BASIS Equitable Access Preference

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Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


Ellington is part of dcps. As an LEA, dcps does serve everyone. Basis (like almost all charter schools) has chosen to be its own LEA. That comes with advantages, but also responsibilities.


This makes zero sense. BASIS does NOT have to replace the entire DCPS system. Congrats on the dumbest post to date! Charters are by design intended to fill niches and areas where DCPS may have gaps. It is literally one of the considerations for DCPSB. Go away WTU troll.
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Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


Ellington is part of dcps. As an LEA, dcps does serve everyone. Basis (like almost all charter schools) has chosen to be its own LEA. That comes with advantages, but also responsibilities.


This makes zero sense. BASIS does NOT have to replace the entire DCPS system. Congrats on the dumbest post to date! Charters are by design intended to fill niches and areas where DCPS may have gaps. It is literally one of the considerations for DCPSB. Go away WTU troll.


Very normal people checking in today
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


Ellington is part of dcps. As an LEA, dcps does serve everyone. Basis (like almost all charter schools) has chosen to be its own LEA. That comes with advantages, but also responsibilities.


This is a dumb take. Part of the purpose of EA preference is to get kids into schools that they wouldn’t otherwise have access to because of barriers, including barriers to applying and barriers because they can’t afford that neighborhood etc. The Ward 3 schools, Ellington, Walls, etc should all be required to offer the preference of places like Latin, BASIS, SWS, etc are expected to do it.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it will make a huge difference to middle school enrollment. It’s hardly impacted Latin.


Latin already has mediocre academics.

What she’s saying is, they weren’t even able to fill the EA seats at Latin.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


You assume at-risk kids aren’t smart enough for BASIS. You don’t want your kids’ school to make even this minimal effort because they may actually admit poor kids.


The chances of a child experiencing homelessness or being in foster care being successful at a place like BASIS is very low. BASIS requires involved parents and well supported students. You are living in a fairytale if you think kids experiencing that level of trauma are going to succeed at a place like BASIS.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


You assume at-risk kids aren’t smart enough for BASIS. You don’t want your kids’ school to make even this minimal effort because they may actually admit poor kids.


The chances of a child experiencing homelessness or being in foster care being successful at a place like BASIS is very low. BASIS requires involved parents and well supported students. You are living in a fairytale if you think kids experiencing that level of trauma are going to succeed at a place like BASIS.


The income qualifications standards for at-risk preference bring in a lot of kids though.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it will make a huge difference to middle school enrollment. It’s hardly impacted Latin.


Latin already has mediocre academics.

What she’s saying is, they weren’t even able to fill the EA seats at Latin.


Interesting. What is it about Latin that makes at-risk families uninterested in applying?
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According to the email, 34% of all the applications BASIS receives are from at-risk students suggests that these families want to go to BASIS. Maybe Latin has a much lower percentage overall.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


You assume at-risk kids aren’t smart enough for BASIS. You don’t want your kids’ school to make even this minimal effort because they may actually admit poor kids.


The chances of a child experiencing homelessness or being in foster care being successful at a place like BASIS is very low. BASIS requires involved parents and well supported students. You are living in a fairytale if you think kids experiencing that level of trauma are going to succeed at a place like BASIS.


The income qualifications standards for at-risk preference bring in a lot of kids though.


This. Amazing the number of DCUM readers and posters who think EA=only homeless kids.
Anonymous
Is that 34% of at-risk applications for 5th grade seats? What seems to happen is that it is UMC parents who are laser-focused on a MS/HS path and are willing to pull their kids from their local ES after 4th in order to get a 5th grade lottery seat---which is when Basis and Latin completely fill up. But the at-risk families apply more often for 6th grade (which is the natural MS entry-point for most of the DCPS system) or at 9th grade (for HS)---and in those instances there are fewer seats available for those years. In its early days, when it was located in a hodgepodge of buildings on 16th street, Latin had an extremely high percentage of at-risk kids at the high school level because the middle class families all left for more traditional HS environments (privates, Walls, Jackson-Reed). So Latin had more available seats in 9th grade. But after Latin moved into its permanent building location and the college counseling program became established with good results, families who previously would have left for HS elected to remain.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the email, 34% of all the applications BASIS receives are from at-risk students suggests that these families want to go to BASIS. Maybe Latin has a much lower percentage overall.


