Will mcps get better post-McKnight?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should continue to improve by leaps and bounds if they continue her pro-equity legacy.

Many innovative techniques McKnight pioneered to help close the achievement gap from the top down will live on. For example, turning all the programs for advanced learners into lotteries, honors for all in HS, and eliminating reading groups for students at grade level or higher in ES have gone a long way to close that gap.

But that didn't happen....

You're saying all these programs like CES or MS magnets aren't lotteries?
That most HS honors classes aren't basically grade level classes with an honors label?
Or that they still offer reading groups to average students in ES?

These are all practices that started within the last 2-4 years and are now commonplace.

CES and MS Magnets are lotteries of all the qualified students. Not sure why this is a problem. Its competition.

Most Honors classes are not basically grade level classes. There are specific English classes for which this is true, but there are other Honors classes

Yes, ES still offer reading groups for average and even above average students. They may not be as frequent per week as for below average students, but they do still occur. And no this is not a practice that started in the last two years.

It’s a problem because this is an incorrect statement that is false

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should continue to improve by leaps and bounds if they continue her pro-equity legacy.

Many innovative techniques McKnight pioneered to help close the achievement gap from the top down will live on. For example, turning all the programs for advanced learners into lotteries, honors for all in HS, and eliminating reading groups for students at grade level or higher in ES have gone a long way to close that gap.

But that didn't happen....

You're saying all these programs like CES or MS magnets aren't lotteries?
That most HS honors classes aren't basically grade level classes with an honors label?
Or that they still offer reading groups to average students in ES?

These are all practices that started within the last 2-4 years and are now commonplace.

CES and MS Magnets are lotteries of all the qualified students. Not sure why this is a problem. Its competition.

Most Honors classes are not basically grade level classes. There are specific English classes for which this is true, but there are other Honors classes

Yes, ES still offer reading groups for average and even above average students. They may not be as frequent per week as for below average students, but they do still occur. And no this is not a practice that started in the last two years.

I learned a long time ago that what's actually happening is utterly irrelevant to the "MCPS has fallen" brigade. They've got a narrative and ignore anything that contradicts it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should continue to improve by leaps and bounds if they continue her pro-equity legacy.

Many innovative techniques McKnight pioneered to help close the achievement gap from the top down will live on. For example, turning all the programs for advanced learners into lotteries, honors for all in HS, and eliminating reading groups for students at grade level or higher in ES have gone a long way to close that gap.

But that didn't happen....

You're saying all these programs like CES or MS magnets aren't lotteries?
That most HS honors classes aren't basically grade level classes with an honors label?
Or that they still offer reading groups to average students in ES?

These are all practices that started within the last 2-4 years and are now commonplace.

CES and MS Magnets are lotteries of all the qualified students. Not sure why this is a problem. Its competition.

Most Honors classes are not basically grade level classes. There are specific English classes for which this is true, but there are other Honors classes

Yes, ES still offer reading groups for average and even above average students. They may not be as frequent per week as for below average students, but they do still occur. And no this is not a practice that started in the last two years.

It’s a problem because this is an incorrect statement that is false

CES and MS magnets are lotteirs of the top X% which can be as high as 40% at many schools. What this means is kids that actually need enrichment more often than not aren't selected and kids who aren't able are. The later drop out so the program doesn't accomplish what it was intended to do.

Most HS now have honors for all. There is no grade-level English at our high school. It's just honors with one or two AP courses thrown in the mix over four years. Kids who read at the ES level are also in honors.

The ES my youngest is at only has groups for students who are below grade level. Other students are given worksheets and independent study.

Every one of the PPs statements is accurate and aligns with my experience. Attempting to conceal these facts is trollish.

[Anonymous]

So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don’t think so, unfortunately.

There are just too many issues.

- Inept, bloated Central Office
- Poor staff morale
- BOE with a political agenda (that has proven not to be helpful to our students)
- Overcrowded, understaffed school buildings
- Changing demographics of the county as a whole

Not white enough anymore?

Nothing to do with color. Too many poor people.

[Anonymous]

They aren’t raising the bottom to close the gap, they are pushing down the top. We are seeing cuts at our middle school to enrichment for the kids don’t lottery into magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

Is there a more toxic person in MCPS???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should continue to improve by leaps and bounds if they continue her pro-equity legacy.

Many innovative techniques McKnight pioneered to help close the achievement gap from the top down will live on. For example, turning all the programs for advanced learners into lotteries, honors for all in HS, and eliminating reading groups for students at grade level or higher in ES have gone a long way to close that gap.

But that didn't happen....

You're saying all these programs like CES or MS magnets aren't lotteries?
That most HS honors classes aren't basically grade level classes with an honors label?
Or that they still offer reading groups to average students in ES?

These are all practices that started within the last 2-4 years and are now commonplace.

CES and MS Magnets are lotteries of all the qualified students. Not sure why this is a problem. Its competition.

Most Honors classes are not basically grade level classes. There are specific English classes for which this is true, but there are other Honors classes

Yes, ES still offer reading groups for average and even above average students. They may not be as frequent per week as for below average students, but they do still occur. And no this is not a practice that started in the last two years.

It’s a problem because this is an incorrect statement that is false

CES and MS magnets are lotteirs of the top X% which can be as high as 40% at many schools. What this means is kids that actually need enrichment more often than not aren't selected and kids who aren't able are. The later drop out so the program doesn't accomplish what it was intended to do.

Most HS now have honors for all. There is no grade-level English at our high school. It's just honors with one or two AP courses thrown in the mix over four years. Kids who read at the ES level are also in honors.

The ES my youngest is at only has groups for students who are below grade level. Other students are given worksheets and independent study.

Every one of the PPs statements is accurate and aligns with my experience. Attempting to conceal these facts is trollish.

If 40% of a school are high fliers, then it shouldn’t be difficult to create an ELC class for them in 4th/5th grade. The curriculum has been rolled out to all schools except the immersion schools(which may have it now).

I’ve not heard of widespread dropping out from the magnets at any level. Sure a few kids do for a variety of reasons, but not some large number that would suggest kids in them are not capable.

The problem at your youngest ES should be brought up with that ES.

Yes, there are individual school issues and there are system wide issues. But acting like it’s a dumpster fire where no kids are learning and all students will fail to be prepared for the next level is not real.

The key thing MCPS can work on holistically is writing. And like most school systems they need more adult bodies on the ground.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

Is there a more toxic person in MCPS???

More toxic than Moderately Moco?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

Is there a more toxic person in MCPS???

More toxic than Moderately Moco?

You have obviously never worked for Ms. Dempsey.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

Is there a more toxic person in MCPS???

Now that a couple of other people are gone, NO!

WTH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Too bad - an unforced error by Felder. Given how problematic Dempsey is, I would not support Felder to remain superintendent (not sure she wants to stay anyway). Whomever takes over will hopefully re-retire LD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Unbelievable

Is there a more toxic person in MCPS???

+100 percent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the idea that Dr. Felder was going to be a cleansing agent for MCPS's corrupt culture of promoting toxic leaders:

Too bad - an unforced error by Felder. Given how problematic Dempsey is, I would not support Felder to remain superintendent (not sure she wants to stay anyway). Whomever takes over will hopefully re-retire LD.

We're any of these allegations substantiated or is it just more unfounded gossip?