How does this country serve worse than dog food to children?

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

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Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

Because parents will complain. There are a large number of parents that feed their kids this stuff, but would rather school did it for free. Also add in, there are very few kids actually without any food/starving at home.

Schools serve the sugar crap because that is what kids (and parents) want and what they typically eat. It gets taken and eaten by most of the kids. Then the school admins can pat themselves on the back because they are feeding kids. If they moved to heathy, simple options only (white milk, cheerios, bananas, raisins) it would mostly get passed over. Because the kids aren’t truly hungry, they just want sugar and will eat it if offered. We have an obesity epidemic; especially among the low income population.

So let them complain! JFC. Some of us complain to MCPS about all the sugar laden breakfasts and we are just ignored. They could take the same approach who complain that their kids no longer get cinnamon buns for free.

But the difference is the cinnamon buns get eaten. If they served white milk and plain cherrios, it would be largely passed over by most kids. So much so that the schools would eventually come to the conclusion it wasn’t needed and they would drop serving breakfast. Then parents would start to complain (again) and they would bring back sugar crap

If kids don’t eat it then they are not actually hungry. It has a bland taste - they can offer 1 sugar packet with it to help sweeten slightly - and is not a weird texture. So if kids are hungry they would consume it.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

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Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

Because parents will complain. There are a large number of parents that feed their kids this stuff, but would rather school did it for free. Also add in, there are very few kids actually without any food/starving at home.

Schools serve the sugar crap because that is what kids (and parents) want and what they typically eat. It gets taken and eaten by most of the kids. Then the school admins can pat themselves on the back because they are feeding kids. If they moved to heathy, simple options only (white milk, cheerios, bananas, raisins) it would mostly get passed over. Because the kids aren’t truly hungry, they just want sugar and will eat it if offered. We have an obesity epidemic; especially among the low income population.

So let them complain! JFC. Some of us complain to MCPS about all the sugar laden breakfasts and we are just ignored. They could take the same approach who complain that their kids no longer get cinnamon buns for free.

But the difference is the cinnamon buns get eaten. If they served white milk and plain cherrios, it would be largely passed over by most kids. So much so that the schools would eventually come to the conclusion it wasn’t needed and they would drop serving breakfast. Then parents would start to complain (again) and they would bring back sugar crap

If kids don’t eat it then they are not actually hungry. It has a bland taste - they can offer 1 sugar packet with it to help sweeten slightly - and is not a weird texture. So if kids are hungry they would consume it.

I’m not disagreeing with you. Just stating what I believe would happen. And you are right, kids aren’t hungry enough to actually eat heathy food if that was the only option. But that wouldnt stop the masses from demanding free food that their kids wants to eat

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I work in an elementary school - not only does our cafeteria not have the equipment to cook/serve freshly cooked lunches, we have just two cafeteria staff who both work part-time. Reheating meals and prepping a few fresh sides (sliced cucumber, cubed melon, etc.) is all they have time for.

I’d love to see simpler, healthier choices kids would actually like, but this is sadly so far down the district’s list of priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

+1
Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

Because parents will complain. There are a large number of parents that feed their kids this stuff, but would rather school did it for free. Also add in, there are very few kids actually without any food/starving at home.

Schools serve the sugar crap because that is what kids (and parents) want and what they typically eat. It gets taken and eaten by most of the kids. Then the school admins can pat themselves on the back because they are feeding kids. If they moved to heathy, simple options only (white milk, cheerios, bananas, raisins) it would mostly get passed over. Because the kids aren’t truly hungry, they just want sugar and will eat it if offered. We have an obesity epidemic; especially among the low income population.

So let them complain! JFC. Some of us complain to MCPS about all the sugar laden breakfasts and we are just ignored. They could take the same approach who complain that their kids no longer get cinnamon buns for free.

But the difference is the cinnamon buns get eaten. If they served white milk and plain cherrios, it would be largely passed over by most kids. So much so that the schools would eventually come to the conclusion it wasn’t needed and they would drop serving breakfast. Then parents would start to complain (again) and they would bring back sugar crap

If kids don’t eat it then they are not actually hungry. It has a bland taste - they can offer 1 sugar packet with it to help sweeten slightly - and is not a weird texture. So if kids are hungry they would consume it.

