CDC updating guidelines to not require isolation once symptoms are mild and fever free

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:What does this mean for MCPS guidelines? Sounds like they will need to update...covid will be treated like any other illness.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/health/covid-isolation-change-cdc/index.html

We could have changed the policies for other major illnesses, as well as covid. But no, instead we're going to have the same bad policies for other major illnesses as for covid.

Why do you want kids to be deprived of education for a sniffly nose?

Why do you describe influenza and covid as "a sniffly nose"?

Because often covid is just that. Barely any symptoms...or even no symptoms. Influenza can also present as mild in someone who has been vaccinated.

And the person with the "sniffly nose" from covid goes to school or work and infects someone else with covid, who then gets major symptoms, because that's how infectious diseases work. They're diseases, which are infectious. So yes, I do want kids to be deprived of education while they are infectious with a disease that can make people seriously ill.

Most people don't know they're infectious. Simply out, it isn't possible to prevent people from ever getting sick.

Most people who are sick with an infectious disease don't know they're infectious? Wow.

Correct- they don't. They're either asymptomatic or presymptomatic. Are you just learning that now?

So it's ok for people who have symptoms and know they're infectious to go out and spread a disease because there are other people who may have the disease and be infectious without knowing it? Bonkers.

You're getting sick either way. That's life.

You need to stay home when sick. That’s life.

You're still going to get sick. Accept it.

Yes, and you still need to stay home when sick. Accept it.

You’d be better off accepting that people have been going to the grocery store with covid for 4 years and will continue to do so …

This! People have covid and don't even know it. People are getting exposed on a regular basis. Wear your mask if you are concerned.

My daughter had a little cold and tested negative twice. She went to school. Then later in the week she tested again and was positive. I am sure she exposed people!! But she wasn't sick enough to stay home. The teachers want kids to go to school...there has been too much learning loss trying to avoid virus that has little to no impact on children.

Again, wear a mask if you are concerned. That is the only way around it. You can also stay home. People are spreading germs and you cannot control it.

The appropriate response to "My child might have infected people with covid" is not "Oh well!" but rather "This is bad, actually; I regret it; I will try to do better next time." No different from if your child had infected people with influenza or hand foot and mouth or RSV or whooping cough or any other infectious disease.

As for "little to no impact on children" - that has long since been demonstrated to be false.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/long-covid-in-kids
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/new-research-raises-concerns-about-long-covid-in-children/

What do you mean by do better next time"? The PP tested her child, which is more than a lot of parents are doing, and was negative. The fact that she tested yet again despite the first negative test is even more beyond what most parents are doing. Would you seriously keep your kids home for a little cold if they tested negative? My kids' cold symptoms can last for a week of longer. They'd be considered truant at this point if they were home that many days for every cold.

Masking when sick is a responsible response. If your kid is too young to do that, it probably doesn't matter if they miss a week of school, they're not learning anything they can't catch up on.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

Outside in restaurants. I didn't add that part because I wanted the idiots to take me seriously.

We masked the entire time in Disney. Of course. I can't say I was all-in on going, but I was outvoted, we went, and the masks did work.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

You continue to live your life cautiously. I’m not stopping you. I’m not asking you to change your way of life. I choose to live my life normally.

For as long as you can. Which may not be as long as it might have been.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

Outside in restaurants. I didn't add that part because I wanted the idiots to take me seriously.

We masked the entire time in Disney. Of course. I can't say I was all-in on going, but I was outvoted, we went, and the masks did work.

How do they work? You didn’t get Covid?

I went to Disney too. I did not mask and I also didn’t get Covid. Neither did my family. We didn’t mask on the airplane and we ate inside restaurants. No Covid, imagine that!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

Mouthwash and nasal spray? lol. I hope you're not forgetting your essential oils! Maybe some antiparasitics, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

Mouthwash and nasal spray? lol. I hope you're not forgetting your essential oils! Maybe some antiparasitics, too.

The studies on enovid for reducing viral load seem pretty solid. But carry on. We do this because we have a social conscience and don't like getting sick. You are free to keep on being sick and infecting other people.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s gross and rude to send sick kids to school whether it’s COVID or something else.

Our carpool friends used to do this and we got sick so many times or had to take care of our sick kid as a result. Ugh.

DH and I both recently had COVID. Our kids never had any symptoms so we kept sending them to school. It’s entirely possible they were asymptomatic and positive. And there’s no way I’m keeping them home just because they might be harboring something. We keep them home when sick, but that isn’t some magical protection against germs since so much stuff is circulating before symptoms show up or while asymptomatic anyway.

Also while last winter was brutal and we got sick a lot, we just accepted it. This winter my kids are barely sick. The more they’re exposed to germs the less we all get sick — it was the immediate aftermath of COVID policies that had us coming down with everything that our bodies had no recent immunity to.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

Mouthwash and nasal spray? lol. I hope you're not forgetting your essential oils! Maybe some antiparasitics, too.

