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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how poorly DC has been run for so long, and how soft on crime and degeneracy-welcoming policies were turning it into a version of Portland I wouldn't mind Federal government taking over. Flame away, I don't care.

Have you even been to Portland?

I have. I had lived in several major cities in the USA, I grew up in a city apartment, spare me your nonsense about Dakotas or MAGA BS. There is no reason for our cities to be filling up with open air drug markets, disgusting tent cities and repeat criminals going wherever they want and doing whatever they want with zero monitoring and zero rehabilitation. DC was turning into a disgrace even in $$$ areas near all the tourist attractions and premium real estate. Disgusting trash filled compounds were growing next to Kennedy Center and across from National Mall. If you didn't see it or get bothered, you likely lived in your little bubble of NWDC suburban parts or you are way overdue for your next eye exam.

This is kind of ... valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oof, a lot of gaslighting going on in this thread.

I don't think it makes sense to lump all of the changes in DC in the last year into the same bucket of "Trump initiatives." It's flatly false, first of all.

I am someone who was happy to see the homeless encampments cleared out. I live in NE DC and the homeless issue had hit a breaking point circa 2023/2024. It was negatively impacting families, businesses, and the homeless themselves. Examples I personally witnessed were things like: retail employees on H Street NE being repeatedly harassed by homeless people on a daily basis, and entire streets in NOMA becoming impossible to walk down (especially with a child) because the sidewalk was overtaken with tents, bodies, the smell of urine, rats, etc. All of this is better now, and I am grateful for it. If you are fortunate enough to live in a neighborhood that didn't have these issues, congrats. But the idea that it was the big bad government against vulnerable, innocent homeless people is false. The lack of enforcement of vagrancy laws was resulting in violence, harassment, and a loss of public spaces. And now it's not.

However, I don't actually attribute that to Trump for the most part. I actually think what happened is that Bowser and others in city government had been fighting for years to try and take down these encampments, but were running into the typical obstacle of DC activists who both refused to see the negative externalities of the issue while also using a variety of legal and political mechanisms to prevent actions. Trump merely tipped the balance agains the activists. He provided cover to a government that already wanted to do something. I loathe that Trump was necessary in order to make that happen, but unfortunately a vocal minority of people in DC have been running amok with public policy for a decade or so now, and it took a revolting orange ahole to shift the balance of power towards the majority in DC, who actually does not want to just cede all our sidewalks and parks over to homeless encampments.

The national guard in DC had nothing to do with addressing the encampments. To the degree that they participated in the process, it was only as extra manpower the city chose not to turn down. DC actually has enough personnel to do it and always did, there was just not political will to stand up to activists who were advocating for a totally unacceptable status quo. The NG was beside the point and is a mostly useless force in the city. It's a joke.

The ICE enforcement has been terrible and has nothing to do with removal of the homeless encampments. In fact I think the DC government did a good job of acting on the encampments early and in a way that thankfully didn't turn that process into an excuse to round up immigrants for ICE. A lot of people will ignore the things DC did to actually protect citizens from ICE as Trump initiated this take over, because it was intentionally done quietly. ICE and BCP in DC has mostly acted independently from MPD or the city, and certainly that was true in their worst enforcement actions. I object to these and don't feel the city has endorsed or supported them.

I obviously also object to Trump's takeover of the Kennedy Center and the Institute for Peace. His destruction of the East Wing and his stupid ballroom proposal. His plans to build a stupid arch at Arlington. And so on. Trump is a pox. I hope every day that this country can find a way to get rid of him and recover from the disease he's helped foster in this country.

Which is why it makes me angry that he played any role at all in a necessary improvement to DC, and addressing the homeless encampments. I wish some of the people who stood in the way of this very needed change for YEARS would exercise some introspection and ask themselves who they were helping when they filed injunction after injunction to stop MPD from clearing out encampments that were obviously causing a public health problem, blocking sidewalk access to kids and disabled people, harming businesses and, yes, impacting home values. Was it worth it? All so now Trump can claim he did something good in DC? Learn a freaking lesson, folks.

