Future of Education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is parenting and norms have changed and they aren’t particularly suitable for the classroom. Technology has destroyed some children, so that they are no longer functional. I don’t know what the solution is. Teachers are leaving private schools at higher rates than before as well so I don’t really think that’s an option that will solve things via vouchers

I’m seeing the opposite. Teachers seem to be fleeing public in order to land positions in privates. Private schools are offering stronger consequences for behaviors in the classroom, more autonomy with curricula, strong administrations, and better working conditions overall. My private is filled with former public-school teachers.

I know a lot of private school teachers leaving as well...I don't know. I think a lot of teachers are done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

It’s more the parents who are in a position to change things.

But listen. The majority of school systems don’t have a lot of high or even moderate earning but checked out white collar parents, who could just get a little more involved or come down a little harder on their kids behavior and then everything would be wonderful. The majority of school systems have overworked and overwhelmed parents at best, and absent or abusive parents at worst. Never mind the language barriers. Kids are being essentially raised by the streets in many cases. So I guess you can say, oh it really is the parents in many cases. But you absolutely can’t rely on the parents to improve the quality of the schools and the quality of the students. It isn’t happening. But those kids still deserve a good education so they hopefully don’t end up like their dead beat parents.

This is an honest statement. My kid attends a Title 1 and is having a great experience with great teachers. My kid also has two committed and loving parents, a safe and happy home, food, access to healthcare, no drug use or guns in the home, etc.

I mean, if you could waive a magic wand and make sure all kids had that, it would be awesome. But it will never happen, and there is no amount of "you need to shape up and be responsible" that will make it happen. And you can't police/jail parents into it because then you're just adding to the discord and trauma in the home, right? The parents might deserve it in some cases but it doesn't actually help the kids.

One thing I've realized is how many of the kids at our school have parents who are straight up too young and immature to be good parents. We know some parents who are a total mess, but we also know the grandparents (who do a lot of the parenting) and they are respectable middle class people. The parents had kids as teenagers, sometimes multiple kids with multiple people, they are simply never going to be functional parents. It was over before it began.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you really, truly think that parents are at the solution, I highly recommend supporting very robust sex education programs, and freely available birth control and abortion.

Very true!

[Anonymous]

Less pay less respect more administrative fraud higher class sizes less teachers more school crime worse climate more extraction of our tax funds to Pearson type companies ie more corruption

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are miserable. Schools are full of problems. What could be done to revamp public education? How about privatizing education and giving people vouchers for online schools, homeschools, or privates? Could there be some radical change in the next century or will the system remain as is? Thoughts or ideas?

Teachers continue to flee FCPS by the hundreds every year. Their exodus shows no sign of slowing in 2024.

The FCPS as a system is slipping and failing more and more each year, sadly. Same with Loudoun county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

+1 million

Fck the Republicans and their vouchers.

They want public schools to decline so they can push to have taxpayers subsidize their kids’ private school education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are miserable. Schools are full of problems. What could be done to revamp public education? How about privatizing education and giving people vouchers for online schools, homeschools, or privates? Could there be some radical change in the next century or will the system remain as is? Thoughts or ideas?

Teachers continue to flee FCPS by the hundreds every year. Their exodus shows no sign of slowing in 2024.

The FCPS as a system is slipping and failing more and more each year, sadly. Same with Loudoun county.

We should pay teachers more, especially with rising COL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

It’s more the parents who are in a position to change things.

But listen. The majority of school systems don’t have a lot of high or even moderate earning but checked out white collar parents, who could just get a little more involved or come down a little harder on their kids behavior and then everything would be wonderful. The majority of school systems have overworked and overwhelmed parents at best, and absent or abusive parents at worst. Never mind the language barriers. Kids are being essentially raised by the streets in many cases. So I guess you can say, oh it really is the parents in many cases. But you absolutely can’t rely on the parents to improve the quality of the schools and the quality of the students. It isn’t happening. But those kids still deserve a good education so they hopefully don’t end up like their dead beat parents.

This is an honest statement. My kid attends a Title 1 and is having a great experience with great teachers. My kid also has two committed and loving parents, a safe and happy home, food, access to healthcare, no drug use or guns in the home, etc.

