Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

Anonymous
This one is different, even from Trump's first term. We are in real danger, imho. His picks for DOJ and DNI show us that he is serious about retribution. Gabbard cannot be trusted with our nation's secrets. She is an Assad & Putin sympathizer, as is Trump. His cabinet appointments can do real damage. RFK says that he wants a pause on all NIH's disease research. Don't even get me started on unflouridating the water or what he may or may not do with vaccines. The DOD pick is just completely unquailified to serve, and that is a best case. He is appointing unserious people for serious positions that can do so much damage. Calling this cabinet clowns is an insult to clowns.

I am so concerned with what he is going to do with our foreign policy. Even if he doesn't manage to pull us out of NATO, how will our allies ever trust us again? Even if a Dem is elected in 2028, why would they trust us again when they see that the American people just re-elected the most corrupt, evil person to be our president. He is going to abandon Ukraine to Putin. Putin may not invade Poland during Trump's term but he certainly will when a Dem gets elected and then it will be the Dem's fault that Putin invaded.

If he puts his tariff plan in place he is going to wreck the economy. I think the business community may be able to stop him there. He is going to pardon all of the people currently in jail for their actions on J6. Sure 6 people died and 140 injured but it was a "day of love."

I may live in my navy blue bubble here in NW DC but this country is profoundly stupid. (Yes, I understand that most of the country felt like Kamala felt that way about them and that's why Trump won. She wasn't wrong.)




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.
Anonymous
Things are going to be better. We have an incoming president potentially reining in big pharmaceutical choke hold on health care and the food industry. We have a president looking at completely abusive interest rates associated with credit cards. We have a president willing to look at the federal government and its size and lack of efficiency and saying we can do better. We have a president coming in who will prioritize Veterans over illegal aliens. I am super excited and happy about the future under Trump!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.
Anonymous
Yes. I was a moderate Democrat in graduate school when Obama was elected. I started my program in the last year of the Bush administration. My graduate student loan rate tripled between my first and second year because one of Obama’s first actions was to enact a rule that created general student loan forgiveness. I took out one last student loan under this higher rate (over 11%). I paid it off first because the interest was crippling. It took three years of living with my parents as an adult and paying off my loans like they were mortgage payments until I paid them off.

Every time I hear a Democrat promise student loan forgiveness, I remember being screwed over by them while I was a student and feeling bogged down for years. I knew I was signing up to pay them back. I didn’t realize I was also paying them off so peers didn’t have to pay theirs back. I’m a Republican now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things are going to be better. We have an incoming president potentially reining in big pharmaceutical choke hold on health care and the food industry. We have a president looking at completely abusive interest rates associated with credit cards. We have a president willing to look at the federal government and its size and lack of efficiency and saying we can do better. We have a president coming in who will prioritize Veterans over illegal aliens. I am super excited and happy about the future under Trump!

It would be funny if it was RFK who was able to get rid of the PBMs because he’s not a health policy insider nor beholden to Big Pharma.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things are going to be better. We have an incoming president potentially reining in big pharmaceutical choke hold on health care and the food industry. We have a president looking at completely abusive interest rates associated with credit cards. We have a president willing to look at the federal government and its size and lack of efficiency and saying we can do better. We have a president coming in who will prioritize Veterans over illegal aliens. I am super excited and happy about the future under Trump!


Oh honey.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I was a moderate Democrat in graduate school when Obama was elected. I started my program in the last year of the Bush administration. My graduate student loan rate tripled between my first and second year because one of Obama’s first actions was to enact a rule that created general student loan forgiveness. I took out one last student loan under this higher rate (over 11%). I paid it off first because the interest was crippling. It took three years of living with my parents as an adult and paying off my loans like they were mortgage payments until I paid them off.

Every time I hear a Democrat promise student loan forgiveness, I remember being screwed over by them while I was a student and feeling bogged down for years. I knew I was signing up to pay them back. I didn’t realize I was also paying them off so peers didn’t have to pay theirs back. I’m a Republican now.


I don’t get this line of thinking. I took unpaid maternity leaves, but I support paid parental leave for new parents.

DH and I paid off our student loans around 2014 and I support ways to make education more affordable.

I was born in the U.S., but I support paths to citizenship.

I am also grateful for all the people who came before me who fought for my right to vote, open a bank account, marry whoever I want, etc. When did we stop caring about making life better for the people who come after us?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.


This isn’t really just about politics. It’s people’s lives. Most of us want to be able to ignore the government and get on with things, and Trump makes us feel like we have to be vigilant to protect ourselves from his administration.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.
Definitely. I view a presidential election about the same as the Super Bowl: you pick a team and if it wins Yaay! If it loses, oh well, better luck next time.

Politics is a game played by the wealthiest people in America. Like Super Bowl players, they are on the field playing or in a booth strategizing and coaching.

We are not on the field playing, we are watching from the stadium screaming, hooting, spilling beer and puking on ourselves and others.

You can get worked up and rowdy all you want but no matter how much emotion you have, it will not score any points in the game.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.


This isn’t really just about politics. It’s people’s lives. Most of us want to be able to ignore the government and get on with things, and Trump makes us feel like we have to be vigilant to protect ourselves from his administration.


I felt the same under Biden. I don’t feel safe. Antisemitism is everywhere now. My school is overrun with illegals. I’m afraid to speak my mind because I’m not on board with the trans ideology. It has been a very hard scary 4 years. Now I can breath again and I guess it’s your turn to walk on eggshells!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.


This isn’t really just about politics. It’s people’s lives. Most of us want to be able to ignore the government and get on with things, and Trump makes us feel like we have to be vigilant to protect ourselves from his administration.

Why not just try to log off for a while and go about your life and see how it goes? I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised that the world won’t come to an end and you can rest assured that if something really bad happens you will still find out about it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.


This isn’t really just about politics. It’s people’s lives. Most of us want to be able to ignore the government and get on with things, and Trump makes us feel like we have to be vigilant to protect ourselves from his administration.

Why not just try to log off for a while and go about your life and see how it goes? I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised that the world won’t come to an end and you can rest assured that if something really bad happens you will still find out about it.


+1. It's the scaremongering on the Internet making you feel this way. Try subscribing to a slower news magazine (is there a liberal slanted version of The Economist, perhaps?) and read it once a week to stay informed, but ignore the rest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No.
I voted republican that year and it was NOT how I felt. Obama made a point to say 'for those who didn't vote for me, I am your president too' and that was important. Trump is just like EFF YOU ALL.
he's like a horrible weird virus that no one can explain but that RFK will make sure there is no vaccine for.

Love, love this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No.
I'm coming at this as someone who voted republicanuntil 2016.
I didn't agree with Obama on everything at the time. Looking back I think he did a good job.

And during his presidency I did not feel that his decisions were prioritizing himself over America.

I didn't feel like he was beholden to a foreign power.

I felt that he had respect for the laws of our land and our traditions.

I felt he conducted himself with pride and presented us well to the world.


Thank you, pp!
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