RMHS Serious Incident today

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Anonymous wrote:Breaking news! An RM kid was shot (not on school grounds or in Rockville):

“Dear Richard Montgomery High School Families,

It saddens me to send one more serious incident letter this weekend concerning one of our RMHS students. I have been made aware that one of our students was the victim of a gunshot on Friday evening. This was a community incident, unrelated to our school or school-sponsored activities, and did not occur in Rockville. The student suffered non-life-threatening injuries and is in the hospital recovering. I have been in contact with the family and have promised any support our school or the district can offer to assist them with this matter. I believe that it is important to share this difficult news with you to be transparent about the situations that are occurring in our community. I also want you and our students to be aware that our school is available to support any student who has concerns about this incident should they learn about it via the news or their social network.

This is the third time I have sent a message about safety and security connected to RMHS within the last week. I wrote to you previously about an unrelated incident in which a gun was confiscated from one of our students on Friday. The three incidents are unrelated to one another. However, I recognize all of this may cause anxiety for our students, staff, and families. Our counselors, Bridge to Wellness team and other MCPS support will be available tomorrow for our staff and students should they need to speak to someone. Furthermore, we are organizing a community meeting after the Thanksgiving break to address any questions or concerns.

As of Sunday evening, the meeting date and time still need to be set but will be communicated within the next two days. We will organize essential school, school system, police, and other community partners there to have all the necessary support for a full conversation. I believe it is important to come together as a community to discuss these incidents openly, share information, and address any concerns you may have.

In preparation for the meeting, we would like to hear from you in advance. I have created a form for you to submit any questions or concerns you would like addressed during the meeting. The form can be found at https://forms.gle/7d7hzC9BUVYH6pPJ7. My commitment is to an open conversation rooted in collaboration and transparency. Having said that, these incidents involve police matters, students, and student privacy afforded by law may mean that some details about these incidents may not be able to be shared.

Together, we can navigate these difficulties and prioritize the safety and well-being of our students and the entire Richard Montgomery community.

Sincerely,
Alicia Deeny
Principal
Richard Montgomery High School“

Yeah, this really has nothing to do with RM. Pretty irrelevant. Did not happen on school grounds.

Of course it matters. It shows what kind of peers your kid will have at that school. No thank you.

It matters because the kid who was shot is part of the school community. This isn't a community incident that doesn't involve anyone from the school.

Nobody thought that when it was a Gonzaga kid.

Anything can happen anywhere once. But you'd have to be blind or progressive not to see the disturbing pattern at RM.

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Anonymous wrote:If not metal detectors, I wonder whether treating more minor infractions (disrespect, drugs, cutting class, threats, any violence) more seriously could help minimize events like this. I don't remember this many issues when there was stricter discipline (or any discipline). But that could just be a biased rosy view of the past. Would a review show that this student had other infractions that went unaddressed or insufficiently addressed (e.g. may have led to suspension in a different era?)

There were drugs and guns in schools when you grew up too. You might not have known about it, but they were there. Treating minor infractions more seriously does nothing to prevent bigger issues. The "broken windows theory" is proven broken.

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Anonymous wrote:Metal detectors in every high school and middle school are worth the money to prevent a tragedy.

The anti-weapons detector and "school prison-to-pipeline" people are going to nag you to death about how this is a waste of money and racist, even though majority-black PG County Public Schools has recently made the decision to install weapons detectors in high schools.

PGCPS is making the difficult, but necessary move to better enable safe schools -- meanwhile we have restorative justice in MCPS.

Seems like things are going great in PG. You should move there to be safe. Have you ever been there or have just read about it there?

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Anonymous wrote:Humm….glad to be at a crappy dcum hs now.

Don’t be so smug. The drugs and weapons are at every single MCPS HS.

Yes, but some schools, the richer ones seem to be having more issues these days...

What planet are you on? It is just a bigger deal when it happens at the "richer" schools (if that is how you think it is best to identify them)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Breaking news! An RM kid was shot (not on school grounds or in Rockville):

“Dear Richard Montgomery High School Families,

It saddens me to send one more serious incident letter this weekend concerning one of our RMHS students. I have been made aware that one of our students was the victim of a gunshot on Friday evening. This was a community incident, unrelated to our school or school-sponsored activities, and did not occur in Rockville. The student suffered non-life-threatening injuries and is in the hospital recovering. I have been in contact with the family and have promised any support our school or the district can offer to assist them with this matter. I believe that it is important to share this difficult news with you to be transparent about the situations that are occurring in our community. I also want you and our students to be aware that our school is available to support any student who has concerns about this incident should they learn about it via the news or their social network.