^ Insightful, informed, and well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oof, a lot of gaslighting going on in this thread.

I don't think it makes sense to lump all of the changes in DC in the last year into the same bucket of "Trump initiatives." It's flatly false, first of all.

I am someone who was happy to see the homeless encampments cleared out. I live in NE DC and the homeless issue had hit a breaking point circa 2023/2024. It was negatively impacting families, businesses, and the homeless themselves. Examples I personally witnessed were things like: retail employees on H Street NE being repeatedly harassed by homeless people on a daily basis, and entire streets in NOMA becoming impossible to walk down (especially with a child) because the sidewalk was overtaken with tents, bodies, the smell of urine, rats, etc. All of this is better now, and I am grateful for it. If you are fortunate enough to live in a neighborhood that didn't have these issues, congrats. But the idea that it was the big bad government against vulnerable, innocent homeless people is false. The lack of enforcement of vagrancy laws was resulting in violence, harassment, and a loss of public spaces. And now it's not.

However, I don't actually attribute that to Trump for the most part. I actually think what happened is that Bowser and others in city government had been fighting for years to try and take down these encampments, but were running into the typical obstacle of DC activists who both refused to see the negative externalities of the issue while also using a variety of legal and political mechanisms to prevent actions. Trump merely tipped the balance agains the activists. He provided cover to a government that already wanted to do something. I loathe that Trump was necessary in order to make that happen, but unfortunately a vocal minority of people in DC have been running amok with public policy for a decade or so now, and it took a revolting orange ahole to shift the balance of power towards the majority in DC, who actually does not want to just cede all our sidewalks and parks over to homeless encampments.

The national guard in DC had nothing to do with addressing the encampments. To the degree that they participated in the process, it was only as extra manpower the city chose not to turn down. DC actually has enough personnel to do it and always did, there was just not political will to stand up to activists who were advocating for a totally unacceptable status quo. The NG was beside the point and is a mostly useless force in the city. It's a joke.

The ICE enforcement has been terrible and has nothing to do with removal of the homeless encampments. In fact I think the DC government did a good job of acting on the encampments early and in a way that thankfully didn't turn that process into an excuse to round up immigrants for ICE. A lot of people will ignore the things DC did to actually protect citizens from ICE as Trump initiated this take over, because it was intentionally done quietly. ICE and BCP in DC has mostly acted independently from MPD or the city, and certainly that was true in their worst enforcement actions. I object to these and don't feel the city has endorsed or supported them.

I obviously also object to Trump's takeover of the Kennedy Center and the Institute for Peace. His destruction of the East Wing and his stupid ballroom proposal. His plans to build a stupid arch at Arlington. And so on. Trump is a pox. I hope every day that this country can find a way to get rid of him and recover from the disease he's helped foster in this country.

Which is why it makes me angry that he played any role at all in a necessary improvement to DC, and addressing the homeless encampments. I wish some of the people who stood in the way of this very needed change for YEARS would exercise some introspection and ask themselves who they were helping when they filed injunction after injunction to stop MPD from clearing out encampments that were obviously causing a public health problem, blocking sidewalk access to kids and disabled people, harming businesses and, yes, impacting home values. Was it worth it? All so now Trump can claim he did something good in DC? Learn a freaking lesson, folks.

^ Insightful, informed, and well said.

Thank you for that post, PP. Wish all comments were as levelheaded as this.

[Anonymous]

There are a thousand-ish families now departing the Middle East straight to DC that will definitely going to wreak havoc on the spring and summer rental market. And depending on their opinions about how uncertain/risky overseas life can be, many may likely say goodbye to foreign posts and become DC area buyers as soon as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a thousand-ish families now departing the Middle East straight to DC that will definitely going to wreak havoc on the spring and summer rental market. And depending on their opinions about how uncertain/risky overseas life can be, many may likely say goodbye to foreign posts and become DC area buyers as soon as possible.

Wealthy middle eastern buyers aren't looking for old rowhomes and condos in DC They are buying new Mcmansions or sprawling estates in Mclean, GF, Potomac and the likes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how poorly DC has been run for so long, and how soft on crime and degeneracy-welcoming policies were turning it into a version of Portland I wouldn't mind Federal government taking over. Flame away, I don't care.

