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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can't handle the minor inconvenience of asking a stranger to plug in your power cord to help keep a young child safe and their parent sane you deserve to be left sitting in your own feces

Also no healthcare or food for you

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

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Anonymous wrote:Decades ago in college, many of us would be taking Amtrak from DC up the Northeast corridor to home (lots of different stops). We'd go for the most empty car, because we spent the entire time getting high

Smoking or pot brownies? I have a hard time imagining this

(And if uppity mom hears of this and how her poor baby would be exposed…)

Smoking - not a problem way back then, no conductor around once they checked our tickets

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This poster is bizarre

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

Or we make do with what’s available — take two seats across the aisle from each other. Stand next to the kid for a bit until the next stop and people shuffle. If someone offers to move, great, how nice of them. But they’re under no obligation to. And demanding they do so is 100% rude and entitled.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

Or we make do with what’s available — take two seats across the aisle from each other. Stand next to the kid for a bit until the next stop and people shuffle. If someone offers to move, great, how nice of them. But they’re under no obligation to. And demanding they do so is 100% rude and entitled.

Or enjoy the babysitter for a couple of hours!

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

It's really not a crisis. The simple fact is there's a clear win-win scenario that involves moving to another seat. It is better for you to not be seated next to a young child who would disrupt your activities. And it is better for the parent and child to sit together to keep behaviors and needs monitored.

The real issue is that you're trying to make this a game of chicken. You're really just hoping that the parent will take the child elsewhere, with the goal of keeping that seat next to you empty longer. You don't think anyone will call your bluff.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

It's really not a crisis. The simple fact is there's a clear win-win scenario that involves moving to another seat. It is better for you to not be seated next to a young child who would disrupt your activities. And it is better for the parent and child to sit together to keep behaviors and needs monitored.

The real issue is that you're trying to make this a game of chicken. You're really just hoping that the parent will take the child elsewhere, with the goal of keeping that seat next to you empty longer. You don't think anyone will call your bluff.

Aren’t you tired of this same argument at this point? You seem convinced that it’s all about the empty seat. It’s not. It’s about being inconvenienced. It’s about the entitlement that of course the parent should win. Your not having adjoining seats is not my problem. Your kid is also not my problem. The ultimatum approach of “if you don’t move you become my babysitter” is asinine. As a parent you figure it out. That’s what parenthood is. You sit down and put the kid on your lap. You stand next to the kid. You sit across the aisle. You don’t inconvenience others.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

It's really not a crisis. The simple fact is there's a clear win-win scenario that involves moving to another seat. It is better for you to not be seated next to a young child who would disrupt your activities. And it is better for the parent and child to sit together to keep behaviors and needs monitored.

The real issue is that you're trying to make this a game of chicken. You're really just hoping that the parent will take the child elsewhere, with the goal of keeping that seat next to you empty longer. You don't think anyone will call your bluff.

It's very entitled to demand someone move. They may have chosen that seat for a reason. If you want a guarantee you will sit with your child or spouse, you can get reserved seats or drive. It's simple. You can put your kid next to me, but depending on what I need to get done/my mood, I may or may not be nice to your child. If they are annoying, I will tell them to stop. If they are rude, I will tell them to stop being rude.

I've had a kid sit next to me on Southwest. The mom nicely asked as I had my young child and no one was willing to move. Of course, I said yes and the two stayed on our ipad, bothering no one. Mom took kid to the bathroom or watched the child when we had to go.

But for someone like OP, no way.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

It's really not a crisis. The simple fact is there's a clear win-win scenario that involves moving to another seat. It is better for you to not be seated next to a young child who would disrupt your activities. And it is better for the parent and child to sit together to keep behaviors and needs monitored.

The real issue is that you're trying to make this a game of chicken. You're really just hoping that the parent will take the child elsewhere, with the goal of keeping that seat next to you empty longer. You don't think anyone will call your bluff.

Aren’t you tired of this same argument at this point? You seem convinced that it’s all about the empty seat. It’s not. It’s about being inconvenienced. It’s about the entitlement that of course the parent should win. Your not having adjoining seats is not my problem. Your kid is also not my problem. The ultimatum approach of “if you don’t move you become my babysitter” is asinine. As a parent you figure it out. That’s what parenthood is. You sit down and put the kid on your lap. You stand next to the kid. You sit across the aisle. You don’t inconvenience others.

You do realize how ridiculous you sound when you talk about the terrible inconvenience of being asked to move compared to keeping a small child apart from a parent, right?

But hey, if you don't see moving as an obvious win-win, you're welcome to sit next to my child. I think it would be a learning opportunity for you.

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I don't have any stories yet. In practice, people aren't nearly as awful as they claim to be on Dcum. If they see you looking at a seat, preparing to sit down, they'll move their stuff out of the way. If you have a kid, they'll offer to move.

But I'm thrilled that there are so many people that would be happy to sit to my 7-year-old. He doesn't know the concept of strangers, and will treat you like his best friend. He also loves laptops, and knows how much you'll like his favorite videos on youtube.

Just remember, if a parent is happy to sit apart from their child, there might be a good reason for that...

