What, precisely, am I incorrect about? |
By your logic, the action of any individual is pointless if it runs contrary to the actions of most other members of society. If one believes in this bleak logic, then any social change is impossible. Society is simply frozen in place. I don't share your bleak view. |
Your most important error is mistaking abusiveness for snark. There was nothing in the posts you've been responding to that merited the nasty tone you've been taking. You're also mistaken about individual efforts not being worth consideration. Our collective decision-making is what creates the reality we live in. If fewer people buy tickets on airplanes, fewer flights will be scheduled in the future. If fewer people buy beef, then fewer cattle will be raised in the future. Etc. It matters. I do agree with your point about not selling the house, though, although not the way in which you expressed your thoughts. |
This is exactly why I am unable to be affected by your hysteria. It’s group think. The experts told us all sorts of things about Covid. If I had listened to the experts or the smartest guys in the room here in DC, I would have mostly ruined the last 3 years of my life and the life of my kids. I would have been wearing cloth masks outdoors in July, not attending parties, multiple boosters, my kids doing zoom school for years etc. All to still end up catching Covid anyway. I didn’t listen to the hysteria or the “experts”. It didn’t really make sense to me knowing what we learned from the first cruise ships with sick passengers. I’m a healthy adult without any self-inflicted preexisting conditions. We hauled ass to Florida and lived our best lives. Our kids attended schools, we attended parties, rarely wore masks, ate our just as frequently as before Covid, still went on trips etc. we lived life to its fullest. Of course if we were sick, we stayed home. We ended up catching Covid during omicron like everyone else. We ended up in the same place as the people who gave up years of their life. |
It simply isn’t possible to solve climate change by changing human behavior. It’s like the Covid lockdowns. It won’t make any difference. There needs to be a solution like carbon capture or whatever is a solution that doesn’t require every single country in the world to limit air travel, humans not to use cars, no AC etc. |
Masks aren't just for protecting yourself. Who knows how many people you infected while asymptomatically contagious? You ended up in the same place you would have been, but how many others didn't because of you? |
Lmao. Yes I was absolutely asymptomatically sick -as in NOT SICK- with Covid for years and if I’d worn a mask other people wouldn’t have caught it. Do you even hear yourself? How can you even have lived through the last few years and still think we should have all stayed home and then worn masks? Gosh if only the terrible Floridians had done what everyone in New York did and then we wouldn’t have all ended up catching Covid. Oh wait… |
Hope you’re still wearing your mask. After all - who knows how many people you could affect while asymptomatic, right? If you think we should have worn masks in 2020 then you should still be wearing a mask and for the flu, RSV etc. We were all misled about masking and masking did not keep Covid from spreading. |
Yes, I do wear my mask when in crowded places. We were not misled, although I do think the reaction was stronger than it needed to be in the beginning because they didn't have enough information and wanted to be cautious. Masking has absolutely saved many, many people from death or the misery of long covid. |
The relationship between CO2 and global warming has been understood for a long time, and one doesn't need to look forward -- via projection models -- to understand that warming is happening. Instead, one can look backwards in time at data gathered over the last 60 years by tens of thousands of weather stations operated in many different countries. Using data from these stations, one can quantify recent warming trends. With respect to forward projections, keep in mind that there are many different modeling groups, in many different countries, that work independently, and which have constructed their own models. So I disagree that the modeling is affected by "group think". Very few (if any) of these models have a favorable outlook for the future. In general, their predictions are alarming, and suggest an urgent need to limit our GHG emissions. One can also study other planets in our solar system to gain insight into the relationship between CO2 (and other gases) and atmospheric temperature, and we can test our understanding of atmospheric physics by checking how closely our prediction for a planet's average temperature matches the actually observed temperature (as measured by visiting probes). Predicted temperatures closely match actual temperatures. |
You can be asymptomatic AND sick. A friend of mine didn't know she was infected (without knowing, because she had no symptoms), didn't wear a mask while visiting her father, and he ended up in the hospital after catching it almost certainly from her because he has no interaction with anyone else. He now has ongoing issues he didn't have before getting covid. Many, many others have had similar experiences because of ignorant people like you who think you know it all. Oh, and I never said everyone should have stayed home. We went out with increasing frequency as it became apparent what the risks were, but we make sure to protect others as best we can, especially those with weaker immune systems. |
Seriously? You've lived through the past few years and don't know you can have covid and not know it because you have no symptoms? Ask ANY physician about that opinion. |
I’ve told my husband that I won’t take another cruise. We took one when we didn’t know how polluting they are. He wants to take the kids to see the glaciers, and I’ve said he can do that by himself. Other than that, it’s hard. All of our family lives far away, and in different locations. We usually travel to see them. Giving up travel means hurting important relationships. They’re travelers and will come to us if we don’t go to them, so there’s no savings there. We were learning about vegetarian food before we developed food allergies. We had fewer kids than we wanted. We buy used items or look for high quality. If I buy a couch, I expect to own it in forty years. We wfh and live in less than 3,000 sqft. We filled our home compost bin, but we don’t have time to garden, so it’s just sitting. We signed up for renewable energy. It never fells like it’s enough. I really wish we could have agreed on a smaller house, but it was hard enough to even get something, so I caved. |
The time periods you list above -- 1 minute, 1 year, 1 decade -- are quite short relative to the time scale across which climate change is playing out. Even though climate change is "slow" moving when compared to many other aspects of our lives, that doesn't imply that we are safe, and it doesn't imply that the bus will not go flying off the cliff. In the video below, Carl Sagan does a good job of explaining the time scale of human-induced global warming to Congress, and explaining why action is needed ASAP to prevent disaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp-WiNXH6hI This video was made in 1985, and, unfortunately, we are still on the same dangerous trajectory with respect to CO2 emissions. |
Therapy is the answer for OP, who is not only uncomfortable with themselves but acting out towards other people. |