Where can 92/93 GPA St. Albans Student Be Admitted For College?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hey all.

This chain seemed very familiar. Turns out the same troll posted almost the same inquiry back in March. Only difference was test score was 1520 then and average was a 91. All else identical, and 13 pages of posts ensued with, as here, the OP never appearing other than in the kickoff post. I've reupped the chain.

One kinda funny note-- the most frequent recommendation was to forget the Ivies and try to go ED at Chicago (with a lot of advice to go for BC as a more fun alternative to the Ivies than Chicago).

Hahaha.

Looks like OP punked the Saint Albans boosters twice in one year!

By doing it on this forum and not on the private school forum, OP got the boosters to trumpet their privilege, and mock the rest of us whose kids have to do a lot more than get a "92/93!" to make a claim to an Ivy--- and to lament the days when Biff wouldn't be left with Chicago as his best option!

Looking forward to the next setup to display your arrogance!

To be fair, I was mocking your ignorance not your poverty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad news is UVA is unattainable with those numbers. But good news is Christopher Newport and James Madison are likely good fits, and both have good academic supports to help students with weak high school grades progress towards a college degree. Mary Washington as a safety.

I assume this is sarcastic commentary.

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I agree with PP-- No way is anyone getting into UVA with a 92 average. There are obviously options other than VA state schools, but those are some poor grades to be talking Ivy admissions.

That's an ignorant comment. 92 is excellent at STA, together with a 1560 SAT. UVA is entirely obtainable. Your frame of reference must be FCPS or some MCPS schools, which throw 4.0s around like confetti. The admissions office at UVA knows this and acts accordingly. I've seen the college matric list at STA/NCS and almost all seniors - even those with a bunch of Bs and scattering of Cs - end up at places that most Annandale hs "valedictorians" (all 28 of them) could only dream of. Apples and Oranges. It's like saying "that guy's in the bottom 10% of the NBA. I could beat him in a game of one-on-one." Um, no, you can't.

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Last year 20 percent of the kids got accepted at UVA and one kid got Jefferson scholarships.
What is the percentage of the kids from public school that get in ?

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Anonymous wrote:Bad news is UVA is unattainable with those numbers. But good news is Christopher Newport and James Madison are likely good fits, and both have good academic supports to help students with weak high school grades progress towards a college degree. Mary Washington as a safety.

I assume this is sarcastic commentary.

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I agree with PP-- No way is anyone getting into UVA with a 92 average. There are obviously options other than VA state schools, but those are some poor grades to be talking Ivy admissions.

Huh…isn’t that a straight A average by most standards?

Know many DC students accepted to UVA with worse stats than that. Wide variety of majors.

How is a 92 average a "straight A average"? That's a B+ . Maybe an A- at a school with grade inflation.

At many schools, a 90 is an A….at nearly all schools, a 93 is an A (and they round up).

OP says 92/93, so on a letter scale this would be all As or A-.

This is a ridiculous argument. A 92/93 average, in all likelihood, means a mix of As and Bs (maybe even a C or two), averaging out to the dividing line between A and B. Nothing to write home about. Nothing to impress an Ivy admissions office. Number is a nonstarrter at UVA unless the kid is a sports recruit. I'm sure there are schools that will see $$$ when they see Saint Albans on the application (hence the recommendations to apply ED to Chicago), but none of the Ivies are that hard up for money. And UVA does have very hard lines.

Please go back to whatever public forum you came from. You have no idea what you're talking about. I have nothing against public schools (my kids all attended them for yrs) but grading is different (not better, just different) at STA. It's not an average of letter grades. It's the cumulative number grade in all classes. To get a high 90's GPA is almost impossible as it means that you pretty much never got less than a 90% on any assignment for 4 years (as there are no retakes, corrections, late work, etc). Anyway, a low 90s GPA is impressive. An average GPA at STA is somewhere in the 80s.

You obviously don't have a child at STA. It's up to the teacher, but there absolutely are retakes, corrections, and late submissions forgiven, as well as lowest quiz scores thrown out.

What a scam. Even my kids' crappy southern private doesn't allow any of that. Retakes?!

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Anonymous wrote:Last year 20 percent of the kids got accepted at UVA and one kid got Jefferson scholarships.
What is the percentage of the kids from public school that get in ?

yep, one got the Jefferson and several others got the Echols. This is from a class of 72 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My son has a GPA at STA in this range with a 1560 SAT and wants to aim for elite colleges. From your experience, where can he realistically expect to be admitted? Does he have a shot at the Ivy League?

You have to think of it this way....your kid, along with 150,000 others has a ticket to get into the stadium. Well qualified, good application, etc. Only 7,000 of those tickets get you on to the floor of the stadium for the prime viewing. There is almost nothing that distinguishes any of the 150,000 applicants from each other, almost pure luck. Sure, there are some hooks, some athletes etc, but for the most part, these are all talented, smart, well presenting kids.

So does he have a shot? Sure.
Should he count on it? No.

So the key is to figure out what the common traits are for the schools he might be interested in. So in other words, don't think of it as "does he have a shot at Ivy league" because the league has some smaller schools and some bigger schools, some urban schools and some rural schools, and more importantly, some schools have a very open curriculum and others have a strict distribution requirements. The idea and a kid would apply to all the Ivys is crazy, because they can be very different.

Find the common traits, figure out big school or small school, urban school or rural school, what part of the country is of interest, etc. Once those questions are answered, you can narrow lists of hundreds of schools down to 20-30 and then research from there.

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only 8323 scored above 1550 on sat. so not sure where your 150k comes from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW, how and when did Chicago go from being the school for nerdy brainiacs to be the go to choice for rich private school students who can't get into any other top 20 school.