There’s no difference sitting across the aisle vs sitting in a row. Control your kid and don’t feel so entitled that you can make people move.

I mean I've been on a 7 hour train ride where my kid slept with his head in my lap. A kid can be perfectly well behaved but sitting next to a strange adult is different.

I've moved so adult couples could sit together. I don't see any functional difference between sitting next to any other adult stranger or another (I take Amtrak to NY for work sometimes).

For me it’s not who I’m sitting next to, it’s having the side to lean against and easy access to plug my phone or laptop in. If I have a window seat I’m not moving, sorry. And yes if I can’t get a window seat at first then I’ll move to one when I can.

That's fine, but understand the tradeoffs that come with that. Your seat mate may not be conducive to working on a laptop.

My seatmate, no matter their age, needs to keep their hands to themselves. If they can’t, the conductor will become involved.

Good luck with that. If you refuse to swap seats for a parent with a young child then engage the conductor to complain about said young child bothering you, any sane conductor is just going to tell you to move/ switch seats with the parent.

If you want to be guaranteed to sit next to someone, YOU need to reserve a seat. Simple. You are not entitled to two seats together. You are entitled to two seats. Reserve or drive.

One day you are going to be lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home and you will still insist society has no obligation to make life not impossible for parents of young children.

There you are! Same poster who got her own thread closed. You don’t have a lot of impulse control, do you?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a reminder that other people having children directly benefits you. If you don't care about growing old in a world where there is nobody to produce, transport or sell food, nobody to pick up your trash, nobody to provide health care, then fine, thumb your nose at the frazzled parents on the train. Otherwise you might want to consider moving to a different seat rather than insisting you "need" to sit next to a nonfunctional power outlet.

“lying in your own feces”

“make life not impossible for parents of young children.”

That’s not a reminder. That’s a drama queen.

Is life so impossible that you can’t find two aisle seats next to each other? Have you never ridden the train before? Do you usually get so frazzled?

DP from the one who uses the power outlets. The outlets that usually do work.

Sit your kid next to me. I don’t care.

Who do you think is going to change your diaper when you can't use the bathroom anymore? Probably not your kid..someone else's kid.

Probably not your kid either if you’re posting to DCUM, the bastion of the upper middle that pretends they know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck…

You're acting like you're going to treat poor parents better than rich kids lol gmafb

You’re trying to argue that you deserve special privileges to kick people out of their seats because kids will one day change adults’ diapers. But your kid is most likely very privileged and learning entitlement from you. And yes, actually, if I see a mom actually struggling I probably would be more likely to help than one who demands something from me.

No you would pretend not to see her struggling. That's why she would ask you to please move, which you seem to believe would be a massive imposition.

In order for society to function when you are elderly, you need lots of people around you to have kids. Not just to change your diapers and grow your food but also to manage all of the businesses and public services that make your life as it is possible.

Look around you. More and more people are deciding not to have kids. AI might take over someday, but we can barely build self driving cars. We are a long, long way away from not needing a human workforce.

So yes, if you think moving to an aisle seat and asking someone to plug in your power cord for you is more important than a young child sitting with their parent, you do deserve to be left sitting in your own feces.

This focus on whether people are having kids or not is starting to sound like it’s coming from Project 2025. I bet you’re a fan of all the steps the admin is taking right now to force women out of careers and into motherhood…

But maybe not. Maybe you’re just rude and entitled and think the world only revolves around you

Are you serious, you think Project 2025 is about protecting kids?

It is not entitled for a parent to want to sit next to their child. It is called being a parent. Making it possible for them to do so without paying a massive premium is called living in a society where you recognize you need other people for your literal survival and you need other people to have kids to be those people. So show some appreciation for a struggling parent of a child who will be making society function in your old age.

Your failure to plan does not make it a crisis for someone else. You are entitled to open seats. If you want reserved seats, you pay for them or drive. We all have kids. The difference is we think this through and plan.

It's really not a crisis. The simple fact is there's a clear win-win scenario that involves moving to another seat. It is better for you to not be seated next to a young child who would disrupt your activities. And it is better for the parent and child to sit together to keep behaviors and needs monitored.

The real issue is that you're trying to make this a game of chicken. You're really just hoping that the parent will take the child elsewhere, with the goal of keeping that seat next to you empty longer. You don't think anyone will call your bluff.

It's very entitled to demand someone move. They may have chosen that seat for a reason. If you want a guarantee you will sit with your child or spouse, you can get reserved seats or drive. It's simple. You can put your kid next to me, but depending on what I need to get done/my mood, I may or may not be nice to your child. If they are annoying, I will tell them to stop. If they are rude, I will tell them to stop being rude.

I've had a kid sit next to me on Southwest. The mom nicely asked as I had my young child and no one was willing to move. Of course, I said yes and the two stayed on our ipad, bothering no one. Mom took kid to the bathroom or watched the child when we had to go.

But for someone like OP, no way.

You have no idea how much I'd love to take you up on this. You don't have to be nice. He can't tell the difference anyway. You'll be his best friend either way.