Heated Rivalry (Crave/HBO-Max)

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I mean, you can not be a fan of The Wire all you want, but it has consistently been noted as one of the best TV shows of all time. This was not that. Fine show, entertaining enough, quite moving in parts, but it's not particularly high quality.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

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I’m watching for the accents. I know everyone is raving about the Russian accent, but how about those Canadians? Love to hear it.

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The club scene with TATU’s hit song playing in the background, esp when Ilya is scanning the club for his man (“this is not enough” on repeat as they are both hooking up with women); the phone call confession in Russian; and the All Star weekend in Tampa are some of the best scenes I’ve watched on TV in recent years. It’s no surprise that these particular episodes are rated near a 10 on IMDb by tens of thousands of reviewers.

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Anonymous wrote:[/b] The club scene with TATU’s hit song playing in the background, esp when Ilya is scanning the club for his man[/b](“this is not enough” on repeat as they are both hooking up with women); the phone call confession in Russian; and the All Star weekend in Tampa are some of the best scenes I’ve watched on TV in recent years. It’s no surprise that these particular episodes are rated near a 10 on IMDb by tens of thousands of reviewers.

“In a room full of people, I look for you.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The club scene with TATU’s hit song playing in the background, esp when Ilya is scanning the club for his man(“this is not enough” on repeat as they are both hooking up with women); the phone call confession in Russian; and the All Star weekend in Tampa are some of the best scenes I’ve watched on TV in recent years. It’s no surprise that these particular episodes are rated near a 10 on IMDb by tens of thousands of reviewers.

“In a room full of people, I look for you.”

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The Soundtrack is great. Really added to the scenes.

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Anonymous wrote:With all due respect, other than the obvious fear/concern about not wanting to come out in the NHL (or MLH or whatever they called it), how was this a deep commentary on society? Literally none of Shane's sponsors said anything about "oh so glad you're not gay like Scott Hunter" or "we really want manly men wearing our watches" or anything of the sort. There was this acknowledgment that being gay in hockey was outside the norm, but literally no one had a reaction to it except all the people who loved it when Scott and Kip kissed. And then Shane's own parents were fine when he came out. Obviously Ilya's story is different, but that's Russia, and even he only SAID how people would feel. I don't think a single character in the entire show ever said anything remotely homophobic.

How many professional male top athletes do you know who are gay? In tennis, soccer, NHL, NFL, NBA? How many Hollywood A listers? Statistically speaking, there should be some, right? Actually in the film industry, it should be more than in the general population (those theatre kids…). And yet, we know of none/almost none. Why do you think that is?

+1. There is no way Bradley Cooper, Leo, Hugh Jackman, Clooney, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp etc. are all straight. We all know that. The show didn’t need to tell us being gay is looked down upon in hockey; it assumes the audience is smart enough to already know that.

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Anonymous wrote:With all due respect, other than the obvious fear/concern about not wanting to come out in the NHL (or MLH or whatever they called it), how was this a deep commentary on society? Literally none of Shane's sponsors said anything about "oh so glad you're not gay like Scott Hunter" or "we really want manly men wearing our watches" or anything of the sort. There was this acknowledgment that being gay in hockey was outside the norm, but literally no one had a reaction to it except all the people who loved it when Scott and Kip kissed. And then Shane's own parents were fine when he came out. Obviously Ilya's story is different, but that's Russia, and even he only SAID how people would feel. I don't think a single character in the entire show ever said anything remotely homophobic.

How many professional male top athletes do you know who are gay? In tennis, soccer, NHL, NFL, NBA? How many Hollywood A listers? Statistically speaking, there should be some, right? Actually in the film industry, it should be more than in the general population (those theatre kids…). And yet, we know of none/almost none. Why do you think that is?

It’s not simply gay male athletes in sports, but the fact that Ilya & Shane are supposed to be huge rivals, the best players in the top two teams in the league. Imagine if news came out that Messi & Ronaldo were lovers a decade ago?!
It’s a taboo and will sadly be so for many years to come.
B listers, especially teammates - that’s easier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

I think they see a beautiful picture and get excited

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

I also think dialogue on a book and dialogue on the screen can hit differently, so I wish they had taken that into account. Sometimes it did feel like they were "reading lines" for lack of a better term. Again though, the actors did a great job with a sub-par script.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

I do understand that The Wire is a much higher quality dramatic TV show. Still, I don’t enjoy watching The Wire. After a stressful day, I like to watch something entertaining at night. It’a great that we all like different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

I do understand that The Wire is a much higher quality dramatic TV show. Still, I don’t enjoy watching The Wire. After a stressful day, I like to watch something entertaining at night. It’a great that we all like different things.

It's almost like you can't follow a thread with your PhD. The point of bringing up The Wire was to say that this show's ratings on Rotten Tomatoes are not indicative of its quality, but of something else. I don't think anyone said it wasn't an entertaining show, the point is that it's not as deep or as much of a social commentary or as high-quality as some people are saying. That doesn't make it enjoyable to watch. Does that make sense to you?