Future of Education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is parenting and norms have changed and they aren’t particularly suitable for the classroom. Technology has destroyed some children, so that they are no longer functional. I don’t know what the solution is. Teachers are leaving private schools at higher rates than before as well so I don’t really think that’s an option that will solve things via vouchers

I’m seeing the opposite. Teachers seem to be fleeing public in order to land positions in privates. Private schools are offering stronger consequences for behaviors in the classroom, more autonomy with curricula, strong administrations, and better working conditions overall. My private is filled with former public-school teachers.

Ok, but why are there openings in privates, long held as hard to get? Private school teachers are leaving too. You see it on this board. Some people leave for private and it’s tolerable, for others it’s a stop on the way out of education.

Our last opening had over 30 applicants within a couple days of posting.

Teaching is still hard in private school, and we do lose teachers. The reason it is hard is different, however. We lose people to workload, not to discipline / disrespect AND workload.

[Anonymous]

We need extensive vouchers. This will turn the public school system into a cesspit/last resort for most- pay very high wages and/or hefty SL forgiveness to attract teachers to those jobs (they still won’t stay long).

We can’t keep sinking all the kids to accommodate the small minority of very problematic kids. Let the rest go and learn elsewhere, in an environment not dominated by these issues and ineffective public policies.

Universal preschool for all US citizens also. Try to catch these problems early.

No school funding for non U.S. citizens. Proof of citizenship required. We cannot afford all of these extra children and have bigger problems to address.

[Anonymous]

The MD Blueprint is a 2 billion dollar disaster and a 10+ year waste of time. Future is bleak in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

+1 to being able to pull out the disruptive kids.

+1 to better language support for ESOL kids

Also books and workbooks. Why do teachers need to hunt the internet and copy stuff off constantly now? Books and workbooks would save that time.

And finally it seems like they get pulled a lot for other stuff. School needs rethought so that routine things get taken off their plates. That is where the money need to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 to being able to pull out the disruptive kids.

+1 to better language support for ESOL kids

Also books and workbooks. Why do teachers need to hunt the internet and copy stuff off constantly now? Books and workbooks would save that time.

And finally it seems like they get pulled a lot for other stuff. School needs rethought so that routine things get taken off their plates. That is where the money need to go.

+1 using more workbooks and predesigned curricula, cutting out CLT‘s eliminating committees and cutting staff meetings so once a quarter could give back teachers so many hours

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are miserable. Schools are full of problems. What could be done to revamp public education? How about privatizing education and giving people vouchers for online schools, homeschools, or privates? Could there be some radical change in the next century or will the system remain as is? Thoughts or ideas?

That's been the goal all along. Some hoped to make schools so miserable that they could get vouchers and not be on the hook for educating the poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The MD Blueprint is a 2 billion dollar disaster and a 10+ year waste of time. Future is bleak in Maryland.

Seems like most of these fads never work out. Maybe they can accept that education is fairly basic and older methods work fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need extensive vouchers. This will turn the public school system into a cesspit/last resort for most- pay very high wages and/or hefty SL forgiveness to attract teachers to those jobs (they still won’t stay long).

We can’t keep sinking all the kids to accommodate the small minority of very problematic kids. Let the rest go and learn elsewhere, in an environment not dominated by these issues and ineffective public policies.

Universal preschool for all US citizens also. Try to catch these problems early.

No school funding for non U.S. citizens. Proof of citizenship required. We cannot afford all of these extra children and have bigger problems to address.

Research is fairly clear that Quebec's implementation of universal preschool has had bad effects on students that were part of it. This is also true of other attempts, such as Tennessee's. But I am totally confident that the US federal government -- which cannot even stand up a working website to handle financial aid requests for colleges when given three years -- will do a bang-up job of implementation.

[Anonymous]

Focus on the kids that want to learn, remove the kids that don't want to learn and put them in an environment (reform school) where they can shape up. If that doesn't work warehouse them somewhere.

Provide the resources for those that want to learn to move at a pace that suits their capabilities. Don't artificially hold kids back. If they are ready for Algebra in 5th grade, give them that opportunity.

