HB1084

[Anonymous]

I think the best solution is to make the days longer to be honest. At the current school length, a lot of instructional time is "wasted" on much needed relationship building, especially in the secondary level. If we were to make each class like 20 minutes longer we could allow for teachers to have that vital 10-15 minutes of relationship building each day and still have a solid 45 minutes of instruction. This would allow for teachers to know their students better and for students to trust their teachers more. I believe it would improve just about every aspect of the day from classroom management to performance.

You could then go to a 4 or 4.5 day school week and give staff and students a much needed break every week to reset.

[Anonymous]

So they tacked on another day thanks to tomorrow’s snow day. I’m convinced the entire purpose is to strong arm passage of this bill. The law already allows them to get a waiver after 3 makeup days. Don’t fall for it!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the best solution is to make the days longer to be honest. At the current school length, a lot of instructional time is "wasted" on much needed relationship building, especially in the secondary level. If we were to make each class like 20 minutes longer we could allow for teachers to have that vital 10-15 minutes of relationship building each day and still have a solid 45 minutes of instruction. This would allow for teachers to know their students better and for students to trust their teachers more. I believe it would improve just about every aspect of the day from classroom management to performance.

You could then go to a 4 or 4.5 day school week and give staff and students a much needed break every week to reset.

This would be killer for elementary schoolers. The day is already so long for them. They would do better with shorter days but more of them. They need consistency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If we can’t switch to counting minutes I would like to revisit the length of the school day. If the extra minutes count for nothing, make the days shorter, especially for the elementary kids.

lol. Sure. I'd love to see your testimony to the BoE saying kids are learning too much.

+1. Yes please link to when you do that so we can all see your brilliant narrative advocating for less instructional time when half of McPS kids can’t read or do math at grade level proficiency.

You are all over these (multiple) threads. Yes, it’s you, because use the same phrase with the same wording over and over and over. At this point, just get an Amazon parrot to type your incessant comments for you and go get some fresh air.

You don't think multiple posters can be commenting about kids being below grade level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So they tacked on another day thanks to tomorrow’s snow day. I’m convinced the entire purpose is to strong arm passage of this bill. The law already allows them to get a waiver after 3 makeup days. Don’t fall for it!!

Agree. I would not be surprised if they close on Tuesday for the same reason.

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Anonymous wrote:If we can’t switch to counting minutes I would like to revisit the length of the school day. If the extra minutes count for nothing, make the days shorter, especially for the elementary kids.

lol. Sure. I'd love to see your testimony to the BoE saying kids are learning too much.

+1. Yes please link to when you do that so we can all see your brilliant narrative advocating for less instructional time when half of McPS kids can’t read or do math at grade level proficiency.

You are all over these (multiple) threads. Yes, it’s you, because use the same phrase with the same wording over and over and over. At this point, just get an Amazon parrot to type your incessant comments for you and go get some fresh air.

You don't think multiple posters can be commenting about kids being below grade level?

+1. It is bad that McPS kids are falling further and further behind. And even worse that the McPS staffers on this thread don’t have any way to respond but just want to attack people who care about students getting educational time.

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Anonymous wrote:If we can’t switch to counting minutes I would like to revisit the length of the school day. If the extra minutes count for nothing, make the days shorter, especially for the elementary kids.

lol. Sure. I'd love to see your testimony to the BoE saying kids are learning too much.

+1. Yes please link to when you do that so we can all see your brilliant narrative advocating for less instructional time when half of McPS kids can’t read or do math at grade level proficiency.

You are all over these (multiple) threads. Yes, it’s you, because use the same phrase with the same wording over and over and over. At this point, just get an Amazon parrot to type your incessant comments for you and go get some fresh air.

You don't think multiple posters can be commenting about kids being below grade level?

+2. Some people on this forum are so dumb they think they’re responding to a single person on a website where thousands of people post every day.

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Anonymous wrote:If we can’t switch to counting minutes I would like to revisit the length of the school day. If the extra minutes count for nothing, make the days shorter, especially for the elementary kids.

lol. Sure. I'd love to see your testimony to the BoE saying kids are learning too much.

+1. Yes please link to when you do that so we can all see your brilliant narrative advocating for less instructional time when half of McPS kids can’t read or do math at grade level proficiency.

You are all over these (multiple) threads. Yes, it’s you, because use the same phrase with the same wording over and over and over. At this point, just get an Amazon parrot to type your incessant comments for you and go get some fresh air.

You don't think multiple posters can be commenting about kids being below grade level?

+2. Some people on this forum are so dumb they think they’re responding to a single person on a website where thousands of people post every day.

What's even more dumb is the people who think they are responding to people who work in MCPS Central Office. That's tinfoil hat behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to get over themselves. Virginia has had hourly requirements for years and they are testing way better than MD

Correlation is not causation. Why not look at Massachusetts which requires 185 days to be scheduled each year in the expectation of having at least 180 after the snow days.

Massachusetts “tests better” than both VA and MD.

