (which also have their own value.) The distinction is small in the broader picture.

Dp, Duke and Vandy aren’t peers. Vandy on the same level as Wash U and Emory, Duke as Hopkins, NW, Chicago.

They are all peers, they are all peers with any of the Ivies as well. The constant attempts at granular slicing and ranking are nonsensical yet you persist.

That’s rich, I wasn’t the one who started this thread. Sorry if it makes you sad, Vandy mom, but the majority of the world doesn’t see Vandy as a peer to the Ivies or Duke. It’s still a very good school as is Wash U, Emory, Georgetown, etc . . ,

Vandy, Emory, WashU, Georgetown are peers with Cornell and Dartmouth. You can see that on Parchment..

+1, not sure if Cornell and SAT just perform poorly or the others happen to overperform, but these schools are low ivy level, including Rice in this group. But Vandy does lead the pack.

This is only half true. Agree that Parchment shows a toss up between Cornell and Vandy. But Dartmouth wins cross admits over Sandy 76 percent to 24. That strongly suggests they are not peers.

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Vandy is arguably the most popular admit at my DCs DCUM area private. HYPSM land 5-6 othe top 10, everyone else wants Vandy. Then Duke, but high degree of nerds within that group. Bottom of the list is Cornell, which jumped the shark years ago with the high stress, uber annoying NYC / Long Island crowd -

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not even sure why Rice was included in op's post. It's sort of a niche school known for its STEM program, with no notable spectator sports (all sports are D3) and the weather in Houston is pretty miserable (but it doesn't snow).

Nashville weather is not much different than DC's. Less snow but not much warmer.

North Carolina and some of the SE states do have better weather.

Rice is a D1 school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not even sure why Rice was included in op's post. It's sort of a niche school known for its STEM program, with no notable spectator sports (all sports are D3)

Rice is D1 in football, basketball and baseball, although most of the time they are also-ran.

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Also-ran is being charitable.

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Anonymous wrote:crazy the shift at my DCs private in terms of priorities. Seems like a palpable shift from DCs older sister, where her friend group all wanted ivies or bust. DC friend group seems to prioritize the “experience” and a fun good weather vibe. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but Duke and Vandy out in front of every school save HYPSM in terms of interest. Vandy resurgence in football and basketball not hurting - just flipped on espn and party scene at SEC bball finals in Nashville, Vandy kids living the life according to my DC. sigh

A lot of those prestige New England schools are impossible to get into now even for top kids. Why not get psyched to apply to school where you can actually have real shot at admission, and have a fun four years not freezing your butt off.

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Did op ever identify the school or are we assuming she's a troll?

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Anonymous wrote:crazy the shift at my DCs private in terms of priorities. Seems like a palpable shift from DCs older sister, where her friend group all wanted ivies or bust. DC friend group seems to prioritize the “experience” and a fun good weather vibe. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but Duke and Vandy out in front of every school save HYPSM in terms of interest. Vandy resurgence in football and basketball not hurting - just flipped on espn and party scene at SEC bball finals in Nashville, Vandy kids living the life according to my DC. sigh

So you don’t think Duke and Vandy offer strong academics?

Right? I would put Duke and Vandy in the same category as Ivy academics when compared to actual SEC flagship schools like Alabama (which also have their own value.) The distinction is small in the broader picture.

Dp, Duke and Vandy aren’t peers. Vandy on the same level as Wash U and Emory, Duke as Hopkins, NW, Chicago.

They are all peers, they are all peers with any of the Ivies as well. The constant attempts at granular slicing and ranking are nonsensical yet you persist.

That’s rich, I wasn’t the one who started this thread. Sorry if it makes you sad, Vandy mom, but the majority of the world doesn’t see Vandy as a peer to the Ivies or Duke. It’s still a very good school as is Wash U, Emory, Georgetown, etc . . ,

Vandy, Emory, WashU, Georgetown are peers with Cornell and Dartmouth. You can see that on Parchment..

