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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

What high schools track other than math?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

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I know a kid who goes there (not my kid). The impression this kid relays -- without ever really saying as much -- is that it's a fairly competitive and cliquish place, where it's hard to get by without a good friend group.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

These things are trade-offs for being a much smaller school than the suburban high schools or JR. Some kids and parents value the experience of being in a 600-student school vs a 2500-student school.

I think some teachers are "just clocking it in" but most are good.

Can't disagree with you on the other points.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

Compared to *private* school students, Walls kids are more likely to have limits on their ability to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

Walls (and BASIS) are full of many truly middle class families (we are one and we know our kids friends, etc) who may be less inclined to pay $90k per year. That's what the PP is talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

Compared to *private* school students, Walls kids are more likely to have limits on their ability to pay.

No one is making that comparison. But it is a fair comparison to the schools above.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

I’m so angry that the crown jewel of dcps is so mediocre. I wish there was more for my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

Compared to *private* school students, Walls kids are more likely to have limits on their ability to pay.

No one is making that comparison. But it is a fair comparison to the schools above.

The comparison is made by school admissions officers. Geography ia one of the ways they slice and dice.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for the kids/families who didn’t get an interview. I also feel for them to sit here and read the replies from those who DID get an interview and act like it’s because of something they did (versus something others didn’t do) and not luck of the draw in the motivation level of their kid’s teacher (I’m looking at you, Pentagon poster). It’s easy to think the system isn’t broken when it’s worked on your favor. Have some empathy for those for whom the system didn’t work.

Kids shouldn’t take it personally. Even if you got everything in, it’s not based on the best and brightest. It’s basically a lottery.

Lots of kids who should have gotten an interview didn’t. Move on, it’s Walls lost.

My kid has moved on (and is thriving at a different application HS). I'm still mad though. Kid absolutely busted their 🍑 to get that 4.0 in 7th grade, and then the people who were supposed to value that couldn't be bothered to notice. And now there's a younger sibling in the picture who is about to run this same gauntlet.

It's easy for each of us to atomize, to say my kid deserves better, and then solve for that kid. Harder for all to say with one voice that all our kids deserve better when Walls, which knows damn well how to fix this, DGAF.

We have also moved on but I have a very different outlook- I feel like it was such a blessing that we didn’t get in. Knowing what I know now, I would not have any of my younger children apply to Walls.

Why?

Different poster- way stronger academics at other schools. Good grades and leadership not prioritized. Gaming the system seems to work in the short term which allows school in general to decline.

How do you assess that academics are stronger at other schools if your kid is only at one of them?

(For what it's worth, my DC was lucky enough to win the Walls semi-lottery and is having a good experience.)

DP one area you can look at is tracking and advance course offerings. Also for the higher level classes is there objective criteria for entrance or can anyone take it.

As to experiences, how do you k ow your kid could have had a better overall experience at other schools? One area is EC and sports. Another is facilities

My question is specific, not general. The PP said other schools "have way stronger academics" than Walls. I'm skeptical of that claim but would be interested to hear her basis for it.

The poster before her said she wouldn't have her kids after the 1st one apply to Walls "knowing what she knows now," which is kind of a mysterious statement. Someone asked "why?" I'd be interested in hearing that answer too; I haven't observed anything to be ominous at Walls as that PP implied.

Walls has weaknesses -- randomness of admissions being one of them -- but overall it's great, imo.

I mean, I'm sure that person is just making internal justifications since her kid didn't get in. Very common.

Or maybe like me, that poster seems the weak academic offerings, lack of ECs and sports, combined with the low standards from dcps and went elsewhere? Sorry even the lowest rated suburban high school has better academics than Walls.

Reality is Walls is just a mediocre school. It’s nothing special. The good schools in the burbs and the magnets are so, so much better.

Most people know that what Walls has going for it is that there is a decent cohort of academically minded kids and less behavioral issues. That’s basically it.

Course offerings limited and doesn’t do compare to burbs, many teachers just clocking it in, principal is not good, facilities is poor, limited EC and sports.

This is supposed to be DC’s magnet school and it could potentially be so much better. Now OSSE is trying to destroy the one thing that is good about it is the top academic performance of the kids and student body.

Is this informed by having or having had a kid at Walls? Or general pontification?

Most teachers are engaged and happy to teach the cohort. Scaffolding like Writing center or SAT prep if you need it.

College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort.

Good group of kids who have fun together from what I have seen.