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Anonymous wrote:If we can’t switch to counting minutes I would like to revisit the length of the school day. If the extra minutes count for nothing, make the days shorter, especially for the elementary kids.

lol. Sure. I'd love to see your testimony to the BoE saying kids are learning too much.

+1. Yes please link to when you do that so we can all see your brilliant narrative advocating for less instructional time when half of McPS kids can’t read or do math at grade level proficiency.

You are all over these (multiple) threads. Yes, it’s you, because use the same phrase with the same wording over and over and over. At this point, just get an Amazon parrot to type your incessant comments for you and go get some fresh air.

You don't think multiple posters can be commenting about kids being below grade level?

+1. God forbid anyone actually interrupt this self-serving garbage from McPS staffers determined to cram this stupid bill down our throats to point out that MCPS students aren’t doing well and that taking away more instructional time isn’t a good idea l.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP needs to get over themselves. Virginia has had hourly requirements for years and they are testing way better than MD

Correlation is not causation. Why not look at Massachusetts which requires 185 days to be scheduled each year in the expectation of having at least 180 after the snow days.

Massachusetts “tests better” than both VA and MD.

MD isn't the only state but it is in the minority with MA, NJ, CT.
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With all this 180 day logic I guess that means the students are "dumb" on days 1-179 and then the become geniuses on day 180. Then they become "dumb" over the summer and repeat the process every year until senior year.

180 days comes for one reason it is approximately HALF the calendar days in a year.

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Anonymous wrote:I have received no less than 3 emails asking me to sign petitions/letters to encourage the state legislature to pass this bill. I will not be signing and I hope this doesnt pass.

The bill carves out an exception for MCPS from every other school district in MD to not have a minimum number of days but only a minimum number of hours, in perpetuity. This is not just about this year, this is about how MCPS cares about our kids’ education into the future.

I’m frustrated as everyone else that MCPS is extending the school year until almost July, but simply exempting themselves out of requirements is not the solution. We need a better calendar. We need to recognize that not every group can get their holidays off (and I’m fully in favor of no group getting them off, including Christian holidays… and I’m not Christian, I’m Jewish for the record). We do not need to be reducing the amount of education available to our kids.

Do not sign the petitions and let your state reps know not to pass this bill.

You’re honestly an idiot. Most states have either a minimum number of days or a minimum number of hours, not both. This isn’t about anytime trying to get out of anything.

Then why wouldn’t they change this for the state writ large and not just a special carve out for MCPS?

Talbot County has a similar bill pending. They really ought to change it for the whole state.

I think this bill is perfectly fine. Everyone complaining about why MCPS doesn't manage their snow days like Fairfax and Loudoun with a bunch of extra built in, this is how those districts manage it, because VA only requires 990 hours. You can't have it both ways. Loudoun has like 15+ snow days because their school day is longer. Maryland requires 1080 hours AND 180 days, which is stupid. The tack-on days are a pointless waste of resources, and so are the virtual days that other counties have started so they can claim on paper that they had a day of "school."

Virginia also has the same requirements for private schools as for public. Maryland only requires that private schools be on campus 168 days. So their 4 days of “student led conferences”, orientation and graduation all count as school days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the best solution is to make the days longer to be honest. At the current school length, a lot of instructional time is "wasted" on much needed relationship building, especially in the secondary level. If we were to make each class like 20 minutes longer we could allow for teachers to have that vital 10-15 minutes of relationship building each day and still have a solid 45 minutes of instruction. This would allow for teachers to know their students better and for students to trust their teachers more. I believe it would improve just about every aspect of the day from classroom management to performance.

You could then go to a 4 or 4.5 day school week and give staff and students a much needed break every week to reset.

This would be killer for elementary schoolers. The day is already so long for them. They would do better with shorter days but more of them. They need consistency.

I disagree. Our schools days in MCPS feel short to me compared to VA districts where ES is 8:40-3:40 and HS is 7:25-2:25.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the best solution is to make the days longer to be honest. At the current school length, a lot of instructional time is "wasted" on much needed relationship building, especially in the secondary level. If we were to make each class like 20 minutes longer we could allow for teachers to have that vital 10-15 minutes of relationship building each day and still have a solid 45 minutes of instruction. This would allow for teachers to know their students better and for students to trust their teachers more. I believe it would improve just about every aspect of the day from classroom management to performance.

You could then go to a 4 or 4.5 day school week and give staff and students a much needed break every week to reset.

This would be killer for elementary schoolers. The day is already so long for them. They would do better with shorter days but more of them. They need consistency.

I disagree. Our schools days in MCPS feel short to me compared to VA districts where ES is 8:40-3:40 and HS is 7:25-2:25.

Maybe then MCPS would finally give elementary kids the required minimum amount of PE!!!

[Anonymous]

My prediction is the bill will be passed, The last day of school will be Thursday, June 18 and the calendar for next year will somehow be amended over the next few months. It was pretty obvious to me that this is the thinking after watching the BOE meeting this past week.