Ok pp is talking about Cheerios but there’s lots of other cereals. My kids love raisin bran. Even Honey Nut Cheerios is better than the chocolate muffins they get served for breakfast. None of my kids have chocolate or strawberry milk until they started school. No daycare would ever serve that stuff!

Why are daycares so much better at feeding kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the utter garbage children shove in their face everyday at school:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1c5733t/the_school_lunch_system_is_disgraceful/


Meanwhile, look what they do in actual civilized countries:

I dispute your lazy premise

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Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school - not only does our cafeteria not have the equipment to cook/serve freshly cooked lunches, we have just two cafeteria staff who both work part-time. Reheating meals and prepping a few fresh sides (sliced cucumber, cubed melon, etc.) is all they have time for.

I’d love to see simpler, healthier choices kids would actually like, but this is sadly so far down the district’s list of priorities.

I get too stuff like this at my work too and it’s fake. The district has thousands of people in admin jobs above schools. No reason to think this couldn’t be a priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the utter garbage children shove in their face everyday at school:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1c5733t/the_school_lunch_system_is_disgraceful/


Meanwhile, look what they do in actual civilized countries:

I dispute your lazy premise

So far, you’re not doing a very good job.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

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Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

Because parents will complain. There are a large number of parents that feed their kids this stuff, but would rather school did it for free. Also add in, there are very few kids actually without any food/starving at home.

Schools serve the sugar crap because that is what kids (and parents) want and what they typically eat. It gets taken and eaten by most of the kids. Then the school admins can pat themselves on the back because they are feeding kids. If they moved to heathy, simple options only (white milk, cheerios, bananas, raisins) it would mostly get passed over. Because the kids aren’t truly hungry, they just want sugar and will eat it if offered. We have an obesity epidemic; especially among the low income population.

So let them complain! JFC. Some of us complain to MCPS about all the sugar laden breakfasts and we are just ignored. They could take the same approach who complain that their kids no longer get cinnamon buns for free.

But the difference is the cinnamon buns get eaten. If they served white milk and plain cherrios, it would be largely passed over by most kids. So much so that the schools would eventually come to the conclusion it wasn’t needed and they would drop serving breakfast. Then parents would start to complain (again) and they would bring back sugar crap

If kids don’t eat it then they are not actually hungry. It has a bland taste - they can offer 1 sugar packet with it to help sweeten slightly - and is not a weird texture. So if kids are hungry they would consume it.

Ok pp is talking about Cheerios but there’s lots of other cereals. My kids love raisin bran. Even Honey Nut Cheerios is better than the chocolate muffins they get served for breakfast. None of my kids have chocolate or strawberry milk until they started school. No daycare would ever serve that stuff!

Why are daycares so much better at feeding kids?

Agree- they can offer a few sensible cereal choices if cheerios are so revolting to some kids. If they reject plain milk, then so be it. We have a major problem if kids will only drink strawberry or chocolate milk. Similarly, my kids had never even had it before they started school.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

+1
Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

Because parents will complain. There are a large number of parents that feed their kids this stuff, but would rather school did it for free. Also add in, there are very few kids actually without any food/starving at home.

Schools serve the sugar crap because that is what kids (and parents) want and what they typically eat. It gets taken and eaten by most of the kids. Then the school admins can pat themselves on the back because they are feeding kids. If they moved to heathy, simple options only (white milk, cheerios, bananas, raisins) it would mostly get passed over. Because the kids aren’t truly hungry, they just want sugar and will eat it if offered. We have an obesity epidemic; especially among the low income population.

So let them complain! JFC. Some of us complain to MCPS about all the sugar laden breakfasts and we are just ignored. They could take the same approach who complain that their kids no longer get cinnamon buns for free.

But the difference is the cinnamon buns get eaten. If they served white milk and plain cherrios, it would be largely passed over by most kids. So much so that the schools would eventually come to the conclusion it wasn’t needed and they would drop serving breakfast. Then parents would start to complain (again) and they would bring back sugar crap

If kids don’t eat it then they are not actually hungry. It has a bland taste - they can offer 1 sugar packet with it to help sweeten slightly - and is not a weird texture. So if kids are hungry they would consume it.

Ok pp is talking about Cheerios but there’s lots of other cereals. My kids love raisin bran. Even Honey Nut Cheerios is better than the chocolate muffins they get served for breakfast. None of my kids have chocolate or strawberry milk until they started school. No daycare would ever serve that stuff!