This is the third time I have sent a message about safety and security connected to RMHS within the last week. I wrote to you previously about an unrelated incident in which a gun was confiscated from one of our students on Friday. The three incidents are unrelated to one another. However, I recognize all of this may cause anxiety for our students, staff, and families. Our counselors, Bridge to Wellness team and other MCPS support will be available tomorrow for our staff and students should they need to speak to someone. Furthermore, we are organizing a community meeting after the Thanksgiving break to address any questions or concerns.

As of Sunday evening, the meeting date and time still need to be set but will be communicated within the next two days. We will organize essential school, school system, police, and other community partners there to have all the necessary support for a full conversation. I believe it is important to come together as a community to discuss these incidents openly, share information, and address any concerns you may have.

In preparation for the meeting, we would like to hear from you in advance. I have created a form for you to submit any questions or concerns you would like addressed during the meeting. The form can be found at https://forms.gle/7d7hzC9BUVYH6pPJ7. My commitment is to an open conversation rooted in collaboration and transparency. Having said that, these incidents involve police matters, students, and student privacy afforded by law may mean that some details about these incidents may not be able to be shared.

Together, we can navigate these difficulties and prioritize the safety and well-being of our students and the entire Richard Montgomery community.

Sincerely,
Alicia Deeny
Principal
Richard Montgomery High School“

Yeah, this really has nothing to do with RM. Pretty irrelevant. Did not happen on school grounds.

Of course it matters. It shows what kind of peers your kid will have at that school. No thank you.

It matters because the kid who was shot is part of the school community. This isn't a community incident that doesn't involve anyone from the school.

Nobody thought that when it was a Gonzaga kid.

Anything can happen anywhere once. But you'd have to be blind or progressive not to see the disturbing pattern at RM.

This didn't even happen at the school. But I do agree that it's a pattern of increasing crime in Montgomery County. And, that you have to be 'blind or progressive' not to acknowledge that our county has lots of issues.

Not much the poor Principal can do about it though. Our voters vote for certain policies and politicians that have led this county and the school system into a huge decline. Unlikely we see much change in that regard.

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Anonymous wrote:If not metal detectors, I wonder whether treating more minor infractions (disrespect, drugs, cutting class, threats, any violence) more seriously could help minimize events like this. I don't remember this many issues when there was stricter discipline (or any discipline). But that could just be a biased rosy view of the past. Would a review show that this student had other infractions that went unaddressed or insufficiently addressed (e.g. may have led to suspension in a different era?)

THIS

I do not support metal detectors at all.

I would like to see more security staff. And I would definitely like to see stricter discipline, starting in ES.

They need both those things and metal detectors. Security can only do so much if they don't have the proper tools.

They could also pat the kids down between every class and search their bags and lockers. They could also hire a bunch of guards to follow them out of the school during lunch to where they go for lunch and monitor them there. We could also use drones and possibly some type of drone that can patrol the schools from the floors. Not to mention, cameras throughout every hallway and classroom. Maybe we could get xray machines as well in case the kids are using 3D printers to make guns that metal detectors won't catch. I am thinking we should require them to wear clear clothing kinda like the clear backups they make. Nothing should be hidden. We should treat each kids as a criminal that we should never miss another criminal of a kid. I think this should be funded with property taxes on properties in the East and North areas of the county.

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If not metal detectors, I wonder whether treating more minor infractions (disrespect, drugs, cutting class, threats, any violence) more seriously could help minimize events like this. I don't remember this many issues when there was stricter discipline (or any discipline). But that could just be a biased rosy view of the past. Would a review show that this student had other infractions that went unaddressed or insufficiently addressed (e.g. may have led to suspension in a different era?)

Completely agree. We need to get rid of restorative justice entirely. Kids who violate rules need consequences. Holding kids accountable is how you show them that you care about them and their futures -- I don't know why MCPS can't get that. Coddling them and telling them it's not their fault that they are screwing up is neither compassionate nor effective. Skipping class, fighting in the halls, vaping, bringing contraband to school are all behaviors that need to be addressed far beyond a RJ circle.