The studies on enovid for reducing viral load seem pretty solid. But carry on. We do this because we have a social conscience and don't like getting sick. You are free to keep on being sick and infecting other people.

Did you have the same social conscience before 2020? I’m sorry. I take that back. I’m sure you were sanctimonious about other things prior to 2020. Carry-on.

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A lot of people outside of this region have to be in person for their job to actually put food on the table. They cant afford to stay home when they are sick unless they are completely laid up and it's been that way since the beginning of time.

Another unspoken outcome of the pandemic is the amount of folks that have a lifetime of anxiety now about an illness that by in large is no worse than the flu and often much more mild. I still have people in my social media feeds not even indoors, 4 years after the start of 2 weeks to stop the spread. Decisions are not being made in science but straight up fear at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:What does this mean for MCPS guidelines? Sounds like they will need to update...covid will be treated like any other illness.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/health/covid-isolation-change-cdc/index.html

We could have changed the policies for other major illnesses, as well as covid. But no, instead we're going to have the same bad policies for other major illnesses as for covid.

Why do you want kids to be deprived of education for a sniffly nose?

Why do you describe influenza and covid as "a sniffly nose"?

Because often covid is just that. Barely any symptoms...or even no symptoms. Influenza can also present as mild in someone who has been vaccinated.

And the person with the "sniffly nose" from covid goes to school or work and infects someone else with covid, who then gets major symptoms, because that's how infectious diseases work. They're diseases, which are infectious. So yes, I do want kids to be deprived of education while they are infectious with a disease that can make people seriously ill.

Most people don't know they're infectious. Simply out, it isn't possible to prevent people from ever getting sick.

Most people who are sick with an infectious disease don't know they're infectious? Wow.

Correct- they don't. They're either asymptomatic or presymptomatic. Are you just learning that now?

So it's ok for people who have symptoms and know they're infectious to go out and spread a disease because there are other people who may have the disease and be infectious without knowing it? Bonkers.

You're getting sick either way. That's life.

You need to stay home when sick. That’s life.

You're still going to get sick. Accept it.

Yes, and you still need to stay home when sick. Accept it.

You’d be better off accepting that people have been going to the grocery store with covid for 4 years and will continue to do so …

This! People have covid and don't even know it. People are getting exposed on a regular basis. Wear your mask if you are concerned.

My daughter had a little cold and tested negative twice. She went to school. Then later in the week she tested again and was positive. I am sure she exposed people!! But she wasn't sick enough to stay home. The teachers want kids to go to school...there has been too much learning loss trying to avoid virus that has little to no impact on children.

Again, wear a mask if you are concerned. That is the only way around it. You can also stay home. People are spreading germs and you cannot control it.

The appropriate response to "My child might have infected people with covid" is not "Oh well!" but rather "This is bad, actually; I regret it; I will try to do better next time." No different from if your child had infected people with influenza or hand foot and mouth or RSV or whooping cough or any other infectious disease.

As for "little to no impact on children" - that has long since been demonstrated to be false.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/long-covid-in-kids
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/new-research-raises-concerns-about-long-covid-in-children/

Your life must be full of regrets.

My life is fine. Most people try not to get other people sick.

this is honestly not a mentally healthy value. we are biological beings and we are full of bacteria and viruses, especially kids. you cannot keep kids in a bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

omg!!! you are not cautious. you are off your rocker.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

but she uses special mouthwash and nasal spray, so that means her family is allowed to virtuously fly to Disney unlime the rest of us unhygenic sinners.

it could not be MORE clear that people like PP use covid rituals as part of their identities, nothing to do with actual rational risk assessments.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

Outside in restaurants. I didn't add that part because I wanted the idiots to take me seriously.

We masked the entire time in Disney. Of course. I can't say I was all-in on going, but I was outvoted, we went, and the masks did work.

What makes you think masks worked? Do you think the 99% of people who did not mask all got covid?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happy because this is another step to life going back to normal. It means that Covid lost its deadly bite and is now just as (only as?) serious as the flu or other illnesses. Of course, people can get very sick from them, but I like this return to normalcy.

There are no studies showing repeated infections are cool. There are many studies showing they are doing disturbing damage long-term.

Because this information is inconvenient to your life, you choose to ignore it.

No one is asking you not to live your life. Sadly, if we all just lived life a little more responsibly, it would be safer for us all to be free to do so. We went to Disneyworld last year, we fly on planes, we eat in restaurants... but we do so cautiously. We mask. We use mouthwash and nasal spray. Air purifiers. These simple things do quite a lot.

If everyone used them, your elderly relatives would probably be still alive.

I'm sorry, but going to Disney and eating in restaurants is not cautious. This is why it's hard to take some of you seriously.

but she uses special mouthwash and nasal spray, so that means her family is allowed to virtuously fly to Disney unlime the rest of us unhygenic sinners.

it could not be MORE clear that people like PP use covid rituals as part of their identities, nothing to do with actual rational risk assessments.

Everyone needs a hobby.