Top schools where sports *don’t matter*

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, if you allow yourself to look at the bigger picture, having a school that focuses on sports is better for the entire school. As others mentioned sports=donor money. You can't avoid this connection and its importance to have an alumni network available to help YOUR child find a job, provide athletic centers for YOUR child to exercise, etc. The thing that is so amazing about colleges is finding your way and what is enjoyable to you as an individual. This could be sports, this could be greek life or just for academic pursuits but lumping athletics at a school as some sort of pariah is incredibly short-sighted. It also seems you are making some big decisions on behalf of your child that are only a reflection of your beliefs. Let them decide what they want to experience for their college years.

Must be nice to be so rich that you can pay for your kids to just have fun and party for four years.

Please elaborate. Athletics=Partying? Allowing my child to determine the environment they feel most comfortable in= rich? Not following your idiotic comment.

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Anonymous wrote:Just looking to collect info, not rehash the role of athletics in higher Ed.

Which well-known schools give no edge to athletes in admissions? Thank you.

I would say that Chicago, WashU and Emory don’t pay much attention to athletics. Chicago was a big football school until around 1940, when it dropped football.

The above is incorrect. Absolutely incorrect.

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This poster knows nothing about the University of Chicago.  It accepted an athlete with the score of 1200 on the SAT a few years ago.  The athlete said that himself.

People are conflating two issues. One is help for athletes in admissions, which Chicago definitely does (they have a pretty strong D3 athletic department) versus sports mattering on campus and being a significant part of campus like (at Chicago sports are not very important on campus and are not well attended by students).

Even if these recruited athletes get in to the school, they will need a lot of support to stay in school. I'm sure its not all roses for them to be in over their heads at a school trying to place at a high level in their sport. And what if this pathway is the only pathway to a student? Shouldn't they be allowed access to higher education ?

Chicago and MIT are similar in the admissions edge you gain as a recruited athlete. Sports on campus are a little more important at MIT than Chicago, though still not central to campus life.

The Million dollar question with respect to sports and a place like Chicago/MIT is whether Sports can basically replace all or nearly all ECs. Correct that you still need high grades and high test scores, but even to be a strong enough athlete to get noticed by these schools, you are likely playing your sport fairly intensively which does not allow much time for other ECs. W

Not really. There are tons of recruited athletes who are also in student government or who write for the paper. Community service is expected. These kids have had busy schedules since early elementary school. The ones who are good students (i.e. the ones who will play at Chicago/MIT) have learned time management skills early on, and the difference in the amount of time that a 7th grader and a 10th playing very high level sports train is not very much.

Apparently none of you read the post where an athlete attended University of Chicago with average GPAs and 1200 on the SAT. You can easily google his name and watch it on youtube because that's exactly what he said.

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Spellman College has no sports teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Just looking to collect info, not rehash the role of athletics in higher Ed.

Which well-known schools give no edge to athletes in admissions? Thank you.

I would say that Chicago, WashU and Emory don’t pay much attention to athletics. Chicago was a big football school until around 1940, when it dropped football.

The above is incorrect. Absolutely incorrect.

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This poster knows nothing about the University of Chicago.  It accepted an athlete with the score of 1200 on the SAT a few years ago.  The athlete said that himself.

People are conflating two issues. One is help for athletes in admissions, which Chicago definitely does (they have a pretty strong D3 athletic department) versus sports mattering on campus and being a significant part of campus like (at Chicago sports are not very important on campus and are not well attended by students).

Chicago and MIT are similar in the admissions edge you gain as a recruited athlete. Sports on campus are a little more important at MIT than Chicago, though still not central to campus life.

The Million dollar question with respect to sports and a place like Chicago/MIT is whether Sports can basically replace all or nearly all ECs. Correct that you still need high grades and high test scores, but even to be a strong enough athlete to get noticed by these schools, you are likely playing your sport fairly intensively which does not allow much time for other ECs. W

Not really. There are tons of recruited athletes who are also in student government or who write for the paper. Community service is expected. These kids have had busy schedules since early elementary school. The ones who are good students (i.e. the ones who will play at Chicago/MIT) have learned time management skills early on, and the difference in the amount of time that a 7th grader and a 10th playing very high level sports train is not very much.

Apparently none of you read the post where an athlete attended University of Chicago with average GPAs and 1200 on the SAT. You can easily google his name and watch it on youtube because that's exactly what he said.

The kid transferred from UVA.

It doesn't change the fact that his SAT is 1200, not good enough for Ivies but good for University of Chicago. What does it say about the University of Chicagol?

It says they wanted to win a d3 tennis championship so they bent the knee

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Anonymous wrote:Just looking to collect info, not rehash the role of athletics in higher Ed.

Which well-known schools give no edge to athletes in admissions? Thank you.

I would say that Chicago, WashU and Emory don’t pay much attention to athletics. Chicago was a big football school until around 1940, when it dropped football.

Wrong. All 3 schools mentioned recruited my DC very hard as a recruited athlete.

Thanks for that info.

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Anonymous wrote:Just looking to collect info, not rehash the role of athletics in higher Ed.

Which well-known schools give no edge to athletes in admissions? Thank you.

I would say that Chicago, WashU and Emory don’t pay much attention to athletics. Chicago was a big football school until around 1940, when it dropped football.

Wrong. All 3 schools mentioned recruited my DC very hard as a recruited athlete.

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Anonymous wrote:Just looking to collect info, not rehash the role of athletics in higher Ed.

Which well-known schools give no edge to athletes in admissions? Thank you.

I would say that Chicago, WashU and Emory don’t pay much attention to athletics. Chicago was a big football school until around 1940, when it dropped football.

Wrong. All 3 schools mentioned recruited my DC very hard as a recruited athlete.

Mine was recruited by Wash U but he still had to have high grades and scores and in rigorous classes. The coach asked about the 1 B he’d gotten in high school.

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Why would anyone want to go to a school like that? Sports bring people together, especially a great football team that the student body can rally around. And there are plenty of schools with dominant sports teams AND great academics like the University of Georgia, GO DAWGS!