Have you even been to Portland?

I have. I had lived in several major cities in the USA, I grew up in a city apartment, spare me your nonsense about Dakotas or MAGA BS. There is no reason for our cities to be filling up with open air drug markets, disgusting tent cities and repeat criminals going wherever they want and doing whatever they want with zero monitoring and zero rehabilitation. DC was turning into a disgrace even in $$$ areas near all the tourist attractions and premium real estate. Disgusting trash filled compounds were growing next to Kennedy Center and across from National Mall. If you didn't see it or get bothered, you likely lived in your little bubble of NWDC suburban parts or you are way overdue for your next eye exam.

You must live in the dystopian version of DC because I literally have no idea what you are talking about. I live in Takoma DC and work downtown. I am all over the city. You don't sound like the type of resident we like. You left right?

I am sorry I didn't seek your highness approval to live in DC I must have missed some mandatory "political orientation" interview prior to purchasing property years ago. My bad. I'll sign up for the lobotomy required to embrace sh** politics of protecting criminals and violent mentally ill vagrants asap (I had a recent "pleasure" encountering one in Gtown with my underaged daughter who he screamed he was going to kill).

You sound completely unhinged...and very unhappy as an individual. Why do you live here?

A person who accepts letting violent deranged individuals roam the streets, so that people have to dodge them and cross the street, welcomes nasty drug and rat invested tent compounds, and advocates for the release of the repeat criminals is the very definition of unhinged. Get a brain scan or have your meds re-evaluated. Unless you profit (or work for those who do) from driving people away from the city and tanking property values to force people to sell.. Which one are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oof, a lot of gaslighting going on in this thread.

I don't think it makes sense to lump all of the changes in DC in the last year into the same bucket of "Trump initiatives." It's flatly false, first of all.

I am someone who was happy to see the homeless encampments cleared out. I live in NE DC and the homeless issue had hit a breaking point circa 2023/2024. It was negatively impacting families, businesses, and the homeless themselves. Examples I personally witnessed were things like: retail employees on H Street NE being repeatedly harassed by homeless people on a daily basis, and entire streets in NOMA becoming impossible to walk down (especially with a child) because the sidewalk was overtaken with tents, bodies, the smell of urine, rats, etc. All of this is better now, and I am grateful for it. If you are fortunate enough to live in a neighborhood that didn't have these issues, congrats. But the idea that it was the big bad government against vulnerable, innocent homeless people is false. The lack of enforcement of vagrancy laws was resulting in violence, harassment, and a loss of public spaces. And now it's not.

However, I don't actually attribute that to Trump for the most part. I actually think what happened is that Bowser and others in city government had been fighting for years to try and take down these encampments, but were running into the typical obstacle of DC activists who both refused to see the negative externalities of the issue while also using a variety of legal and political mechanisms to prevent actions. Trump merely tipped the balance agains the activists. He provided cover to a government that already wanted to do something. I loathe that Trump was necessary in order to make that happen, but unfortunately a vocal minority of people in DC have been running amok with public policy for a decade or so now, and it took a revolting orange ahole to shift the balance of power towards the majority in DC, who actually does not want to just cede all our sidewalks and parks over to homeless encampments.

The national guard in DC had nothing to do with addressing the encampments. To the degree that they participated in the process, it was only as extra manpower the city chose not to turn down. DC actually has enough personnel to do it and always did, there was just not political will to stand up to activists who were advocating for a totally unacceptable status quo. The NG was beside the point and is a mostly useless force in the city. It's a joke.

The ICE enforcement has been terrible and has nothing to do with removal of the homeless encampments. In fact I think the DC government did a good job of acting on the encampments early and in a way that thankfully didn't turn that process into an excuse to round up immigrants for ICE. A lot of people will ignore the things DC did to actually protect citizens from ICE as Trump initiated this take over, because it was intentionally done quietly. ICE and BCP in DC has mostly acted independently from MPD or the city, and certainly that was true in their worst enforcement actions. I object to these and don't feel the city has endorsed or supported them.

