Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT

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Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.

Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.

What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?

PP is lying. She was just the nerd of the group and nothing more. I remember in “a pup named scooby doo”, she carried a giant laptop in her purse. But never any signs of rainbow flags anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline

+1.

I know the show paired Fred and Daphne, but when i was a kid I don't remember them being a couple. It's a cartoon. for kids. Just let it be a cartoon for kids without any romantic relationships.

And I'm also going to spout the unpopular opinion that LGBTIA is being overdone/oversaturation. Especially the transgender piece. It's a small slice of the population. Sort of unrelated, but it's the same thing behind Drag Queen story hour - why?

Agree. No problem with people who are LGBTQ but yes it feels frickin everywhere particularly trans / pronoun issues.

Again, can you name a single major children’s movie or tv show with an openly transgender character?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg, brunettes, you are not lacking in heterosexual representation. There are plenty of brunettes with glasses of the “sexy librarian” stereotype. There’s nothing stereotypical about a brown haired woman with glasses and a mini skirt being a lesbian. She’s not a butch or masculine woman.

Where are you getting "sexy librarian" for Velma? Brown hair and glasses does not automatically mean sexy librarian any more than it means queer. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg, brunettes, you are not lacking in heterosexual representation. There are plenty of brunettes with glasses of the “sexy librarian” stereotype. There’s nothing stereotypical about a brown haired woman with glasses and a mini skirt being a lesbian. She’s not a butch or masculine woman.

Where are you getting "sexy librarian" for Velma? Brown hair and glasses does not automatically mean sexy librarian any more than it means queer. Bizarre.

I’m not. I’m saying brunette with glasses is more of a sexy librarian stereotype than a lesbian stereotype. Velma is neither.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved the show as a kid and never once wondered or thought about the sexual identity of the characters. I don’t understand the need to define them now in the show- can’t they just solve mysteries and eat Scooby snacks?

For representation. Representation matters more than you'll ever know if you're part of a marginalized community.

I'm a lesbian. I grew up without any gay TV characters for most of my childhood. It just reinforced the idea that gay = bad and that homosexuality should be hidden. Ellen came out in 1994 when I was 12. I knew at 12 that I was 100% different than my peers because my crushes weren't on boys in my class, but on my best female friends. I felt so ashamed and broken because I was different and I didn't understand why. I thought gay only applied to men. It never occurred to me that a woman could also be gay or that I was gay. I remember my parents discussing Ellen's coming out at the dinner table and explaining it to me and siblings and as we asked questions, and it was like a literal lightbulb went off for me... holy sh!t! I liked girls the way Ellen liked girls and that meant I was a lesbian. I wanted to cry when I realized I wasn't broken as a person, I was just different and simply didn't know the proper name because I'd never been taught.

But then all the backlash happened (and honestly, not everything my parents had to say about Ellen was great, either), and again, I knew that I had to keep that newfound information about myself secret. Because all around me I saw people hating on her for being who she was as a person.

Even when there was a lesbian couple on a TV show, it was never really the main character or the main storyline. The relationships were often played out with a negative connotation, too... gay character spontaneously planting a kiss on a straight female co-worker, gay character spontaneously planting a kiss on a straight female friend, a seemingly straight young character escaping an abusive relationship into the arms of a much older lesbian character, married wife & mom getting kissed by gay friend, etc.

Straight people had tons of happy couples on TV and gays had 10-minute blurbs of messy relationships, secretive relationships, and lots of spontaneous kisses on (non-consenting) parties.

So in your mind, what % of the time should a cartoon show be lgbtqia? What % of the characters? What % of the school assemblies? % books read to classroom? % of the plot line or characters or main characters?

> 0%

Why is that so hard to understand? Would you be ok with 100% LGBTQ characters on all shows? You seem to be fine with 100% straight characters. What about 100% white male characters? 100% Muslim? Or must all characters check the boxes that make you comfortable?

You aren’t answering then question. What %? Commensurate with the global or USA surveyed population of trans, lesbian, gay, black, Jewish, etc?