Why are daycares so much better at feeding kids?

Because they’re privately run. The public Pre-Ks largely serve the same crap as ES. Im not entirely joking when I say that I swear one of the main purposes of public school is to get the kids hooked on junk food and screens.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

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Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

I’m the PP that said the students had Cheerios and white milk. The other “sugar fest” options weren’t options. They could get the cereal, milk and fruit or I think a bagel and yogurt.

Someone mentioned that the schools could provide other cereals. They do. They have blueberry Chex and cinnamon Chex.

https://fcps.nutrislice.com/menu/annandale-terrace-elementary/es-breakfast/2024-04-22

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

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Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

I’m the PP that said the students had Cheerios and white milk. The other “sugar fest” options weren’t options. They could get the cereal, milk and fruit or I think a bagel and yogurt.

Someone mentioned that the schools could provide other cereals. They do. They have blueberry Chex and cinnamon Chex.

https://fcps.nutrislice.com/menu/annandale-terrace-elementary/es-breakfast/2024-04-22

Sounds like you are in Fairfax? You realize not all districts are providing the exact same breakfast right? At first glance I prefer what FCPS is serving. This is what MCPS is serving (breakfast on the top of the page):

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/food-and-nutrition/menus/sy-2324/april/es/5789.24ggk_es_menu_april.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:All of you saying it's too expensive- you should see the lovely meals my preschoolers eat in preschool compared to the dog food given to my elementary schooler. And all the preschoolers eat it and enjoy it.

Obviously the preschoolers meals are mass produced, but can you imagine the outrage if my 2 year old was served a honey bun? I think the 2 year old teachers would have a heart attack if they had to put up with the behavior of 2 year olds who all ate a honey bun. They'd be bouncing off the walls. My 2nd grader routinely eats honey buns for breakfast, donuts, etc. In our school everyone gets a free lunch, so everyone is served "breakfast" as they walk through the door in the morning. Even the juice has got to go. My preschoolers are never served juice or chocolate milk. They get milk or water, just like parents serve at home.

+1
Breakfast is the worst. Why don’t they just serve cheerios and white milk??

This is one literally one of the breakfast options that students (at least in the ES) have in FCPS.

I think though people are saying they should *just* have cheerios and white milk and fruit and not tempt kids with muffins (aka cupcakes) and poptarts and chocolate milk and french toast sticks etc. I kind of agree with that.

Yes. Exactly. Why in the world is a sugar fest an option to pick when there is a healthy and good tasting option that is also cheap to offer them.

I’m the PP that said the students had Cheerios and white milk. The other “sugar fest” options weren’t options. They could get the cereal, milk and fruit or I think a bagel and yogurt.

Someone mentioned that the schools could provide other cereals. They do. They have blueberry Chex and cinnamon Chex.

https://fcps.nutrislice.com/menu/annandale-terrace-elementary/es-breakfast/2024-04-22

Sounds like you are in Fairfax? You realize not all districts are providing the exact same breakfast right? At first glance I prefer what FCPS is serving. This is what MCPS is serving (breakfast on the top of the page):

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/food-and-nutrition/menus/sy-2324/april/es/5789.24ggk_es_menu_april.pdf

Yes. I did mention that in an earlier post and subsequent quotes of the post said they shouldn’t have other, more sugary options. I was just pointing out that they don’t seem to have those options.

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I also work at an ES. I’m shocked how many middle class and upper MC families let their kids buy breakfast or lunch! It is so gross. My kids always packed and always will.

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My DC went to a school that did offer a sunbutter jelly, fruit, and milk option every day. It was great and DC was happy to eat it, and I was happy to not have to pack. Now DCs go to a Title 1 school that has a sharing table, and DCs report that they have 2-3 servings of fruit/veggies a day at lunch. They can take school milk (white only in DCPS) and sharing table foods even when they pack, so I haven’t had to send an apple in years. They pack about half the time, depending on the menu, but sometimes the school doesn’t stick to the published menu so they end up loading up on fruit.

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Anonymous wrote:I also work at an ES. I’m shocked how many middle class and upper MC families let their kids buy breakfast or lunch! It is so gross. My kids always packed and always will.

Many schools have move to free breakfast for all, and lunch too, so as to not stigmatize free meals. So even if your child eats a heathy breakfast at home, they are still handed a chocolate milk and pop tart when they hit the door.