I obviously also object to Trump's takeover of the Kennedy Center and the Institute for Peace. His destruction of the East Wing and his stupid ballroom proposal. His plans to build a stupid arch at Arlington. And so on. Trump is a pox. I hope every day that this country can find a way to get rid of him and recover from the disease he's helped foster in this country.

Which is why it makes me angry that he played any role at all in a necessary improvement to DC, and addressing the homeless encampments. I wish some of the people who stood in the way of this very needed change for YEARS would exercise some introspection and ask themselves who they were helping when they filed injunction after injunction to stop MPD from clearing out encampments that were obviously causing a public health problem, blocking sidewalk access to kids and disabled people, harming businesses and, yes, impacting home values. Was it worth it? All so now Trump can claim he did something good in DC? Learn a freaking lesson, folks.

This is well said. But, have you wondered who all these "activists" are who advocate for soft on crime policies, protect tent compounds and are against institutionalizing violent mentally ill and severely drug addicted? I think it's worth looking into, as these groups are clearly hell bent on destroying QOL of urban residents and their property values. Time to follow the money to see who sponsors these legal groups and loud mouth activists and also various online trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oof, a lot of gaslighting going on in this thread.

I don't think it makes sense to lump all of the changes in DC in the last year into the same bucket of "Trump initiatives." It's flatly false, first of all.

I am someone who was happy to see the homeless encampments cleared out. I live in NE DC and the homeless issue had hit a breaking point circa 2023/2024. It was negatively impacting families, businesses, and the homeless themselves. Examples I personally witnessed were things like: retail employees on H Street NE being repeatedly harassed by homeless people on a daily basis, and entire streets in NOMA becoming impossible to walk down (especially with a child) because the sidewalk was overtaken with tents, bodies, the smell of urine, rats, etc. All of this is better now, and I am grateful for it. If you are fortunate enough to live in a neighborhood that didn't have these issues, congrats. But the idea that it was the big bad government against vulnerable, innocent homeless people is false. The lack of enforcement of vagrancy laws was resulting in violence, harassment, and a loss of public spaces. And now it's not.

However, I don't actually attribute that to Trump for the most part. I actually think what happened is that Bowser and others in city government had been fighting for years to try and take down these encampments, but were running into the typical obstacle of DC activists who both refused to see the negative externalities of the issue while also using a variety of legal and political mechanisms to prevent actions. Trump merely tipped the balance agains the activists. He provided cover to a government that already wanted to do something. I loathe that Trump was necessary in order to make that happen, but unfortunately a vocal minority of people in DC have been running amok with public policy for a decade or so now, and it took a revolting orange ahole to shift the balance of power towards the majority in DC, who actually does not want to just cede all our sidewalks and parks over to homeless encampments.

The national guard in DC had nothing to do with addressing the encampments. To the degree that they participated in the process, it was only as extra manpower the city chose not to turn down. DC actually has enough personnel to do it and always did, there was just not political will to stand up to activists who were advocating for a totally unacceptable status quo. The NG was beside the point and is a mostly useless force in the city. It's a joke.

The ICE enforcement has been terrible and has nothing to do with removal of the homeless encampments. In fact I think the DC government did a good job of acting on the encampments early and in a way that thankfully didn't turn that process into an excuse to round up immigrants for ICE. A lot of people will ignore the things DC did to actually protect citizens from ICE as Trump initiated this take over, because it was intentionally done quietly. ICE and BCP in DC has mostly acted independently from MPD or the city, and certainly that was true in their worst enforcement actions. I object to these and don't feel the city has endorsed or supported them.

I obviously also object to Trump's takeover of the Kennedy Center and the Institute for Peace. His destruction of the East Wing and his stupid ballroom proposal. His plans to build a stupid arch at Arlington. And so on. Trump is a pox. I hope every day that this country can find a way to get rid of him and recover from the disease he's helped foster in this country.

