Help with least competitive of the three colleges: Duke, Brown, Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:do you not have naviance scattergrams? There's really no way for people on this board to guess at chances. My feeling is that Dartmouth is the easiest of the three. But it's a gut feeling. (I think Duke is hardest.)

naviance doesn't have much data since it's a small school. There has been no acceptances at Dartmouth RD. Not sure if that is because they dislike our school or that they have already admitted legacies and are done admitting from our school.

That’s bizarre that you would think that they “dislike” your school rather than jumping to the more obvious conclusion that your tiny private didn’t produce competitive candidates for a highly competitive university.

Some colleges just don't like certain high schools. Back in my day I remember my competitive public high school had some admissions patterns that made absolutely no sense and no one would get into certain schools - if I recall Amherst hated us - kids would get into Williams, Harvard, Yale but rejected by Amherst. Very odd.

And you attributed that to “hate” by a particular admissions office to your public high school, rather than realizing that Amherst is a tiny, highly competitive liberal arts college with an undergrad student body 1/4 the size of Harvard’s? Your conclusion is…very odd.

NP this happens. Our public HS college counselor says this about one ivy. Never accepted someone from our school ever. My friend’s kid is at a feeder private HS outside the DMV area. Their college counselor says Yale doesn’t really accept kids from their school. Kids apply annually and get into other places but not Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, please understand people posting about their schools, those students got in in-spite of their grades not because of them. They had an it factor in the whole package.

Also, many “nonDMV” posters are from parts of the country where the applicant pool is not as competitive, and/or they benefit from adding geographical diversity.

Ha. Yes, the NYC metro area is not competitive. Nor is Chicago. Nor LA.
Who are you referring to?

Who are you referring to, no one identified where exactly they were from only “nonDMV”

It’s not much easier re: competition levels once you get to places like NYC, metro Atlanta, Chicago, Silicon Valley, Seattle, Houston, Dallas, etc. Some of those suburban areas rival the DMV in terms of competitiveness.

DMV is easier than NYC. On par with Silicon Valley (for east coast), Chicago and top ATL schools (Westminster, etc). You people have a very inflated sense of DMV importance. As a New Yorker I find this place hilarious.

Then why are you here? As a non-New Yorker I find YOU hilarious!

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It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

I can share as a parent with kids at STA and Sidwell that these schools are lucky to get 1 kid into Duke per year.
Last year at one of them >5 applied ED to Duke and no-one got in at any point (either ED or RD). This year same thing so far--another half dozen applied ED and none were accepted.

If you're from NYC then really it's irrelevant to this board. I've never posted this before but I agree with the others: it's pointless for you to come on here and post your out-of-area superior results.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, please understand people posting about their schools, those students got in in-spite of their grades not because of them. They had an it factor in the whole package.

Also, many “nonDMV” posters are from parts of the country where the applicant pool is not as competitive, and/or they benefit from adding geographical diversity.

Ha. Yes, the NYC metro area is not competitive. Nor is Chicago. Nor LA.
Who are you referring to?

Who are you referring to, no one identified where exactly they were from only “nonDMV”

It’s not much easier re: competition levels once you get to places like NYC, metro Atlanta, Chicago, Silicon Valley, Seattle, Houston, Dallas, etc. Some of those suburban areas rival the DMV in terms of competitiveness.

DMV is easier than NYC. On par with Silicon Valley (for east coast), Chicago and top ATL schools (Westminster, etc). You people have a very inflated sense of DMV importance. As a New Yorker I find this place hilarious.

Incorrect, we can use National merit cutoffs as a surrogate for the number of high stats kids in a state. NY, NJ, MA, CA, VA Md and DC are the most competitive with the highest number of high stat kids. GA, IL, and Fl are not.

GA, IL and FL are weird states. Particularly GA and IL. Metro Chicago and Metro Atlanta are super competitive. Numbers like National Merit cutoffs are diluted by the other parts of the states. To be fair, VA is kind of similar with metro-DC diluted by the rest of the state, though there are more pockets of decency in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Carey Academy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Carey Academy.

Cary Academy and disagree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Carey Academy.

Cary Academy and disagree.

https://www.caryacademy.org/app/uploads/Matriculation_College-Counseling-School-Profile-24-25_FINAL.pdf
More than 20 in 3 years, each year at least 7? More than 5% go to Duke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Latin School of Chicago - 130 kids, 3 got in ED, expect 3-4 more to get in RD. Usually yearly trends.
Brendwood in LA is similar for Vanderbilt.
It's not that rare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Carey Academy.

Cary Academy and disagree.

https://www.caryacademy.org/app/uploads/Matriculation_College-Counseling-School-Profile-24-25_FINAL.pdf
More than 20 in 3 years, each year at least 7? More than 5% go to Duke.

