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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

Well now a lot more people won't be able to get DAS. Do you get it yet?

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

Well now a lot more people won't be able to get DAS. Do you get it yet?

So you can’t link to the new rule. Because it isn’t a new rule. Thanks for confirming.
Disney isn’t concerned with “double dipping” because if they were, they wouldn’t allow DAS pass holders to also purchase Genie +.
Do you get it yet?

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

Well now a lot more people won't be able to get DAS. Do you get it yet?

So you can’t link to the new rule. Because it isn’t a new rule. Thanks for confirming.
Disney isn’t concerned with “double dipping” because if they were, they wouldn’t allow DAS pass holders to also purchase Genie +.
Do you get it yet?

Well, limiting the group able to get one of the services certainly limits the number of people who can take advantage by doing both. Now it remains to be seen what this does to Genie + as more people will be forced to buy it.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

Well now a lot more people won't be able to get DAS. Do you get it yet?

So you can’t link to the new rule. Because it isn’t a new rule. Thanks for confirming.
Disney isn’t concerned with “double dipping” because if they were, they wouldn’t allow DAS pass holders to also purchase Genie +.
Do you get it yet?

Well, limiting the group able to get one of the services certainly limits the number of people who can take advantage by doing both. Now it remains to be seen what this does to Genie + as more people will be forced to buy it.

And that’s still allowed by Disney.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

They're not ok with it, hence the cracking down on the abuse.

So they’re now saying you can’t purchase Genie + if you have a DAS pass? Can you link to that please? That’s not what I’ve read.

Well now a lot more people won't be able to get DAS. Do you get it yet?

So you can’t link to the new rule. Because it isn’t a new rule. Thanks for confirming.
Disney isn’t concerned with “double dipping” because if they were, they wouldn’t allow DAS pass holders to also purchase Genie +.
Do you get it yet?

Well, limiting the group able to get one of the services certainly limits the number of people who can take advantage by doing both. Now it remains to be seen what this does to Genie + as more people will be forced to buy it.

And that’s still allowed by Disney.

Cool but a lot less often. Which works for me. So now only a handful of people can do that.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

Disney can track everything. And people caught lying can now get a lifetime ban.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

And that’s fine. All I’m saying is “double dipper” pp was wrong. That’s not what they’re cracking down on. They’re making it harder to get a DAS pass. If you still qualify for one with the new rules, you are still allowed to purchase Genie +.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

And that’s fine. All I’m saying is “double dipper” pp was wrong. That’s not what they’re cracking down on. They’re making it harder to get a DAS pass. If you still qualify for one with the new rules, you are still allowed to purchase Genie +.

I didn't say it was the ONLY thing. It was one area of abuse which will be much harder to pull off. Are you the PP who didn't even know how DAS worked and said it was only 2x a day?

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I don't see why you get a DAS pass just for issues with the heat. If you have a heat related disability, go in November- March.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

And that’s fine. All I’m saying is “double dipper” pp was wrong. That’s not what they’re cracking down on. They’re making it harder to get a DAS pass. If you still qualify for one with the new rules, you are still allowed to purchase Genie +.

Yes, and telling the truth and being given DAS under the old system or using it as permitted is not "abuse."

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

And that’s fine. All I’m saying is “double dipper” pp was wrong. That’s not what they’re cracking down on. They’re making it harder to get a DAS pass. If you still qualify for one with the new rules, you are still allowed to purchase Genie +.

Yes, and telling the truth and being given DAS under the old system or using it as permitted is not "abuse."

You can split hairs all you like. But apparently the system just got an overhaul. Strange for something that was working so well in your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:People really took advantage of the DAS program. I don’t blame Disney for changing it.

I do. People taking advantage of it is no reason to completely take away DAS from physically disabled people. It’s crazy to me that someone with like cerebral palsy or cancer or MS or whatever can’t use this service anymore because they don’t also have autism.

It doesn't sound like the new policy removes all access to physical disabilities. DAS is just excluding people whose issues can be solved with a pass to leave the line and return or a mobility device (e.g., scooter or wheelchair) so they don't have to stand.

Part of the problem is forcing people to use mobility devices when they don't need them under normal circumstances. I've seen several stories about amputees who are perfectly "mobile" but who have difficulty waiting in long lines, especially in heat, as the day progresses because their prosthesis becomes less comfortable and more painful being denied DAS because they could just get a wheelchair. That seems wrong to me.

They can get a scooter. There is nothing “wrong” about that.

Huh. You don't think someone with a genuine physical disability that causes significant pain deserves some accommodation? By the way, ECVs cost $65 per day to rent, but I guess those slacker amputees should just deal.

If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. Or sit on the chair/cane. Or lean on the ropes like the rest of us. If they can’t walk around the park all day and can’t stand in line at all, they get a scooter or a wheelchair.
Quit playing the victim here. There are options. You just don’t like them.

NP. By that logic, people with zero physical disabilities who have autism can also just stand in line for hours.

Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

You only get 2 DAS passes per day. So you really are only “double dipping”twice. Which doesn’t seem at all like a big big deal to me. But once again I have no dog in this fight. We’ve never had to use the DAS.

That is not true. You can have 2 selected in advance. The day of you can book return times for other rides. But only one active return at a time.

Sorry. I did not know that. But if someone is paying for Genie + (and it ain’t cheap) I still don’t think that’s double dipping. I mean you’re paying just like everybody else is. You’re entitled to a free DAS pass. You are paying for the extra. I don’t know how that’s double dipping – I just really don’t see it that way.

Ok. I don't see how it is in the spirit of the system to use it to ride the same rides more often than everyone else and that's what people end up doing. It's nice that they make it better for people who can't wait in the lines but it's a bit naive to think people haven't been milking it to power thru the day. There are all kinds of tip boards on how to maximize the day doing this.

Well, if Disney is OK with it, then it’s just goes against your personal moral compass. Which really doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Disney can track how many DAS rides are redeemed in a day. Don’t think they aren’t analyzing that and that it didn’t play a role in this latest change. People hitting ride after ride with no downtime or breaks are going to have a much harder time arguing why they need the DAS.

And that’s fine. All I’m saying is “double dipper” pp was wrong. That’s not what they’re cracking down on. They’re making it harder to get a DAS pass. If you still qualify for one with the new rules, you are still allowed to purchase Genie +.

Yes, and telling the truth and being given DAS under the old system or using it as permitted is not "abuse."

You can split hairs all you like. But apparently the system just got an overhaul. Strange for something that was working so well in your mind.

It’s so amusing that when someone is proven wrong they claim the person who is right is “splitting hairs.”
Keep on keepin’ on, PP.