I mean, if you could waive a magic wand and make sure all kids had that, it would be awesome. But it will never happen, and there is no amount of "you need to shape up and be responsible" that will make it happen. And you can't police/jail parents into it because then you're just adding to the discord and trauma in the home, right? The parents might deserve it in some cases but it doesn't actually help the kids.

One thing I've realized is how many of the kids at our school have parents who are straight up too young and immature to be good parents. We know some parents who are a total mess, but we also know the grandparents (who do a lot of the parenting) and they are respectable middle class people. The parents had kids as teenagers, sometimes multiple kids with multiple people, they are simply never going to be functional parents. It was over before it began.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you really, truly think that parents are at the solution, I highly recommend supporting very robust sex education programs, and freely available birth control and abortion.

It is not a very big step from the bolded to the eugenics that was behind Planned Parenthood to begin with, only you're doing it by some sort of fuzzy maturity level/classism instead of race.

Maybe kids who aren't going to be great students and don't have great parents still deserve a shot at...being alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

It’s more the parents who are in a position to change things.

But listen. The majority of school systems don’t have a lot of high or even moderate earning but checked out white collar parents, who could just get a little more involved or come down a little harder on their kids behavior and then everything would be wonderful. The majority of school systems have overworked and overwhelmed parents at best, and absent or abusive parents at worst. Never mind the language barriers. Kids are being essentially raised by the streets in many cases. So I guess you can say, oh it really is the parents in many cases. But you absolutely can’t rely on the parents to improve the quality of the schools and the quality of the students. It isn’t happening. But those kids still deserve a good education so they hopefully don’t end up like their dead beat parents.

This is an honest statement. My kid attends a Title 1 and is having a great experience with great teachers. My kid also has two committed and loving parents, a safe and happy home, food, access to healthcare, no drug use or guns in the home, etc.

I mean, if you could waive a magic wand and make sure all kids had that, it would be awesome. But it will never happen, and there is no amount of "you need to shape up and be responsible" that will make it happen. And you can't police/jail parents into it because then you're just adding to the discord and trauma in the home, right? The parents might deserve it in some cases but it doesn't actually help the kids.

One thing I've realized is how many of the kids at our school have parents who are straight up too young and immature to be good parents. We know some parents who are a total mess, but we also know the grandparents (who do a lot of the parenting) and they are respectable middle class people. The parents had kids as teenagers, sometimes multiple kids with multiple people, they are simply never going to be functional parents. It was over before it began.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you really, truly think that parents are at the solution, I highly recommend supporting very robust sex education programs, and freely available birth control and abortion.

I’m a secondary teacher and this is correct.

Yes! Eugenics is the answer. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

It’s more the parents who are in a position to change things.

But listen. The majority of school systems don’t have a lot of high or even moderate earning but checked out white collar parents, who could just get a little more involved or come down a little harder on their kids behavior and then everything would be wonderful. The majority of school systems have overworked and overwhelmed parents at best, and absent or abusive parents at worst. Never mind the language barriers. Kids are being essentially raised by the streets in many cases. So I guess you can say, oh it really is the parents in many cases. But you absolutely can’t rely on the parents to improve the quality of the schools and the quality of the students. It isn’t happening. But those kids still deserve a good education so they hopefully don’t end up like their dead beat parents.

This is an honest statement. My kid attends a Title 1 and is having a great experience with great teachers. My kid also has two committed and loving parents, a safe and happy home, food, access to healthcare, no drug use or guns in the home, etc.

I mean, if you could waive a magic wand and make sure all kids had that, it would be awesome. But it will never happen, and there is no amount of "you need to shape up and be responsible" that will make it happen. And you can't police/jail parents into it because then you're just adding to the discord and trauma in the home, right? The parents might deserve it in some cases but it doesn't actually help the kids.

One thing I've realized is how many of the kids at our school have parents who are straight up too young and immature to be good parents. We know some parents who are a total mess, but we also know the grandparents (who do a lot of the parenting) and they are respectable middle class people. The parents had kids as teenagers, sometimes multiple kids with multiple people, they are simply never going to be functional parents. It was over before it began.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you really, truly think that parents are at the solution, I highly recommend supporting very robust sex education programs, and freely available birth control and abortion.

