Do you tip on tax at restaurants?

[Anonymous]

I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

[Anonymous]

No. The whole idea is stupid. Do you tip on the tip?

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Anonymous wrote:We've held the line at 15%, pre-tax, on the food and soft drinks. If there's alcohol, then we'll calculate the tip based on what it would have cost as a soft drink; i.e. iced tea or Coke.

Wow you are extraordinarily cheap. Are you very old? Do you tip to the penny or round up?

We use a tip calculator on our smart device, thank you very much. We don’t believe in supporting tip inflation. A 15% tip is for excellent service and it should be proportional to the basic food being served. If we decide to splurge on steak or lasagna, for example, we usually round down to the cost of a deli sandwich. The service is no different between high end foods and regular ones. Same as with alcohol.

DP. I will agree that you are extraordinarily cheap. That advice was appropriate about 20 years ago, but not today. With inflation exceeding pay increases, more and more waitstaff are having a harder time making ends meet. If you want good wait staff to stay in their jobs, then you need to be increasing the tips.

DP. The way my company works (I suspect yours as well).. they pay good performers well to make sure we stay at our jobs. Maybe the restaurant industry needs this education? Wanna be that champion so "good waitstaff can stay in their jobs"?

What a great idea. Unfortunately, you cannot change the system by just shortchanging the good staff.

That's like saying that rather than your company paying good performers, you are waiting for stockholders to return their checks to the company to disperse amongst the good performers. You can't change the system by cutting tips, having good waitstaff leave the jobs and hoping that the restaurants realize that they have to raise wages for their staff to keep them. It doesn't work that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

I only tip 5-10% at D.C. restaurants because there is already a 10% tax included. For any restaurant adding an additional service charge, I leave no tip at all and – usually – I’ll also complain about a dish or two until the manager removes them from the bill. I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%. The greed in D.C. is unconscionable so I have no qualms about getting comped for a few appetizers or drinks. The entire system needs an overhaul. Restaurant workers aren’t the critical pillars of society they make themselves out to be. They’re mostly peripheral and disposable people that otherwise add no value to society.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

I only tip 5-10% at D.C. restaurants because there is already a 10% tax included. For any restaurant adding an additional service charge, I leave no tip at all and – usually – I’ll also complain about a dish or two until the manager removes them from the bill. I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%. The greed in D.C. is unconscionable so I have no qualms about getting comped for a few appetizers or drinks. The entire system needs an overhaul. Restaurant workers aren’t the critical pillars of society they make themselves out to be. They’re mostly peripheral and disposable people that otherwise add no value to society.

I know you’re not a believer in tips, but I’ll give you one anyway. Stay the hell away from my restaurant…or I’ll slice and dice your cheap a$$ into dog food.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

I only tip 5-10% at D.C. restaurants because there is already a 10% tax included. For any restaurant adding an additional service charge, I leave no tip at all and – usually – I’ll also complain about a dish or two until the manager removes them from the bill. I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%. The greed in D.C. is unconscionable so I have no qualms about getting comped for a few appetizers or drinks. The entire system needs an overhaul. Restaurant workers aren’t the critical pillars of society they make themselves out to be. They’re mostly peripheral and disposable people that otherwise add no value to society.

Do you…not understand the difference between tax and a tip?

[Anonymous]

I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%.

Umm...the tax doesn't go to the waiter. It goes to the city. If you don't like the tax, complain to the city or eat elsewhere. I would. But don't punish your waiter for bad government. If the service is competent, he deserves 15% of the pre-tax total, per American tipping convention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We've held the line at 15%, pre-tax, on the food and soft drinks. If there's alcohol, then we'll calculate the tip based on what it would have cost as a soft drink; i.e. iced tea or Coke.

Wow you are extraordinarily cheap. Are you very old? Do you tip to the penny or round up?