+1, not sure if Cornell and SAT just perform poorly or the others happen to overperform, but these schools are low ivy level, including Rice in this group. But Vandy does lead the pack.

This is only half true. Agree that Parchment shows a toss up between Cornell and Vandy. But Dartmouth wins cross admits over Sandy 76 percent to 24. That strongly suggests they are not peers.

Dartmouth vs Emory is 50/50, vs Washu is 40% washu, 60% Dartmouth. So yea, Cornell and Dartmouth are the weakest ivys. Its just that Vandy and Dartmouth are very similar so it makes sense to choose Dartmouth. While Emory and WashU are niche so the choice is harder if one is alsapplyong to Dartmouth.

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Anonymous wrote:crazy the shift at my DCs private in terms of priorities. Seems like a palpable shift from DCs older sister, where her friend group all wanted ivies or bust. DC friend group seems to prioritize the “experience” and a fun good weather vibe. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but Duke and Vandy out in front of every school save HYPSM in terms of interest. Vandy resurgence in football and basketball not hurting - just flipped on espn and party scene at SEC bball finals in Nashville, Vandy kids living the life according to my DC. sigh

So you don’t think Duke and Vandy offer strong academics?

Right? I would put Duke and Vandy in the same category as Ivy academics when compared to actual SEC flagship schools like Alabama (which also have their own value.) The distinction is small in the broader picture.

Dp, Duke and Vandy aren’t peers. Vandy on the same level as Wash U and Emory, Duke as Hopkins, NW, Chicago.

They are all peers, they are all peers with any of the Ivies as well. The constant attempts at granular slicing and ranking are nonsensical yet you persist.

That’s rich, I wasn’t the one who started this thread. Sorry if it makes you sad, Vandy mom, but the majority of the world doesn’t see Vandy as a peer to the Ivies or Duke. It’s still a very good school as is Wash U, Emory, Georgetown, etc . . ,

Vandy, Emory, WashU, Georgetown are peers with Cornell and Dartmouth. You can see that on Parchment..

+1, not sure if Cornell and SAT just perform poorly or the others happen to overperform, but these schools are low ivy level, including Rice in this group. But Vandy does lead the pack.

This is only half true. Agree that Parchment shows a toss up between Cornell and Vandy. But Dartmouth wins cross admits over Sandy 76 percent to 24. That strongly suggests they are not peers.

Dartmouth vs Emory is 50/50, vs Washu is 40% washu, 60% Dartmouth. So yea, Cornell and Dartmouth are the weakest ivys. It's just that Vandy and Dartmouth are very similar so it makes sense to choose Dartmouth. While Emory and WashU are niche so the choice is harder if one is alsapplyong to Dartmouth.

Dartmouth and Vandy aren't remotely similar.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not even sure why Rice was included in op's post. It's sort of a niche school known for its STEM program, with no notable spectator sports (all sports are D3)

Rice is D1 in football, basketball and baseball, although most of the time they are also-ran.

Rice has 15 D1 sports, not just 3.

And you're all a bunch of total weirdos who reeaallly need to get another hobby besides splitting hairs among colleges. Didn't most of you graduate decades ago? Why on earth do you care so much? Do you really think it makes a lick of a difference in the long run which of these schools a kid attends?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not even sure why Rice was included in op's post. It's sort of a niche school known for its STEM program, with no notable spectator sports (all sports are D3)

Rice is D1 in football, basketball and baseball, although most of the time they are also-ran.

Rice has 15 D1 sports, not just 3.

And you're all a bunch of total weirdos who reeaallly need to get another hobby besides splitting hairs among colleges. Didn't most of you graduate decades ago? Why on earth do you care so much? Do you really think it makes a lick of a difference in the long run which of these schools a kid attends?

Even 15 is way below most D1 schools. And no one is choosing Rice to watch sports there so op’s including it in the initial post is completely bizarre, they aren’t in a power conference.

Op, come back and enlighten us what DC private you are describing.