[Anonymous]

College for all is a myth, and sinking prospects for everyone.

We need to refocus on career pathways. Start specializing "most" kids in high school, setting them on a path to in-demand careers like nursing, manufacturing, tech, etc. Then, rather than sending those kids to four year LACs, they seamlessly move into the secondary education that will actually provide them with a career on the other side.

There is lots of research on this, lots of pathways programs out there already tailored to specific regions. In west Texas for example, its large vet techs, nursing, wind farms drone operation, oil and gas pipelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College for all is a myth, and sinking prospects for everyone.

We need to refocus on career pathways. Start specializing "most" kids in high school, setting them on a path to in-demand careers like nursing, manufacturing, tech, etc. Then, rather than sending those kids to four year LACs, they seamlessly move into the secondary education that will actually provide them with a career on the other side.

There is lots of research on this, lots of pathways programs out there already tailored to specific regions. In west Texas for example, its large vet techs, nursing, wind farms drone operation, oil and gas pipelines.

Nursing requires a college degree, vet tech is not a career and being a roughneck is not exactly a long term career

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Focus on the kids that want to learn, remove the kids that don't want to learn and put them in an environment (reform school) where they can shape up. If that doesn't work warehouse them somewhere.

Provide the resources for those that want to learn to move at a pace that suits their capabilities. Don't artificially hold kids back. If they are ready for Algebra in 5th grade, give them that opportunity.

+1

[Anonymous]

A large animal vet tech is a career if you are surrounded by cattle ranches and they are in demand. It saves a nurse hundreds of thousands in student loans if they understand and start pursuing a career before settling on nursing after a four-year sociology degree. Being a welder on thousands of miles of pipeline IS, in fact, a lifetime career. Maybe not for your kids. But it is for a lot of kids. In another area, it might be shipping and logistics, data centers, etc.

The point is, a LOT of the jobs that kids today are pursuing do NOT require a four-year degree. If we can hook them with the prospect of making 100K a few years out of high school in a low cost area, save them a lifetime of debt, and help them "grow up" faster, its better for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need extensive vouchers. This will turn the public school system into a cesspit/last resort for most- pay very high wages and/or hefty SL forgiveness to attract teachers to those jobs (they still won’t stay long).

We can’t keep sinking all the kids to accommodate the small minority of very problematic kids. Let the rest go and learn elsewhere, in an environment not dominated by these issues and ineffective public policies.

Universal preschool for all US citizens also. Try to catch these problems early.

No school funding for non U.S. citizens. Proof of citizenship required. We cannot afford all of these extra children and have bigger problems to address.

Research is fairly clear that Quebec's implementation of universal preschool has had bad effects on students that were part of it. This is also true of other attempts, such as Tennessee's. But I am totally confident that the US federal government -- which cannot even stand up a working website to handle financial aid requests for colleges when given three years -- will do a bang-up job of implementation.

+1. No universal preschool. I mean, it even hurts the kids you'd think it helps most - the underprivileged - compared to their peers.

But 100% yes to vouchers. Though I will say we need more privates before that would do anything other than make the intense competition for seats at independent schools even more intense. Getting building space in the DMV to host a school is expensive. Maybe once the public schools start shrinking as people flee, the counties can rent those buildings back to privates and make money to subsidize the vouchers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A large animal vet tech is a career if you are surrounded by cattle ranches and they are in demand. It saves a nurse hundreds of thousands in student loans if they understand and start pursuing a career before settling on nursing after a four-year sociology degree. Being a welder on thousands of miles of pipeline IS, in fact, a lifetime career. Maybe not for your kids. But it is for a lot of kids. In another area, it might be shipping and logistics, data centers, etc.

The point is, a LOT of the jobs that kids today are pursuing do NOT require a four-year degree. If we can hook them with the prospect of making 100K a few years out of high school in a low cost area, save them a lifetime of debt, and help them "grow up" faster, its better for everyone.

Totally agree with this. Germany has implemented an intensive tracking system to good effect.