athletic pre-read asking for writing sample

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Ryan Fitzpatrick and James Blake

Jeremy Lin!

Now how many pros from unc? Don't even bother....there are hundreds.

[Anonymous]

Meaning that for the most part...ivy league, nescac, uaa, and some.others are used by athletes for the most part to bargain their athletic talent to the schools programs in exchange for the educational benefits.

This athletes in other leagues ....the scholarship money, the athletic program, the access to the pros might loom much much larger.

It's all fine... every student has their path but pay attention to your student and choose wisely based on what provides the best ultimate outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Ryan Fitzpatrick and James Blake

Jeremy Lin!

Now how many pros from unc? Don't even bother....there are hundreds.

And none of them graduated. Ba dup dup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Umm, these people might disagree:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Harvard/22

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meaning that for the most part...ivy league, nescac, uaa, and some.others are used by athletes for the most part to bargain their athletic talent to the schools programs in exchange for the educational benefits.

This athletes in other leagues ....the scholarship money, the athletic program, the access to the pros might loom much much larger.

It's all fine... every student has their path but pay attention to your student and choose wisely based on what provides the best ultimate outcome.

absolutely!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Umm, these people might disagree:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Harvard/22

ppl

I don't think that makes the point you think. I am only willing to take a glance but it looks like a list of about 50 years and 50 players. I don't know the hockey college factories but I bet there are colleges with far more hockey pros coming thicker and faster.

In any case, if Harvard will let in athletes over others than take advantage if you can. Makes no sense at all but nothing any of us can do about it except understand it and exploit it if possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Since they aren’t getting the common app essay….

They will be getting the common app essay with the application.

Which doesn't get submitted for months. The preread process asks an athlete to commit earlier, in return for an assurance of admittance.

There is zero commitment with a pre read.

The preread process leads to them asking the athlete to apply ED, that's asking them to commit.

So PP’d post stands. There is zero commitment with a preread .

They do pre-reads on multiple kids then offer them in order of preference. Pre-read means nothing unless you are their top choice, and admissions gives the nod as an A/B or C tier

Someone I know on Facebook posted about being so proud their kid being given the green light for a "pre-read" for her sport at a liberal arts college. And hundreds of people congratulated her so I assumed it was a sure thing.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't say they mean "nothing" - a pre-read means DC has done enough to garner some interest. But agree that it is far from a sure thing and many pre-reads result in the message that DC needs to get in on his own and then come talk to the coach.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since they aren’t getting the common app essay….

They will be getting the common app essay with the application.

Which doesn't get submitted for months. The preread process asks an athlete to commit earlier, in return for an assurance of admittance.

There is zero commitment with a pre read.

The preread process leads to them asking the athlete to apply ED, that's asking them to commit.

So PP’d post stands. There is zero commitment with a preread .

They do pre-reads on multiple kids then offer them in order of preference. Pre-read means nothing unless you are their top choice, and admissions gives the nod as an A/B or C tier

Someone I know on Facebook posted about being so proud their kid being given the green light for a "pre-read" for her sport at a liberal arts college. And hundreds of people congratulated her so I assumed it was a sure thing.

It depends. Athletes get different levels of support at these high academic d3s.
But the coaches in my experience, are careful to never guarantee admission which is controlled by the admissions department.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since they aren’t getting the common app essay….

They will be getting the common app essay with the application.

Which doesn't get submitted for months. The preread process asks an athlete to commit earlier, in return for an assurance of admittance.

There is zero commitment with a pre read.

The preread process leads to them asking the athlete to apply ED, that's asking them to commit.

So PP’d post stands. There is zero commitment with a preread .

They do pre-reads on multiple kids then offer them in order of preference. Pre-read means nothing unless you are their top choice, and admissions gives the nod as an A/B or C tier

Someone I know on Facebook posted about being so proud their kid being given the green light for a "pre-read" for her sport at a liberal arts college. And hundreds of people congratulated her so I assumed it was a sure thing.

It depends. Athletes get different levels of support at these high academic d3s.
But the coaches in my experience, are careful to never guarantee admission which is controlled by the admissions department.

They might not guaranty it, but they can use words that leave the inexperienced athletes with the impression they are guaranteed. For example, our DC was told by Nescac coach as part of a pre-read, “I’d love to have you on the team and I’ve never seen any athlete with your stats not be accepted to this college.” Spouse and I were left the unpleasant job of explaining to DC that these words are pretty meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since they aren’t getting the common app essay….

They will be getting the common app essay with the application.

Which doesn't get submitted for months. The preread process asks an athlete to commit earlier, in return for an assurance of admittance.

There is zero commitment with a pre read.

The preread process leads to them asking the athlete to apply ED, that's asking them to commit.

So PP’d post stands. There is zero commitment with a preread .

They do pre-reads on multiple kids then offer them in order of preference. Pre-read means nothing unless you are their top choice, and admissions gives the nod as an A/B or C tier

Someone I know on Facebook posted about being so proud their kid being given the green light for a "pre-read" for her sport at a liberal arts college. And hundreds of people congratulated her so I assumed it was a sure thing.

It depends. Athletes get different levels of support at these high academic d3s.
But the coaches in my experience, are careful to never guarantee admission which is controlled by the admissions department.

They might not guaranty it, but they can use words that leave the inexperienced athletes with the impression they are guaranteed. For example, our DC was told by Nescac coach as part of a pre-read, “I’d love to have you on the team and I’ve never seen any athlete with your stats not be accepted to this college.” Spouse and I were left the unpleasant job of explaining to DC that these words are pretty meaningless.

The main thing to understand is if your athlete is getting one of the slots or is just desired. A coach may have 1 slot, or 2 or 5 or whatever....but if you are clear that you have one of those...that is much more of a boost with admissions than not. You need to ask this question to the coach and be absolutely sure you understand if your student has a slot or not.

[Anonymous]

Any advice on how to do the ":resume" for a preread?