I definitely think that makes sense. We need to work on making the school to prison pipeline more productive in MoCo. We have to be able to fill the jails and prisons in our county. We have to make the moron that wrote this post happy. I don't know why this person can't figure out that what they are saying is complete nonsense. There are no consequences for bad behavior?? What are you talking about? Yes. Ruining their future is how you show that you care. Just keep your tail between your legs and keep running.

[Anonymous]

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If not metal detectors, I wonder whether treating more minor infractions (disrespect, drugs, cutting class, threats, any violence) more seriously could help minimize events like this. I don't remember this many issues when there was stricter discipline (or any discipline). But that could just be a biased rosy view of the past. Would a review show that this student had other infractions that went unaddressed or insufficiently addressed (e.g. may have led to suspension in a different era?)

Completely agree. We need to get rid of restorative justice entirely. Kids who violate rules need consequences. Holding kids accountable is how you show them that you care about them and their futures -- I don't know why MCPS can't get that. Coddling them and telling them it's not their fault that they are screwing up is neither compassionate nor effective. Skipping class, fighting in the halls, vaping, bringing contraband to school are all behaviors that need to be addressed far beyond a RJ circle.

THIS

THIS "THIS" IS stupid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

If not metal detectors, I wonder whether treating more minor infractions (disrespect, drugs, cutting class, threats, any violence) more seriously could help minimize events like this. I don't remember this many issues when there was stricter discipline (or any discipline). But that could just be a biased rosy view of the past. Would a review show that this student had other infractions that went unaddressed or insufficiently addressed (e.g. may have led to suspension in a different era?)

Completely agree. We need to get rid of restorative justice entirely. Kids who violate rules need consequences. Holding kids accountable is how you show them that you care about them and their futures -- I don't know why MCPS can't get that. Coddling them and telling them it's not their fault that they are screwing up is neither compassionate nor effective. Skipping class, fighting in the halls, vaping, bringing contraband to school are all behaviors that need to be addressed far beyond a RJ circle.

Consequences uphold white supremacy.
Accountability upholds white supremacy.
Being on time upholds white supremacy.
Skipping class, fighting in the halls, vaping, bringing contraband to school are all part of POC culture. Trying to assimilate POC into white culture is racist.

Report to reeducation camp immediately.

This is why I like Deion Sanders as a coach. He has very strict levels of accountability and high standards.

Yeah...I think he would be right in-line with the thinking above. Great comparison. Next do hitler's things and point out how a famous jew would support them. The quality of the content on this site has really improved.

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This was the SECOND weapon incident this week. RM is trash.

Wait, what was the first one?

On Monday 11/13: "Close to dismissal today, it was reported to administration that a student may be in possession of a weapon. We immediately notified police who arrived at our school quickly and were able to meet with the student in question. Police did not find any weapons during this interview or search."

I would like to know whether the 2 incidents are connected. Time will tell.

Got it. It was suspected but not confirmed, but I agree, I do wonder if the two incidents were connected since they were in the same week.

Being the same week is really a smoking gun. Must be related

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. The gun was used in a shooting in Germantown last night. ( no one was hit)
Glad the Police found the gun quickly but it never should have made it into the building.

How could they stop them? It’s not like anyone’s checking. They’re just making sure no kids from other schools are getting in.

Security, metal detectors.

I’m an RM parent. I’d be happy to see more security but hard pass on metal detectors. Not really interested in wasting money on metal detectors.

Nope. Safety is NOT a place to save money.

Given all the initiatives that MCPS might be wasting money on, I for one would be in favor of using funds for metal detectors.
Next time, they might not be alerted to a gun in time and then it could really be very costly for students and teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:My straight A kid is very upset about this. We live in one of the “higher end” feeder neighborhoods and are surprised by how often issues like this occur. My kid asked me where would a high schooler get a gun—they just could not understand. BTW-we are a minority family and the same race as the perpetrator. Mentioning this because often we all get painted with the same broad brush.

Mentioning the straight A's just makes you sound like every other dcmom so you're good.

Alicia Deeny continues to be terrible. How about something in that letter like, "the child has been removed from RM and will no longer go there?"

Bringing a gun to school seems like a deal breaker to me, but knowing Deeny, she doesn't want to mention anything punitive because "equity."

MCPS principals do not have the unilateral legal authority to expel. They can request expulsion, but it is a process that they must follow.

