GOP endorsed school board candidates

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Anonymous wrote:So in other words, people are taking umbrage at a proposal that the school board did not pass? I don't get it.

Yes.

Republicans lie or misrepresent because they don’t have an actual platform.

Why? Didn't it pass? Because the school board realized it was too much, too far.

They realized they have a bunch of backwards wackadoodle parents.

And again, democrats are demonizing parents and implying the school board knows better what is best for our kids.

The issue isn’t all parents. Just the crazy ones who push Republican lies.

Again, you got what you voted for.

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Anonymous wrote:The current FCPS school board does not have a single GOP, or even independent, member. They are all democrats.

The current board has repeatedly insisted FCPS schools absolutely must include certain books in FCPS libraries because of “equity” and support for LGTBQIA+ students. They insist your children must be able to see illustrations like this in the school library (except, the children’s version is not blurred out).



Would you feel comfortable showing fellatio drawings to your own children?

It’s not a dick.

NP. That's your response? How incredibly typical for a Democrat.

So a person sucking a strap-on is appropriate material for an 11yr old to have access to, or be tempted to review it because they saw it promoted during the American Library Association Banned Book promotion?

11 year olds aren’t in HS.

More lies.

Do your research. It's in middle school libraries and high school libraries, despite author now backtracking and saying that her book was for high school and up. Whatever, it's all silly because the content is still porn. It's just GAY porn so for some reason everyone is defensive of it as an LGBT book.
I'm not that hung up on it in general b/c the kids all have phones in their pockets and can stumble on this stuff at any time if they want to. And I'm all about anyone being able to access porn if they want to in the public library (would prefer age restricted to 18 and up), but I definitely get that it's weird to have pornographic drawings available in the SCHOOL library.

What is weird is how vigorously the current school board fought to keep pornography (gay, straight or otherwise) in school libraries where, as pointed out above: if your creepy 50 year-old neighbor gave pornography to your 14 year-old and tried to hide it from you, that person would rightly be arrested.

But it’s also a sad fact that every 14 year-old with a phone has access to internet porn and has probably seen some by that age. It doesn’t make porn OK for kids though. It’s really destructive and so demeaning, really.

Porn is bad for kids. This book is not porn.

The image is not porn?

It depicts a tween, or a teen, wearing a strap-on dildo, while another tween gives them a blow-job / performs fellatio on the first tween.

If graphic images of fellatio are not pornographic to you, and you think tweens should be looking at these images in FCPS school libraries, I guess we disagree.

Are you one of the School Board candidates?

No. That’s not porn. And you clearly didn’t read the book.

I'm going to check it out, but with that illustration - what difference does it make if you read the book? It literally don't think it matters if I read the book.

Because then you’d understand that the story (and corresponding images) aren’t meant to “stimulate” anyone. If anything, it tells the story of someone choosing to wait to have sexual experiences.

I'm on the Fairfax County library hold list for the book - I'll be the judge I'm no prude but that pic is pretty surprising that anyone would defend being in a school library.

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Anonymous wrote:The current FCPS school board does not have a single GOP, or even independent, member. They are all democrats.

The current board has repeatedly insisted FCPS schools absolutely must include certain books in FCPS libraries because of “equity” and support for LGTBQIA+ students. They insist your children must be able to see illustrations like this in the school library (except, the children’s version is not blurred out).



Would you feel comfortable showing fellatio drawings to your own children?

It’s not a dick.

NP. That's your response? How incredibly typical for a Democrat.

So a person sucking a strap-on is appropriate material for an 11yr old to have access to, or be tempted to review it because they saw it promoted during the American Library Association Banned Book promotion?

11 year olds aren’t in HS.

More lies.

Do your research. It's in middle school libraries and high school libraries, despite author now backtracking and saying that her book was for high school and up. Whatever, it's all silly because the content is still porn. It's just GAY porn so for some reason everyone is defensive of it as an LGBT book.
I'm not that hung up on it in general b/c the kids all have phones in their pockets and can stumble on this stuff at any time if they want to. And I'm all about anyone being able to access porn if they want to in the public library (would prefer age restricted to 18 and up), but I definitely get that it's weird to have pornographic drawings available in the SCHOOL library.

Which FCPS middle school has this book?

And it's not porn. You haven't read the book and/or don't understand the definition of porn.

Still waiting to hear which FCPS middle school has this book.

Rs push lies 24x7.

Do high schools have it - they share libraries with MS in secondary schools.

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The high schools have it. Just go to your local library and do a search on their course catalog. Not hard.

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Maybe it’s not porn but it should not be in a school library with minors. We would be fired for distributing pictures like this at work (full of 18+ year old adults), I don’t see how it is appropriate in a public school full of minors.

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Serous question: how is that picture not considered porn?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s not porn but it should not be in a school library with minors. We would be fired for distributing pictures like this at work (full of 18+ year old adults), I don’t see how it is appropriate in a public school full of minors.

You’d also be fired for distributing biology textbook images of genitals.

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Anonymous wrote:pornography

Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography

^ definition of porn

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Anonymous wrote:So in other words, people are taking umbrage at a proposal that the school board did not pass? I don't get it.

Yes.

Republicans lie or misrepresent because they don’t have an actual platform.

Why? Didn't it pass? Because the school board realized it was too much, too far.

They realized they have a bunch of backwards wackadoodle parents.