It is not a very big step from the bolded to the eugenics that was behind Planned Parenthood to begin with, only you're doing it by some sort of fuzzy maturity level/classism instead of race.

Maybe kids who aren't going to be great students and don't have great parents still deserve a shot at...being alive.

Bravo. Well said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more. Better pay = better teachers.

It’s more the parents who are in a position to change things.

But listen. The majority of school systems don’t have a lot of high or even moderate earning but checked out white collar parents, who could just get a little more involved or come down a little harder on their kids behavior and then everything would be wonderful. The majority of school systems have overworked and overwhelmed parents at best, and absent or abusive parents at worst. Never mind the language barriers. Kids are being essentially raised by the streets in many cases. So I guess you can say, oh it really is the parents in many cases. But you absolutely can’t rely on the parents to improve the quality of the schools and the quality of the students. It isn’t happening. But those kids still deserve a good education so they hopefully don’t end up like their dead beat parents.

This is an honest statement. My kid attends a Title 1 and is having a great experience with great teachers. My kid also has two committed and loving parents, a safe and happy home, food, access to healthcare, no drug use or guns in the home, etc.

I mean, if you could waive a magic wand and make sure all kids had that, it would be awesome. But it will never happen, and there is no amount of "you need to shape up and be responsible" that will make it happen. And you can't police/jail parents into it because then you're just adding to the discord and trauma in the home, right? The parents might deserve it in some cases but it doesn't actually help the kids.

One thing I've realized is how many of the kids at our school have parents who are straight up too young and immature to be good parents. We know some parents who are a total mess, but we also know the grandparents (who do a lot of the parenting) and they are respectable middle class people. The parents had kids as teenagers, sometimes multiple kids with multiple people, they are simply never going to be functional parents. It was over before it began.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you really, truly think that parents are at the solution, I highly recommend supporting very robust sex education programs, and freely available birth control and abortion.

It is not a very big step from the bolded to the eugenics that was behind Planned Parenthood to begin with, only you're doing it by some sort of fuzzy maturity level/classism instead of race.

Maybe kids who aren't going to be great students and don't have great parents still deserve a shot at...being alive.

Offering the ability and knowledge to control one’s fertility is not eugenics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are miserable. Schools are full of problems. What could be done to revamp public education? How about privatizing education and giving people vouchers for online schools, homeschools, or privates? Could there be some radical change in the next century or will the system remain as is? Thoughts or ideas?

Sure, if the Republicans have their way, funneling tax dollars to private, catholic schools

Public education is supposed to be the great equalizer, but has been starved and choked by vouchers and lack of funding for decades

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Class size matters. Public per pupil funding does not support small class sizes. Charters and vouchers fail for the same reason

There are very large classes in China, Korea and other Asian countries. It doesn’t seem to affect their education!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class size matters. Public per pupil funding does not support small class sizes. Charters and vouchers fail for the same reason

There are very large classes in China, Korea and other Asian countries. It doesn’t seem to affect their education!

China and Japan, I mean. Their average class sizes are far greater than in the U.S. but their students are out performing ours on most measures!

I’m not sure why Americans are so focused on small class size as an indicator of education quality.

[Anonymous]

Those are collective societies. They raise kids to bow to authority so a teacher has no discipline issues. It’s also sink or swim there. If the kid doesn’t understand, the teacher isn’t going to stop or slow down lessons for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher here are my thoughts:

-Nationwide ban on cell phones in schools. It is seriously damaging student learning and engagement. No teacher activity can realistically compete with a curated professionally design addictive app. Students have little desire to even interact with each other in class now.
-Require parent participation. We can’t raise their kids for them.
-Hold students accountable. Students know exactly what they are doing and what the consequences are. Lowering standards achieves nothing but lowering student engagement.
-Lower the cost of college. Right now students are giving up hope and many don’t see the point of doing beyond the bare minimum.
-Increase career programs. However, they cannot be dumping grounds. Students must apply and already have the required skills.
-Fix immigration. A lot of our ESOL students have made it clear they are here just for jobs and only come to school due to court requirements.
-Expand virtual schools for disruptive students or students who don’t want to come to school. About 10% of my students barely come to school for various reasons. Yet it’s my fault if they don’t pass.

+1
Alternative schools and pulling out disruptive students/consequences needed.