Yes, local bump, our former school gets same or more. I was more disputing its 5% of class, didn’t think it was that high.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:do you not have naviance scattergrams? There's really no way for people on this board to guess at chances. My feeling is that Dartmouth is the easiest of the three. But it's a gut feeling. (I think Duke is hardest.)

naviance doesn't have much data since it's a small school. There has been no acceptances at Dartmouth RD. Not sure if that is because they dislike our school or that they have already admitted legacies and are done admitting from our school.

That’s bizarre that you would think that they “dislike” your school rather than jumping to the more obvious conclusion that your tiny private didn’t produce competitive candidates for a highly competitive university.

Some colleges just don't like certain high schools. Back in my day I remember my competitive public high school had some admissions patterns that made absolutely no sense and no one would get into certain schools - if I recall Amherst hated us - kids would get into Williams, Harvard, Yale but rejected by Amherst. Very odd.

And you attributed that to “hate” by a particular admissions office to your public high school, rather than realizing that Amherst is a tiny, highly competitive liberal arts college with an undergrad student body 1/4 the size of Harvard’s? Your conclusion is…very odd.

NP this happens. Our public HS college counselor says this about one ivy. Never accepted someone from our school ever. My friend’s kid is at a feeder private HS outside the DMV area. Their college counselor says Yale doesn’t really accept kids from their school. Kids apply annually and get into other places but not Yale.

NP. Also from a public HS. No one ever gets into Harvard/Yale from our school unless legacy + some other hook (athlete, URM, etc.) My kid was probably the first unhooked student in decades to be admitted to Harvard. I have seen younger students who tried to get into the same activities/competitions/etc but their level of accomplishment was not enough, and not one student has managed to do ALL the activities as my kid did — you need a certain energy to be able to go all out. No one has been accepted after my kid. TLDR; sometimes Ivies do not accept kids from a particular high school because they simply are not competitive enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:do you not have naviance scattergrams? There's really no way for people on this board to guess at chances. My feeling is that Dartmouth is the easiest of the three. But it's a gut feeling. (I think Duke is hardest.)

naviance doesn't have much data since it's a small school. There has been no acceptances at Dartmouth RD. Not sure if that is because they dislike our school or that they have already admitted legacies and are done admitting from our school.

That’s bizarre that you would think that they “dislike” your school rather than jumping to the more obvious conclusion that your tiny private didn’t produce competitive candidates for a highly competitive university.

Some colleges just don't like certain high schools. Back in my day I remember my competitive public high school had some admissions patterns that made absolutely no sense and no one would get into certain schools - if I recall Amherst hated us - kids would get into Williams, Harvard, Yale but rejected by Amherst. Very odd.

And you attributed that to “hate” by a particular admissions office to your public high school, rather than realizing that Amherst is a tiny, highly competitive liberal arts college with an undergrad student body 1/4 the size of Harvard’s? Your conclusion is…very odd.

NP this happens. Our public HS college counselor says this about one ivy. Never accepted someone from our school ever. My friend’s kid is at a feeder private HS outside the DMV area. Their college counselor says Yale doesn’t really accept kids from their school. Kids apply annually and get into other places but not Yale.

NP. Also from a public HS. No one ever gets into Harvard/Yale from our school unless legacy + some other hook (athlete, URM, etc.) My kid was probably the first unhooked student in decades to be admitted to Harvard. I have seen younger students who tried to get into the same activities/competitions/etc but their level of accomplishment was not enough, and not one student has managed to do ALL the activities as my kid did — you need a certain energy to be able to go all out. No one has been accepted after my kid. TLDR; sometimes Ivies do not accept kids from a particular high school because they simply are not competitive enough.

Holy humblebrag. So glad your kid has so much energy. Maybe it can be used to power your impressively large ego and helicopter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is semi-amusing how some posts on this thread make it sound easy breezy. It’s obvious if you’ve looked at any of the HS instagram pages how rare it is outside of athletes. The others you don’t know if there is a hook. It happens, but it is RARE 1-3% chance.

Doesnt it depend on your school?
Some private schools get 3-5% of the kids in the class into Duke. Others, 0.

What school is that? I live nearish Duke and there is a clear local advantage from our rigorous school, more than I see at other top schools that send multiple, and it’s still not that amount.

Latin School of Chicago - 130 kids, 3 got in ED, expect 3-4 more to get in RD. Usually yearly trends.
Brendwood in LA is similar for Vanderbilt.
It's not that rare.

Last year ONE Latin kid went to Duke. you're saying that it's going to go from one to 7 this year?.
And it's not like they got into Duke and matriculated elsewhere as Latin only sent 2 to Harvard, 1 to Yale, ZERO to Princeton, ZERO to MIT (so save us that "they got into Duke but went elsewhere" line of BS.


You are making sh$%T up.