And again, democrats are demonizing parents and implying the school board knows better what is best for our kids.

The issue isn’t all parents. Just the crazy ones who push Republican lies.

Again, you got what you voted for.

No one voted to have the crazy Rs push lies.

[Anonymous]

I do not give a flying rat's a$$ what you as an individual think is "porn." And FTR, no I do not consider the books here discussed "porn." But it doesn't matter what I think, either, as it concerns your kids.

You decided for YOUR kid. I will decide for mine. You have zero right to restrict my kid's access to the full range of publications in a library. You want to "forbid" your own kids, have at it. If you want to have a "consent form" for you to opt your kid out of having access to it or checking it out, knock yourself out. But make no mistake, you are a fascist a--hole if you are trying to dictate that for other people.

The thing I find funny, aside from the attempts at fascist control of what other people read, is A) by HS, most kids have already seen ACTUAL porn or near porn and know WAY more than you think they do. It's adorable some of you think otherwise. So, you've already failed.
B) Almost every HS kid has a computer and/or phone. So, I cannot take your outrage seriously, when your kid has access to the "dark" sites, porn, and more on a daily basis. So, worry about yourself and what you can control. But it will never be me and my kid.

Any school board member who is remotely in favor of catering to fascists, and banning books, undercutting the expertise of librarians, will not only not have my vote. But I will work to make sure they never see the light of a Board Member's office.

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all this seems like a nothing burger
both sides

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Anonymous wrote:I do not give a flying rat's a$$ what you as an individual think is "porn." And FTR, no I do not consider the books here discussed "porn." But it doesn't matter what I think, either, as it concerns your kids.

You decided for YOUR kid. I will decide for mine. You have zero right to restrict my kid's access to the full range of publications in a library. You want to "forbid" your own kids, have at it. If you want to have a "consent form" for you to opt your kid out of having access to it or checking it out, knock yourself out. But make no mistake, you are a fascist a--hole if you are trying to dictate that for other people.

The thing I find funny, aside from the attempts at fascist control of what other people read, is A) by HS, most kids have already seen ACTUAL porn or near porn and know WAY more than you think they do. It's adorable some of you think otherwise. So, you've already failed.
B) Almost every HS kid has a computer and/or phone. So, I cannot take your outrage seriously, when your kid has access to the "dark" sites, porn, and more on a daily basis. So, worry about yourself and what you can control. But it will never be me and my kid.

Any school board member who is remotely in favor of catering to fascists, and banning books, undercutting the expertise of librarians, will not only not have my vote. But I will work to make sure they never see the light of a Board Member's office.

^ Someone upthread mentioned wackadoodle parents. Here's one.

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It's a slippery slope. I don't want to end up here:

https://people.com/teacher-fired-for-reading-illustrated-diary-of-anne-frank-eighth-grade-7971994

Teacher Fired for Reading Excerpt from Illustrated Diary of Anne Frank to Eighth-Grade Class
The book has previously been challenged in Florida schools as the Anne Frank Foundation expresses concern regarding "denial of history"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not give a flying rat's a$$ what you as an individual think is "porn." And FTR, no I do not consider the books here discussed "porn." But it doesn't matter what I think, either, as it concerns your kids.

You decided for YOUR kid. I will decide for mine. You have zero right to restrict my kid's access to the full range of publications in a library. You want to "forbid" your own kids, have at it. If you want to have a "consent form" for you to opt your kid out of having access to it or checking it out, knock yourself out. But make no mistake, you are a fascist a--hole if you are trying to dictate that for other people.

The thing I find funny, aside from the attempts at fascist control of what other people read, is A) by HS, most kids have already seen ACTUAL porn or near porn and know WAY more than you think they do. It's adorable some of you think otherwise. So, you've already failed.
B) Almost every HS kid has a computer and/or phone. So, I cannot take your outrage seriously, when your kid has access to the "dark" sites, porn, and more on a daily basis. So, worry about yourself and what you can control. But it will never be me and my kid.

Any school board member who is remotely in favor of catering to fascists, and banning books, undercutting the expertise of librarians, will not only not have my vote. But I will work to make sure they never see the light of a Board Member's office.

+1

When Republicans are pushing "parents' rights" they are really saying that they want to tell all of the other parents what they can do.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not give a flying rat's a$$ what you as an individual think is "porn." And FTR, no I do not consider the books here discussed "porn." But it doesn't matter what I think, either, as it concerns your kids.

You decided for YOUR kid. I will decide for mine. You have zero right to restrict my kid's access to the full range of publications in a library. You want to "forbid" your own kids, have at it. If you want to have a "consent form" for you to opt your kid out of having access to it or checking it out, knock yourself out. But make no mistake, you are a fascist a--hole if you are trying to dictate that for other people.

The thing I find funny, aside from the attempts at fascist control of what other people read, is A) by HS, most kids have already seen ACTUAL porn or near porn and know WAY more than you think they do. It's adorable some of you think otherwise. So, you've already failed.
B) Almost every HS kid has a computer and/or phone. So, I cannot take your outrage seriously, when your kid has access to the "dark" sites, porn, and more on a daily basis. So, worry about yourself and what you can control. But it will never be me and my kid.

Any school board member who is remotely in favor of catering to fascists, and banning books, undercutting the expertise of librarians, will not only not have my vote. But I will work to make sure they never see the light of a Board Member's office.

What, if any, lines would you draw for books in school libraries and why?