Jamie Chung used a surrogate because being pregnant might hurt her career

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Anonymous wrote:It’s wild that people on this board are saying she should have had babies in her 20s…before she had a partner and a career. Her children, however they were conceived, will have much better lives being born to healthy, functional, and financial stable parents.

Here's a novel idea... put concerted and thoughtful effort into settling down and meeting a life partner. You don't do that on freaking MTV and acting a mess in Hollywood for 20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with a woman using a surrogate because she's unable to carry her own baby for health-related reasons. But I find it distasteful for a woman to use a surrogate for vanity or career reasons. It just reeks of selfishness and narcissism.

+1 and this is why I feel her "PPD" is attention-seeking as well.

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I don’t care how others have their children.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s wild that people on this board are saying she should have had babies in her 20s…before she had a partner and a career. Her children, however they were conceived, will have much better lives being born to healthy, functional, and financial stable parents.

Here's a novel idea... put concerted and thoughtful effort into settling down and meeting a life partner. You don't do that on freaking MTV and acting a mess in Hollywood for 20 years.

DP. Or: how about not. If you were secure in your life choices you wouldn't need everyone else to make the same ones to validate you.

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Anonymous wrote:So back to Chung’s actual statement - ‘pregnancy puts your life on hold for two years’. Agree or disagree?

For a working woman whose career is dependent on her physical appearance and literal ability to be active and present on set - I totally agree. I’d say the same if she was a neurosurgeon trying to get ahead or a trial lawyer.

I have zero issue with surrogacy and don't judge how other people choose to have kids, but I disagree.

For me one of the best things about pregnancy and childbirth was that it introduced me to some different metrics for evaluating my life. Like it really upended my previous ideas of what it meant to be productive, or to be successful. I still work and have a career and still very much care about my career. In some ways more because now I'm setting an example for my kid and I want her to see me working and being respected and accomplishing professional goals.

But I know have the whole other metric by which I evaluate where I'm at in life that has nothing to do with financial gain, being respected by colleagues, etc. Like I can spend a couple hours with my daughter where we just tell jokes and spend some time in nature and she tells me about some friend drama at school. And I feel fulfilled and happy and full in a way that I literally never feel satisfied by work. And that started for me with pregnancy, with realizing that I could do something worthwhile by simply eating well and getting enough sleep while my body made a human. Breastfeeding made me realize that simply feeding a child could be this deeply satisfying, rewarding activity. The whole experience made me more patient, more grateful, more willing to accept a slower pace and simple satisfactions.

I don't feel that pregnancy put my life on hold. It introduced me to another way of living and thinking about life. This will sound dramatic, but pregnancy made me feel like I'd gained actual wisdom, not just knowledge, for the first time in my life.

(This is not a knock on people who become parents without being pregnant, at all -- I know for a fact that the process of adoption, for instance, can be similarly transformative in different ways and my DH found a way to parenthood without being pregnant. Not knocking how other people arrive at this point, just explaining that for me, pregnancy was instrumental in changing how I thought about my life and the world and I would never say that process was "putting my life on hold." It was instead a critical and meaningful time in my life.)

+1 PP that's a beautiful way to put it.

It's sad to think that doing this amazing thing is "putting your life on hold" esp when frankly most ppl aren't accomplishing amazing professional impactful things anyway.

I say this as someone who has always worked and does value my career but nothing compares to the kids part.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

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Anonymous wrote:It’s wild that people on this board are saying she should have had babies in her 20s…before she had a partner and a career. Her children, however they were conceived, will have much better lives being born to healthy, functional, and financial stable parents.

Here's a novel idea... put concerted and thoughtful effort into settling down and meeting a life partner. You don't do that on freaking MTV and acting a mess in Hollywood for 20 years.

She was briefly on a reality show. The New Yorker’s Jia Tolentino was also on a reality show once. It doesn’t say anything about a person. And how exactly did she “act a mess”? She is an Asian American actress who had trouble finding good roles in Hollywood, which is not exactly diverse. She was very good when she had bigger starring roles in Eden, Lovecraft Country and Already Tomorrow in Hong Kong.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

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I have literally never heard of this woman. I looked her up, she was on One Tree Hill, wasn't that like 20 years ago. It doesn't sound like she has a career to even put on hold.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

BS, I had two women colleagues who had 2 under 30. One got her professional license to practice architecture before having babies. The other began cracking at the exam during her 2nd pregnancy - and passed them all in short order. Not all mothers under 30 are uneducated and unfocused.

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I know who she is but she definitely does not work enough to need a surrogate. I’m surprised that her and her husband even make enough money to justify that expense. I watched a few episodes of his show how to make it in America and haven’t seen him in anything sense. They are both very meh actors.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with a woman using a surrogate because she's unable to carry her own baby for health-related reasons. But I find it distasteful for a woman to use a surrogate for vanity or career reasons. It just reeks of selfishness and narcissism.

Nooooobody cares what you think. It’s irrelevant.

You think it’s ok to live in a society where women rent their wombs to send their kids to college? Wow. It’s so funny how comfortable women are exploiting other women.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

She’s worth $5 million. How much were you worth at 39?

At 39 I was married, with 3 children (conceived naturally), and we had a pre-inheritance net worth of I guess $1-2 million plus two pensions.

She’s also married and their combined net worth is $8 million, so they are worth 8 times what you were at their age, they have 2 children and can afford to have many more via surrogacy if they’d like. And since she didn’t go through pregnancy, her body is still in good condition.

Scream all you want about how your kids are better for being conceived “naturally” but no one cares except you. Her outcome is better than yours - more money, more potential for more kids, a better body.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

Cope. You’re projecting.

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The video interactions make it pretty obvious she can't stand her husband.