I graduated from high school in the mid 1980's. For my era, Chicago was the place where rich braniacs went to school, if they wanted to be in the midwest or didn't get into the Ivies. So...at least 40 years. But I would guess longer than that.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, how and when did Chicago go from being the school for nerdy brainiacs to be the go to choice for rich private school students who can't get into any other top 20 school.

UChicago was widely known as a back up school for NCS and STA students when I attended in the 90s. I think UChicago just really likes STA and NCS. UChicago understands grade deflation and wants nerdy gets who work hard.

It is not just STA and NCS kids, even in NYC UChicago it the choice for kids in privates who don't have the stats for Ivies. Top students from NYC privates don't apply or go there. The above average to average kids go there but they have to apply ED. Nondorf himself comes to the high schools and tells kids to apply ED if they want to be accepted. Looks like they want to beef up their endowment and figured that getting these kids is a good long term strategy.

What’s harder to get into?

Northwestern ED or UChicago ED2??

Northwestern

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Anonymous wrote:only 8323 scored above 1550 on sat. so not sure where your 150k comes from.

Anything above 1500 is counted the same. A school won't admit one kid over another based on 20 or 40 points on the SAT. So the 150,000 number is based on relative applications to relative number of spots.

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Yeah, your assumption is that differences in SAT scores above a certain level will increase admissions chances. They don't. Once minimum thresholds are met, institutional priorities become more relevant. Selingo's book essentially says as much.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey all.

This chain seemed very familiar. Turns out the same troll posted almost the same inquiry back in March. Only difference was test score was 1520 then and average was a 91. All else identical, and 13 pages of posts ensued with, as here, the OP never appearing other than in the kickoff post. I've reupped the chain.

One kinda funny note-- the most frequent recommendation was to forget the Ivies and try to go ED at Chicago (with a lot of advice to go for BC as a more fun alternative to the Ivies than Chicago).

Hahaha.

Looks like OP punked the Saint Albans boosters twice in one year!

By doing it on this forum and not on the private school forum, OP got the boosters to trumpet their privilege, and mock the rest of us whose kids have to do a lot more than get a "92/93!" to make a claim to an Ivy--- and to lament the days when Biff wouldn't be left with Chicago as his best option!

Looking forward to the next setup to display your arrogance!

To be fair, I was mocking your ignorance not your poverty.

LOL. And your kid still isn't getting into an Ivy.

But I hear that Tulane likes STA boys who apply ED and are full pay!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad news is UVA is unattainable with those numbers. But good news is Christopher Newport and James Madison are likely good fits, and both have good academic supports to help students with weak high school grades progress towards a college degree. Mary Washington as a safety.

I assume this is sarcastic commentary.

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I agree with PP-- No way is anyone getting into UVA with a 92 average. There are obviously options other than VA state schools, but those are some poor grades to be talking Ivy admissions.

That's an ignorant comment. 92 is excellent at STA, together with a 1560 SAT. UVA is entirely obtainable. Your frame of reference must be FCPS or some MCPS schools, which throw 4.0s around like confetti. The admissions office at UVA knows this and acts accordingly. I've seen the college matric list at STA/NCS and almost all seniors - even those with a bunch of Bs and scattering of Cs - end up at places that most Annandale hs "valedictorians" (all 28 of them) could only dream of. Apples and Oranges. It's like saying "that guy's in the bottom 10% of the NBA. I could beat him in a game of one-on-one." Um, no, you can't.

Please stop! You're embarrassing yourself. OP posted the same question in March and exposed the arrogance and entitlement that goes along with privilege---all focused on getting above-average Biff into the Ivy he deserves. But keep at it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad news is UVA is unattainable with those numbers. But good news is Christopher Newport and James Madison are likely good fits, and both have good academic supports to help students with weak high school grades progress towards a college degree. Mary Washington as a safety.

I assume this is sarcastic commentary.

?
I agree with PP-- No way is anyone getting into UVA with a 92 average. There are obviously options other than VA state schools, but those are some poor grades to be talking Ivy admissions.

That's an ignorant comment. 92 is excellent at STA, together with a 1560 SAT. UVA is entirely obtainable. Your frame of reference must be FCPS or some MCPS schools, which throw 4.0s around like confetti. The admissions office at UVA knows this and acts accordingly. I've seen the college matric list at STA/NCS and almost all seniors - even those with a bunch of Bs and scattering of Cs - end up at places that most Annandale hs "valedictorians" (all 28 of them) could only dream of. Apples and Oranges. It's like saying "that guy's in the bottom 10% of the NBA. I could beat him in a game of one-on-one." Um, no, you can't.

Y'all are responding to a troll!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey all.

This chain seemed very familiar. Turns out the same troll posted almost the same inquiry back in March. Only difference was test score was 1520 then and average was a 91. All else identical, and 13 pages of posts ensued with, as here, the OP never appearing other than in the kickoff post. I've reupped the chain.

One kinda funny note-- the most frequent recommendation was to forget the Ivies and try to go ED at Chicago (with a lot of advice to go for BC as a more fun alternative to the Ivies than Chicago).

Hahaha.

Looks like OP punked the Saint Albans boosters twice in one year!

By doing it on this forum and not on the private school forum, OP got the boosters to trumpet their privilege, and mock the rest of us whose kids have to do a lot more than get a "92/93!" to make a claim to an Ivy--- and to lament the days when Biff wouldn't be left with Chicago as his best option!

Looking forward to the next setup to display your arrogance!

To be fair, I was mocking your ignorance not your poverty.

LOL. And your kid still isn't getting into an Ivy.

But I hear that Tulane likes STA boys who apply ED and are full pay!

Maybe, maybe not (for all you know my kids are already at Ivy League schools), but Tulane is good school that they would have been perfectly happy to attend. You just don’t know.


But we do know based on the evidence in front of us that you are still an ignorant ass.