Oddly it's about the same for middle school but a lot higher for high school at Latin. 19%.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


You assume at-risk kids aren’t smart enough for BASIS. You don’t want your kids’ school to make even this minimal effort because they may actually admit poor kids.


The chances of a child experiencing homelessness or being in foster care being successful at a place like BASIS is very low. BASIS requires involved parents and well supported students. You are living in a fairytale if you think kids experiencing that level of trauma are going to succeed at a place like BASIS.


Well, that’s convenient, isn’t it? BASIS isn’t willing to spend any resources to offer opportunities to these kids? To provide any of that support to help them succeed? This is actually the hard work that BASIS avoids doing.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the email, 34% of all the applications BASIS receives are from at-risk students suggests that these families want to go to BASIS. Maybe Latin has a much lower percentage overall.


Oddly it's about the same for middle school but a lot higher for high school at Latin. 19%.


Might be the rich kids peeling off to private HS or Walls
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the email, 34% of all the applications BASIS receives are from at-risk students suggests that these families want to go to BASIS. Maybe Latin has a much lower percentage overall.


Oddly it's about the same for middle school but a lot higher for high school at Latin. 19%.


Might be the rich kids peeling off to private HS or Walls


Yeah, I don't think that's odd at all. Latin is a great environment (contra BASIS), but it's academics aren't great. Lots of UMC parents go there intending to move their kid to private or Walls or suburbia for 9th. It's actually part of the reason the Latin college admissions aren't as good as you think when you look at your kid's 5th grade Latin class; it's because the chunk that leaves pre-9th is decidedly not random.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BASIS has announced they're doing an equitable access preference. The email makes it sound like they will be admitting equitable access students in ALL GRADES (5-12): "We plan to reserve a certain number of spots for at-risk students entering grades 5-12."

I personally don't love this. Underperforming disruptive students are already a problem at BASIS. BASIS is successful because those students are weeded out. This seems like yet another school that will be ruined in the name of "equity."


It would be terrible if a school that operates with public money was actually forced to serve the public.

Charter school parents, especially basis parents, complain about funding inequalities between charters and dcps, but then want their school to only accept the easiest students.


This is a hollow phrase. Would you argue that Duke Ellington doesn't "serve the public" because it doesn't serve those without artistic inclination and ability? BASIS has a specific curriculum and approach. It isn't for everyone. Not everything has to be for everyone. People like you would have TJ and Bronx Science and Boston Latin lower standards in the name of...equity? No thanks.

Thankfully I think we've passed the point in DC where people like you were believed to speak for most parents.


You assume at-risk kids aren’t smart enough for BASIS. You don’t want your kids’ school to make even this minimal effort because they may actually admit poor kids.


The chances of a child experiencing homelessness or being in foster care being successful at a place like BASIS is very low. BASIS requires involved parents and well supported students. You are living in a fairytale if you think kids experiencing that level of trauma are going to succeed at a place like BASIS.


Well, that’s convenient, isn’t it? BASIS isn’t willing to spend any resources to offer opportunities to these kids? To provide any of that support to help them succeed? This is actually the hard work that BASIS avoids doing.


Basis, like other schools, has special ed teachers, counselors, and other support staff. Teachers have "office hours" when students can come for extra help. There are Saturday study sessions in some cases. I don't know the full extent of the support offered because my children haven't needed much, but it's inaccurate to say that they don't have "any resources." Whether it's the right amount, I don't know; for some students it's clearly not enough, but that will always be true.
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