Seems like the biggest issue with guided reading is that there were so many variations of implementation. My kids were always allowed to read what they wanted to in school. The larger issue was getting developmentally appropriate books on her reading level as many were aimed for upper elementary, not first graders. |
Those criticisms above are just NOT TRUE for Science if Reading. And specifically are NOT true in our public using CKLA. Lots of opportunities exist to read books beyond the mandatory curriculum (including regular trips to a school library much larger and with a wider range of book topics and difficulty levels than any "classroom library"), read aloud with teacher is part of the program, and now there is explicit instruction in how to write in an organized way. Much more writing is coming home now for younger kid than when our older kid was doing WW. The quoted text just seems to be someone's anxiety - because it is true neither for Science of Reading nor for CKLA. |
Do you get any sort of idea where your kid is reading when they are above grade level phonics? For example, if a Kindergartner is reading at the end of first grade, it isn’t reported or noted anywhere? |
Right, my point is why haven't any of the 400 families in my area said a WORD about any of this? Our balanced literacy curriculum was just implemented in 2019, AFTER a lot of this news and studies came out. I'm not sure what the school district used prior to 2019. But there's been ZERO grumbling about how reading, literacy, writing are taught in my school. There are NO people moving to private schools except for a couple of families who opt for Catholics due to religious reasons. I'm literally the only non-Catholic looking at Catholic school, because every other person is fine with the local public. That's why I'm wondering if this Lucy Calkins / Balanced literacy bashing is really most present in our little DCUM echo chamber and among educational circles in certain areas, and the vast majority of even wealthy/educated professionals are not aware of this at all. Many universities teaching educators are still teaching methods based on Caulkins and F&P. |
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What is wrong with writing workshops, if students can already read and know phonics?
Are old school readers and textbooks like HMH better for 3rd-5th literacy? |
Read the friggin' thread. This has been answered and we're not going to type it again just for sweet little you. |
Well, that sounds like a pretty ill informed bubble of people. Not who I'd use to guide the education of my kids. Most major school systems have looked at the data and made a switch, most several years ago. |
A PP. My school district evaluated the kids in terms of lexiles. That's a different assessment system. I think they will be using iReady for this in the future. It doesn't have anything to do with Calkins or phonics. https://readingrev.com/blog/jgon5w7jjk5analqa9bcmjm9h4hxwv#:~:text=A%20text's%20Lexile%20level%20is,indicates%20a%20more%20challenging%20text. The big emphasis on lexile assessment started in first grade in our district and lasted until about fourth grade. You may not get much assessed in K if your child is NT. I believe at my school they just noted whether the kid was able to keep up with the class. Report cards covered the skills the kids could demonstrate at the expected level. And any mild skill deficits were explained. |
I think the idea is that even if kids know phonics things like explicit grammar, how to build a paragraph and higher level pre fix/suffix words still need explicit teaching. My kids did that as part of writer’s workshops, but the sense I am getting from the angry posters like the “read the friggin’ thread” lady are that writing work shop quality and the explicitness of the teaching that was given was amazingly varied. It seems my kids just got lucky. |
Ok thanks- I guess phonics instruction is tailored to their Lexlie level then? |
What grade was she in? I think it’s important to understand what the class as a whole has learned. Was your daughter one of only a few who couldn’t grasp the concept or was the whole class doing poorly. I have one child who is not a very good reader. She’s slow and it’s hard for her to retain what she read. As a result she doesn’t read that often for fun. She does get reading help in school and she knows how to read, she just will never be as strong a reader as most of her classmates. My son was always more than a few grade levels ahead of his class. It’s because of the reading material he chooses. He starting reading books in 2nd grade written by comedians, their biographies, adult graphic novels, most books that involve comedy. He got the clever nuanced comedy and the big words. I don’t fault the teacher’s style for my daughter’s inability to read well and I don’t give credit to the teaching method used for my son’s skills. |