Or shall we keep doing this 1 or 2 of each thing or rotating around which minority gets recast as the main character?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of us dream about the day when our kids see a gay character on TV and think nothing of it. Just like they think nothing of seeing characters with different skin colors and physical abilities. But that only happens if they actually do see gay characters on TV.

Do you censor children’s shows that have black characters or characters who use wheelchairs - until they can “understand” those differences?

Or are those shows OK because you’re not afraid they’ll turn your kid black or paraplegic?

. Can’t have that and actual MonkeyPox truths can we?

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Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.

She looks pretty hetro hot here…

It takes a special kind of idiot to think you've disproved her queerness by pointing out she's pretty.

DP. I agree with you, but then why are so many saying they knew she (or, say, Peppermint Patty) were gay all along? What’s the tell if not their physical appearance?

She has the bisexual bob

What? Now because half the swim team has bibs they all have ti explain their not Bi??

or maybe they are?

anyway it's not my rule: https://www.google.com/search?q=bisexual+bob&sxsrf=ALiCzsahDifhhYs0loLT97ViQWjRCOrclw:1665001699496&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjm9OTW9sn6AhVSTjABHbPDCS8Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1311&bih=658&dpr=2

what? Now one can’t have short hair, it signals bio female is non-binary?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline

+1.

I know the show paired Fred and Daphne, but when i was a kid I don't remember them being a couple. It's a cartoon. for kids. Just let it be a cartoon for kids without any romantic relationships.

And I'm also going to spout the unpopular opinion that LGBTIA is being overdone/oversaturation. Especially the transgender piece. It's a small slice of the population. Sort of unrelated, but it's the same thing behind Drag Queen story hour - why?

In the same vein, lesbians make up at least 10% of the population. Do more than 10% of the movies your kids watch have a lesbian character? Is there a reason that a single lesbian character upsets you so much?

Can you name a single major children’s movie with an openly transgender character? How is zero movies overrepresentation, exactly?

Lol. Is that from the lesbians.org self survey?

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Duh.

In other news, Bert and Ernie weren’t just “roommates.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, add this to the list of things we won’t be watching.

Oh no!

[Anonymous]

Anyone who thinks Fred and his cravat is straight is out of their mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.

No need for Revisionalist re-writing the narrative. This is just LGBTQIA2+ Activist pandering in polarized America.

You people are soooooo threatened. It’s fun to watch.

It’s progress. It’s happening. It won’t stop. Cope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who’s next? Vanity Smurf??

He was sooooooo gay (notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Omg, brunettes, you are not lacking in heterosexual representation. There are plenty of brunettes with glasses of the “sexy librarian” stereotype. There’s nothing stereotypical about a brown haired woman with glasses and a mini skirt being a lesbian. She’s not a butch or masculine woman.

Ever seen the episode of 30 Rock where Jack sets Liz up with a woman because he assumes she’s a lesbian? I’ve seen many posters on DCUM suspect that Tina Fey is clearly gay, presumably because…why, exactly?

Probably because she’s not very feminine? The same reason there’s running jokes that she’s not a woman. She serves as best man at more than one wedding. She can grow a mustache, she always says she’s really a girl and “that doctor was a quack.” It’s not because she has brown hair and glasses.

There are plenty of feminine lesbians. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline

+1.

I know the show paired Fred and Daphne, but when i was a kid I don't remember them being a couple. It's a cartoon. for kids. Just let it be a cartoon for kids without any romantic relationships.

And I'm also going to spout the unpopular opinion that LGBTIA is being overdone/oversaturation. Especially the transgender piece. It's a small slice of the population. Sort of unrelated, but it's the same thing behind Drag Queen story hour - why?

Agree. No problem with people who are LGBTQ but yes it feels frickin everywhere particularly trans / pronoun issues.

Again, can you name a single major children’s movie or tv show with an openly transgender character?

She-ra princess of power. You can google too. Apparently there are transgender cartoon characters. It’s rather stupid to bring grown up issues into a kids world.