Gifted programs, options

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

Or kids who get financial aid. We're a pretty "normal" middle class family (not by DCUM standards, by real world standards) and my kid got offered aid for camp, but decided to go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

Or kids who get financial aid. We're a pretty "normal" middle class family (not by DCUM standards, by real world standards) and my kid got offered aid for camp, but decided to go elsewhere.

Even with aid it’s out of most people’s budgets. Plus there’s the transportation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

Or kids who get financial aid. We're a pretty "normal" middle class family (not by DCUM standards, by real world standards) and my kid got offered aid for camp, but decided to go elsewhere.

Even with aid it’s out of most people’s budgets. Plus there’s the transportation.

Many people who couldn't come up with tuition can come up with MARC fare to Baltimore from DC.

There are also online classes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

Pushy? That's our job as parents: we scramble for resources for our children. What kind of charmed life do you live (or brainwashing did you experience) that you think there's something wrong with that? What an odd comment. I'd hate to see your child need something but be left without an advocate because his/her parent feels like arguing for your child's best interests is somehow in poor taste!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

That kids can take precalculus in 9th in MCPS has nothing to do with whether my kid is or isn’t profoundly gifted. It was offered as response to the claim that gifted programs only go one grade ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

Read the message again. There were two points made that were not directly connected:

1) profoundly gifted kid was served well in Montessori
2) public school gifted programs go more than one grade ahead (as a PP previously claimed)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas for how to approach DCPS for providing FAPE for a profoundly gifted child? Our zoned school is not appropriate for our child’s academic needs. What can the school system provide in this case?

I'm not sure what DCPS can or is willing to do.

Coincedentally, I just had a meeting with a CTY alumni relations person, and she was intrigued by the idea that there is a huge opportunity in D.C. for parents of gifted children who want more for their kids since, unlike the surrounding districts, we don't have any gifted programming. She is going to think about how it might be possible to reach gifted kids within D.C. and funnel them into CTY programs.

I did CTY in the 90s and it was kind of life changing (more than the pull-out gifted program we had in school). I'm definitely going to try to get my own kids in, especially to the residential programs.

CTY is incredibly expensive. It’s not designed for kids from normal families, just rich or pushy ones.

Pushy? That's our job as parents: we scramble for resources for our children. What kind of charmed life do you live (or brainwashing did you experience) that you think there's something wrong with that? What an odd comment. I'd hate to see your child need something but be left without an advocate because his/her parent feels like arguing for your child's best interests is somehow in poor taste!

I’ve come across many parents like you, with kids whose academic success comes entirely from the parents goals and aims for them. Kids who are out under relentless pressure from their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

In that case, there are more options in DC than Montgomery county for math acceleration - despite what has been said in this thread. In MCPS I’m not aware of any other opportunities for precalculus in 9th (or prior to 9th) other than the Blair or Poolesville magnets which take the top 200 kids per grade (100 each school out of what, 12,000?). That program though is incredibly intense and mostly college level starting in 9th. I guess Basis goes further, but selects by lottery?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

Read the message again. There were two points made that were not directly connected:

1) profoundly gifted kid was served well in Montessori
2) public school gifted programs go more than one grade ahead (as a PP previously claimed)

We understand completely your points…we are simply taking issue with your thesis. Your kids aren’t profoundly gifted. 99.9% of the kids in CTY aren’t profoundly gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

Read the message again. There were two points made that were not directly connected:

1) profoundly gifted kid was served well in Montessori
2) public school gifted programs go more than one grade ahead (as a PP previously claimed)

We understand completely your points…we are simply taking issue with your thesis. Your kids aren’t profoundly gifted. 99.9% of the kids in CTY aren’t profoundly gifted.

You might be right but there’s no evidence whether the kid is or not. Just like with the OP, yet nobody attacked the OP. What’s up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

Read the message again. There were two points made that were not directly connected:

1) profoundly gifted kid was served well in Montessori
2) public school gifted programs go more than one grade ahead (as a PP previously claimed)

We understand completely your points…we are simply taking issue with your thesis. Your kids aren’t profoundly gifted. 99.9% of the kids in CTY aren’t profoundly gifted.

You might be right but there’s no evidence whether the kid is or not. Just like with the OP, yet nobody attacked the OP. What’s up?

Not trying to single you out…so sure transfer it to OP.

I don’t think people realize that if you have a profoundly gifted kid it is like its own category of special needs.

No surprise that you don’t see the words “profoundly gifted and prom king or queen” uttered in the same phrase.

Also, rarely do profoundly gifted kids end up super-successful in life. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg fall into the really, really smart category.

If you had a profoundly gifted kid you wouldn’t be asking for advice on how to accelerate them…you would be asking WTF do I do with my kid that on their own found and just finished an advanced differential equations class and they are 10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no public school system (or even private) that would ever be able to adequately meet the needs of a profoundly gifted student. “Gifted” programs are typically only providing curriculum that is one year advanced and only meets the needs of high achievers. This is why most profoundly gifted students are homeschooled. Your best bet would be to put your child in a Montessori school.

Montessori is often disastrous for profoundly gifted kids.

Plenty of kids in this category do well in public or private school.

Lots of incorrect information. Montessori was great for my profoundly gifted child precisely because there are no boundaries to what they can learn. And the “gifted” programs in MCPS go much beyond one grade level ahead. The elementary CES program offers English/social science instruction and content that is largely 3-4 grades ahead. The middle school magnets accelerate the kids in math by 2-3 years by the end of middle school. The high school magnets are even more accelerated with kids taking precalculus in 9th grade.

A kid taking Precalc in 9th grade is not profoundly gifted…there plenty of kids coming from Deal to Walls and JR that are taking Precalc in 9th grade.

Stop referring to your kids as profoundly gifted…they are not. They are really smart just like millions of kids.

+1. My (highly gifted, but not "profoundly gifted") kid took AP calc in 8th grade at Basis. My other kid, who is a typical UMC moderately gifted kid, took precalc in 9th.

Real profoundly gifted kids cannot be served in regular schools. PP probably has a kid with an IQ around 145 and is calling their highly gifted kid "profoundly gifted."

Read the message again. There were two points made that were not directly connected:

1) profoundly gifted kid was served well in Montessori
2) public school gifted programs go more than one grade ahead (as a PP previously claimed)

We understand completely your points…we are simply taking issue with your thesis. Your kids aren’t profoundly gifted. 99.9% of the kids in CTY aren’t profoundly gifted.

You might be right but there’s no evidence whether the kid is or not. Just like with the OP, yet nobody attacked the OP. What’s up?

Not trying to single you out…so sure transfer it to OP.

I don’t think people realize that if you have a profoundly gifted kid it is like its own category of special needs.

No surprise that you don’t see the words “profoundly gifted and prom king or queen” uttered in the same phrase.

Also, rarely do profoundly gifted kids end up super-successful in life. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg fall into the really, really smart category.

If you had a profoundly gifted kid you wouldn’t be asking for advice on how to accelerate them…you would be asking WTF do I do with my kid that on their own found and just finished an advanced differential equations class and they are 10.

I’m the PP you are referring to and I’m not asking for advice.