I am assuming the expelled child just gets moved to a different hs right? They can not be denied an education?

I definitely think denying an education is the best way to prevent long term issues and crime. The more people we can get out of the education system the safer our society will be. That way they will have absolutely nothing to turn to but crime and then we can blame the school system for the rise in crime. Really getting somewhere now. This forum might be the solution to all of our problems. Keep up the good work team.

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Anonymous wrote:My straight A kid is very upset about this. We live in one of the “higher end” feeder neighborhoods and are surprised by how often issues like this occur. My kid asked me where would a high schooler get a gun—they just could not understand. BTW-we are a minority family and the same race as the perpetrator. Mentioning this because often we all get painted with the same broad brush.

Mentioning the straight A's just makes you sound like every other dcmom so you're good.

Alicia Deeny continues to be terrible. How about something in that letter like, "the child has been removed from RM and will no longer go there?"

Bringing a gun to school seems like a deal breaker to me, but knowing Deeny, she doesn't want to mention anything punitive because "equity."

MCPS principals do not have the unilateral legal authority to expel. They can request expulsion, but it is a process that they must follow.

I am assuming the expelled child just gets moved to a different hs right? They can not be denied an education?

There are also alternative schools like RICA where MCPS can send them.

So what would be the line you draw as to when they are able to go to a different school or we go to denying an education? Do you just stop allowing POC an education and call it a day? Did these kids do something so awful at their first school that they should not be back in any school? Or does anybody actually know what they are talking about?

The alternative schools are a last resort. MCPS these days defaults to transferring troubled kids to other high schools before they go to RICA.

For example, the kid who shot up the Wheaton Metro in May this year, was a Magruder High School student: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/grandmother-grieves-over-wheaton-metro-shooting-victim

But I understand he was a Kennedy student and was transferred to Magruder due to bad behavior at Kennedy. Same thing with the football player kid who sexually assaulted his teammates with brooms. He was transferred to Damascus from another MCPS high school for a pattern of troubling behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad to hear this!

Dear Richard Montgomery High School Community,

I share this message with a mix of concern and relief. Today, in collaboration with the Montgomery County Police Department (MCPD) and MCPS security, our school administration successfully intervened to confiscate a loaded handgun from one of our students. The initial alert from MCPD raised a potential threat, prompting swift coordination between the Rockville City Police Department (RCPD), school administration, and security.

Through effective communication, coordination, and prompt action, we identified and apprehended the individual, safely recovered the weapon, and minimized disruption to our school day.

I recognize that you may feel anxious due to this and other serious incident messages. It is important to understand we take safety very seriously and we will be examining how we can bring ever higher levels of safety to our school. This is our collective desire and our commitment as a school system. I can affirm that RM is a remarkable school, home to dedicated staff who embody the spirit of public service, demonstrating resilience and commitment daily. As a community, we are resolute in our mission to maintain a secure and positive learning environment for our students. This incident is not who we are as a school or community.

While this incident remains an active police investigation, our commitment to your safety remains a focus. For this incident due to the ongoing nature of the investigation, I'm unable to share specific details at this time; should we learn more information important to share with our community, I will do so.

For the remainder of today, our collaboration with law enforcement continues, with police presence around our premises. The Bridge to Wellness team is available to support students and staff.

To parents, students, and staff, your solidarity is deeply appreciated. We remain united as a school family, working alongside our community partners to address our safety concerns.

Warm regards,

Alicia Deeny
Principal

RM strikes again!! Not even surprised anymore.

I know! It's scary especially the W's with all their guns and knives these days.

I don't get the "W" jealousy on this site. If you want to go to a W school, just move and go there. Jealousy is an ugly color on you

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I think the entire situation was handled very well. And, I'm not normally an MCPS cheerleader (much to complain about). A lockdown would not have been helpful, and our kids were kept safe with little disruption.

+1. I still have many questions but appreciate that there is a lot that cannot be shared when the investigation is still ongoing. I do hope that the kid is permanently expelled. The kids at RM have a right to feel safe in their school... all the gains that were made since the last incident have been wiped away and the trust has to be rebuilt again.

More likely the kid will be transferred to another high school. Maybe Magruder or Damascus, like we have seen happen before.

MCPS is required to educate kids. Even kids with guns.

That is a good idea. Send to the schools with all of the problems already. THey will fit right in