Why not? Please explain. People compare DC to states all the time… |
I am a DCPS teacher at the upper levels and I do mainly paper assignments. The kids all say they prefer them. And they learn better. |
You really need this explained? It’s fair to compare DCPS which is just a city to all of Maryland and not Baltimore? It’s fair to compare DCPS to all of Michigan but not Detroit? What other explanation do you need? |
I think you won't explain it because, when you do, you'll sound incredibly racist. |
DC is one of the wealthiest, most well educated cities in the entire world, with schools that are lavishly funded compared to most other places. You think we should be compared to...Detroit? |
I think cities should be compared to other cities. Fairly simple concept, no? DC's median income is $65,000/year. Yes, it is considered one of the 10 highest median income cities in the US...so fine, compare us to San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Boston, Nashvill, NYC public schools. Very strange how this concept eludes you. |
I have no clue what you are talking about. I am literally making the point that you compare cities against other cities. I don't care which you want to compare. You don't compare a city against an entire state. I picked a state and it's largest city. Not sure why you think it doesn't make sense to compare DC and Baltimore. |
Oh and BTW: The UPSFF, which will now be at a per-pupil foundation of $14,668, is the primary funding source for DC’s public and public charter schools and allocates funds to each student in DC based on their individual needs, regardless of the school they attend. Detroit Public Schools Community District spends $16,742 per student each year. |
This. Also, it's not the overall wealth of the city that is going to dictate the quality of its public schools. Cities tend to have more individual people living under the poverty line than suburbs, small towns, and rural areas. And all of these kids are in public schools. DC has many wealthy people, but what percent of their kids go to public schools? It is harder to educated kids in poverty. Test scores correlate very closely with parental incomes and education level. So cities often have lower mean and median test scores in public schools because the percent of public school students living in poverty in a city will be much higher than the percent of student state wide living in poverty. The public school test scores for the state of Maryland will include all the kids living in poverty in Baltimore City, yes. But it will also include all the kids in the suburbs with well-educated, high income parents, of which there are far more state wide. If you look at scores in DCPS on a school-by-school basis, you will find that the schools with high at risk numbers have the lowest test scores (and there are many of these schools), and the schools with low at risk numbers have the highest test scores (there are far fewer of these schools). The wealthiest students in DC mostly attend private schools, plus charters attract a disproportionate number of UMC and MC families as compared to poor families. Thus DCPS is left to educate the city's neediest children, who receive the least support at home, have the least educated parents, and often have major disruptions such as housing insecurity, food insecurity, parents who are unemployed, in prison, or have substance abuse issues. You will find the same issues in most major cities in the country. Which is why it makes no sense to compare DCPS with statewide averages for test scores and school performance, and the proper comparison is other major city systems. |
Agree with you broadly but this part is not accurate: "charters attract a disproportionate number of UMC and MC families as compared to poor families." We can look at both the at-risk proportion and the racial demographics. This is a few years old but shows higher at-risk numbers for charters: https://dcpcsb.org/dc-public-charter-schools-serve-higher-percentages-risk-students-and-high-needs-special-education. Similarly, the proportion of white kids in DCPS is substantially higher than in charters: https://myteacher.dc.gov/page/about-dc-public-education#:~:text=Charter%20Students%3A,6%25%20of%20students%20are%20White What's happening is that UMC kids are much more likely to attend their IB school, and kids in Ward 7 and 8 especially are much more likely to attend charters. It can seem like UMC kids are more likely to attend charters if you look at kids in the same neighborhood, particularly for middle school and high school. But a lot more of the UMC kids are in Ward 3, which has high IB attendance rates. |
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again - love how everyone is giving fuel to Russia to create fights in the US.
Pour gasoline on the the littlest issue and watch everyone burn |
| Honestly - the openly race-based efforts for the current DME boundary study process oprn DCPS to a real legal challenge. |
this again? lol. so 2019. not everyone who disagrees with you is a “russian bot.” |
That's crazy. DC's answer to everything is to lower standards. |
And yet Mississippi has more poverty, lower parental education levels and spends less than half as much as we do on public education and *still* kicks our ass? |