We use a tip calculator on our smart device, thank you very much. We don’t believe in supporting tip inflation. A 15% tip is for excellent service and it should be proportional to the basic food being served. If we decide to splurge on steak or lasagna, for example, we usually round down to the cost of a deli sandwich. The service is no different between high end foods and regular ones. Same as with alcohol.

Not that we needed confirmation, but the bolded is very much "tell me you're not very smart without telling me you're not very smart."

It's rare that someone outs themselves as dumb, cheap and an a-hole in so few words. Congrats, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or we don’t increase tips and we force the restaurant owners, many of them wealthy investors, to raise wages across the board, which will be a lot more equitable.

Studies have proven that gender, race, and physical attractiveness all affect tip percentages. I’m not looking to further such discrimination.

Ah, the "I am taking a moral stand" fig leaf in an effort to cover for being a cheap SOB. The classic gambit.

[Anonymous]

No, assuming I can find the pre-tax total. Some restaurants are sneaky that way, they don’t leave the check when the present you with the credit card slip.

However I always tip 20%. That’s the expectation. Some of y’all on this thread, if not just trolling are awful people.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

I only tip 5-10% at D.C. restaurants because there is already a 10% tax included. For any restaurant adding an additional service charge, I leave no tip at all and – usually – I’ll also complain about a dish or two until the manager removes them from the bill. I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%. The greed in D.C. is unconscionable so I have no qualms about getting comped for a few appetizers or drinks. The entire system needs an overhaul. Restaurant workers aren’t the critical pillars of society they make themselves out to be. They’re mostly peripheral and disposable people that otherwise add no value to society.

For the record, you are a complete piece of shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've held the line at 15%, pre-tax, on the food and soft drinks. If there's alcohol, then we'll calculate the tip based on what it would have cost as a soft drink; i.e. iced tea or Coke.

Wow you are extraordinarily cheap. Are you very old? Do you tip to the penny or round up?

We use a tip calculator on our smart device, thank you very much. We don’t believe in supporting tip inflation. A 15% tip is for excellent service and it should be proportional to the basic food being served. If we decide to splurge on steak or lasagna, for example, we usually round down to the cost of a deli sandwich. The service is no different between high end foods and regular ones. Same as with alcohol.

Are you stupid or a troll? This is such nonsense. You have no business going to restaurants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t penny pinch on restaurant workers. I tip in thr total amount. I couldn’t tell you the last time I looked at the Tex line item. It’s irrelevant. I just take the total bill, figure out what 10% is and double it. Done. It I can’t afford an extra $5 then maybe I should be cooking hamburger helper at home.

Exactly! What's hard about this? I really am saddened to learn there are so many cheap, nasty people who think it's their right to reinvent the restaurant industry by withholding a bit of cash from service workers. I really don't understand why they even go to restaurants since they so strongly disagree with the system. Just to punish people, I guess.

I'm not just referring to tipping on tax but to all these anti-tipping threads.

I only tip 5-10% at D.C. restaurants because there is already a 10% tax included. For any restaurant adding an additional service charge, I leave no tip at all and – usually – I’ll also complain about a dish or two until the manager removes them from the bill. I mean, 10% tax + 18% SC is way more than the customary 15%. The greed in D.C. is unconscionable so I have no qualms about getting comped for a few appetizers or drinks. The entire system needs an overhaul. Restaurant workers aren’t the critical pillars of society they make themselves out to be. They’re mostly peripheral and disposable people that otherwise add no value to society.

Please don’t feed the troll. No one, and I mean absolutely no one, could be this obtuse. This poster is just trying to rattle the cage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach my kids to move the decimal point on the total, multiply by 2, and round up. That's the baseline tip.

For all of you who insist on pretax tips, if the tax is 10%, the difference on a $100 bill is $2. If you go out for a $500 meal, the difference is $10.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, but it is the principle involved, and as you say, it doesn't make that much difference. And I was a waiter and bartender through college and much of graduate school.