Which is why it makes me angry that he played any role at all in a necessary improvement to DC, and addressing the homeless encampments. I wish some of the people who stood in the way of this very needed change for YEARS would exercise some introspection and ask themselves who they were helping when they filed injunction after injunction to stop MPD from clearing out encampments that were obviously causing a public health problem, blocking sidewalk access to kids and disabled people, harming businesses and, yes, impacting home values. Was it worth it? All so now Trump can claim he did something good in DC? Learn a freaking lesson, folks.

This resonated with me. Thank you for the comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How on Earth are people getting comfortable buying real estate in DC right now? I’m already a homeowner here and under different circumstances would be looking to upgrade my home but:

- the Potomac River is a biohazard and sure that won’t be the case forever but didn’t we learn something here?? this area is such a disaster - truly - it’s so mismanaged that things like this are likely to keep happening

- city may very well be under federal rule soon. Whole country going down the tubes but this area is uniquely bad. We’ve lost the Kennedy center. Smithsonians probably next. All those perks of living here will be gone by the time trump done with us

I could go on but hopefully you get it. Look…we are seeing it in prices. So yes demand is down.

I’d love to have lived here long term in another universe…how are those of you who are deciding to double down on DC justifying it to yourselves.

If you think the shit in the river or in the white house are good things, probably don’t care to hear from you.

This is the time to buy here as prices would go up after next presidential elections.

[Anonymous]

If you can get a job elsewhere, do move to enjoy better housing and quality of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How on Earth are people getting comfortable buying real estate in DC right now? I’m already a homeowner here and under different circumstances would be looking to upgrade my home but:

- the Potomac River is a biohazard and sure that won’t be the case forever but didn’t we learn something here?? this area is such a disaster - truly - it’s so mismanaged that things like this are likely to keep happening

- city may very well be under federal rule soon. Whole country going down the tubes but this area is uniquely bad. We’ve lost the Kennedy center. Smithsonians probably next. All those perks of living here will be gone by the time trump done with us

I could go on but hopefully you get it. Look…we are seeing it in prices. So yes demand is down.

I’d love to have lived here long term in another universe…how are those of you who are deciding to double down on DC justifying it to yourselves.

If you think the shit in the river or in the white house are good things, probably don’t care to hear from you.

This is the time to buy here as prices would go up after next presidential elections.

Or prices might come down if:
-- The MAGAs leave after the next presidential election
-- AI renders many of the jobs in this area obsolete
-- The economy enters a significant downturn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a thousand-ish families now departing the Middle East straight to DC that will definitely going to wreak havoc on the spring and summer rental market. And depending on their opinions about how uncertain/risky overseas life can be, many may likely say goodbye to foreign posts and become DC area buyers as soon as possible.

Wealthy middle eastern buyers aren't looking for old rowhomes and condos in DC They are buying new Mcmansions or sprawling estates in Mclean, GF, Potomac and the likes.

These are Foreign Service families who were ordered out of their overseas post and have been recalled back to DC. They literally already ran out of contracted temp housing.

[Anonymous]

Heard on WTOP this afternoon that SFHs are selling faster than a year ago and condo sales have slowed down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How on Earth are people getting comfortable buying real estate in DC right now? I’m already a homeowner here and under different circumstances would be looking to upgrade my home but:

- the Potomac River is a biohazard and sure that won’t be the case forever but didn’t we learn something here?? this area is such a disaster - truly - it’s so mismanaged that things like this are likely to keep happening

- city may very well be under federal rule soon. Whole country going down the tubes but this area is uniquely bad. We’ve lost the Kennedy center. Smithsonians probably next. All those perks of living here will be gone by the time trump done with us

I could go on but hopefully you get it. Look…we are seeing it in prices. So yes demand is down.

I’d love to have lived here long term in another universe…how are those of you who are deciding to double down on DC justifying it to yourselves.

If you think the shit in the river or in the white house are good things, probably don’t care to hear from you.

This is the time to buy here as prices would go up after next presidential elections.

Or prices might come down if:
-- The MAGAs leave after the next presidential election
-- AI renders many of the jobs in this area obsolete
-- The economy enters a significant downturn

Did all the non-MAGAs leave when the orange man and his staff arrived for the second time?