A ridiculous part of a kid’s life outcomes are explained by maternal education levels, so we’re all playing at the margins with this my suburban or independent school can beat up your Walls crap.

What?? What are you talking about with ability to afford when it comes to college outcomes? Walls has the lowest at risk in this city after Basis. It’s like 7%.

JR, Banneker, DCI all have significantly higher at risk, 2 times almost and higher so Walls absolutely should have better college outcomes than these 3 schools, much better.

Compared to *private* school students, Walls kids are more likely to have limits on their ability to pay.

No one is making that comparison. But it is a fair comparison to the schools above.

I was responding to a poster's bafflement at the following statement: College outcomes are good for a chunk of the group but may be masked by ability-to-afford for some of the cohort."

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Yes, there was a due date.

2025: February 10th
2024: February 9th
2023: February 8th
2016: February 9th
2014: February 10th

These were all the dates I could find in my email, but obviously around the same time each year and after the applications are due for students.

Makes sense, but when you (00:13) say you found those dates in your emails, do you recall who those emails were from or when they came?? DCPS? SWW? Banneker?

Basically I'm trying to understand which applicants were sent information about the Feb 9 deadline and by whom. DCPS has acknowledged that it sent an alert email with the recommendation deadline to some applicants but accidentally forgot to send it to others (!). So some families were told Feb 9 was a deadline, but others weren't. And even when DCPS realized they had made this mistake, instead of quickly contacting schools to let them know what had happened and contacting applicants to see if they might need extra days (I think it was after Feb 9 already), they just stayed quiet, said oops, and still penalized applicants for missing a deadline that had never been communicated to them.

In our case, we were never told about the Feb 9 deadline. We submitted Jan 29 and I was checking the application portal regularly and eventually realized one of the recommendations hadn’t come through because of an incomplete email address. Once I caught the issue, I corrected the email and notified everyone. Although this was still over a week before any interviews, it turned out that the recommender portal had already closed.

Meanwhile, a friend's child had also been missing a recommendation - just like us - , but in their case they had received an email from [e-mail] titled “Action Requested by Feb 9,” so she knew when it had to be in and made sure it was addressed by that date.

BTW, SWW's principal told us - incorrectly - that "regular reminders were sent to applicants." I don't know if she thought SWW was doing that or DCPS, but regardless, neither is true.

Anyway, at this point I'm just trying to spread the word about that DCPS email to all the other families they forgot to send it to. Those students were denied equal access to key information and can/should file a complaint with DCPS Office of Integrity.

It's probably too late for any of our kids this year, but for all the families next year and beyond, DCPS needs to be held accountable.


So...Any details you can share about where your Feb 9 deadline communication came from - and how previous years's deadline were communicated - would be really helpful.

On behalf of all applicants, thank you!

The bolded part seems to be an important piece of why you perhaps missed communications, no?

Sorry, just getting back to this, re: the bolded part of my post—No, This was the email they sent to families not teachers. Our personal email was always correct and DCPS successfully sent us other emails just not this one.

Basically, we just had the extreme bad luck to submit our application on Jan 29 at 8 pm. DCPS sent the [Action requested by Feb 9] email to applicants a few hours earlier and it never went it out again.
Kicking myself because I had actualy submitted our application a few days before that but then unsubmitted it to wait for a more up-to-date 8th grade report card (which I don’t know why they request since they don’t even look at) to upload. If I’d left it alone I would have gotten the information about Feb 9!

Essentially, it was about when you submitted. Which is crazy since application submission date should have no bearing on anything. Whether you submit Dec 15 or Feb 2 all applicants should have be given the same information about any deadlines.

And again, DCPS (up to the Chancellor office) knows this and has admitted to it privately. I suspect they just didn’t want to deal with the fall out of admitting it publicly. And I don’t know if they told the Selective HS’s either. I suspect not since SWW still seems to think we were being sent reminders.

MSDC also has no system to recognize or catch a bounce back email, so they just kept sending “reminder” emails to the same incomplete email address 🙁. They don’t cc families. Obviously i messed up with the email and not checking soon enough, and that will haunt me for a long time. But if DCPS had just sent the email about Feb 9 one more time, on Feb 3 when ALL the applications were in, I think my daughter would be in different situation right now and I’d be in a better state of mind.

Also, FWIW, I have a kid at Walls and I certainly agree it’s not perfect. But it’s good and would have been good for her and was where she wanted to go.