Why do parents go through great lengths to get their children into AAP?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see why parents are so judgmental about other parents who want their kids in AAP. The same parents will have kids who do multiple travel sports. My kid isn’t up for the challenge of travel sports. But they are up for additional academic challenges. If I see that, then I will try to get them in to AAP. I wouldn’t go crazy but I did submit a parent referral, even though my kid was in pool. I don’t see it as any different than a more challenging sports environment.

Because deep down inside, jocks and parents of jocks have always been jealous of the nerds in American culture. That is one thing that really distinguishes America from other countries is how much we deride those who like school and are academically successful. Nerds aren't subjected to ridicule in other countries like they are here.

Because Americans are easily molded by the mass media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There really should be a middle track for average/above average kids without behavior issues.

That's called gen ed.

NP no way. Gen ed is filled with behavior issues.

DP

And kids who can't read.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are parents so hel! bent on getting their children into AAP?

one word segregation

a holdover from the old South mainly

[Anonymous]

if there is a better option for something why wouldn't you want it for your child

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Anonymous wrote:Do that many people really go to great lengths, or is it a DCUM thing?

I think it could depend on the area. Some parents are more competitive than others. I had a neighbor pass me down a huge stack of worksheets and workbooks she used to prepare her child. I have a friend who is older and she stressed the importance. She said to fight it if my child didn’t get in. I also have talked to numerous parents who have gotten tutors for their children while in elementary school ( and their students were already performing well). I also know numerous parents that can care less.

In my current neighborhood people move here specifically for the schools. We have the top schools in the state. However, I’ve found it really depends on the teacher. My daughter had a new teacher that was horrible. She even told the parents that she applied and got the job so here she is. She didn’t seem to have a real interest in teaching. She would come to school and tell the kids she was too tired to teach today and would pop on a movie or let them play games.

I was in a similar program. The schools weren’t that great. I was able to thrive by being with like minded students.

It's a travesty that AAP demographics do not reflect the County demographics for blacks and Hispanic students. If TJ is headed in that direction, AAP certainly should make more progress or just have one system.

Unbelievable right? AAP should make progress. If we have one system and there is no equal distribution in the difficult math classes then we should cancel the class. Math should make more progress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do that many people really go to great lengths, or is it a DCUM thing?

I think it could depend on the area. Some parents are more competitive than others. I had a neighbor pass me down a huge stack of worksheets and workbooks she used to prepare her child. I have a friend who is older and she stressed the importance. She said to fight it if my child didn’t get in. I also have talked to numerous parents who have gotten tutors for their children while in elementary school ( and their students were already performing well). I also know numerous parents that can care less.

In my current neighborhood people move here specifically for the schools. We have the top schools in the state. However, I’ve found it really depends on the teacher. My daughter had a new teacher that was horrible. She even told the parents that she applied and got the job so here she is. She didn’t seem to have a real interest in teaching. She would come to school and tell the kids she was too tired to teach today and would pop on a movie or let them play games.

I was in a similar program. The schools weren’t that great. I was able to thrive by being with like minded students.

It's a travesty that AAP demographics do not reflect the County demographics for blacks and Hispanic students. If TJ is headed in that direction, AAP certainly should make more progress or just have one system.

This is why I think AAP should be open to all. If you can keep up and make an A/B in the course, you get to stay. I feel like no one is pushing gen-ed kids to do better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There really should be a middle track for average/above average kids without behavior issues.

That's called gen ed.

NP no way. Gen ed is filled with behavior issues.

The kids with the worst behaviors are in self-contained classes. Gen ed is the middle group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There really should be a middle track for average/above average kids without behavior issues.

That's called gen ed.

NP no way. Gen ed is filled with behavior issues.

The kids with the worst behaviors are in self-contained classes. Gen ed is the middle group.

Not at our school. Yes, there is a class with the worst behaviors all grouped together, but the remaining spots are filled with kids who do not have any behavioral issues. How would you feel if your well behaved, academically above average kid was randomly assigned to that classroom? With no chance of meaningful differentiation and being daily subjected to whatever methods teacher has to use to keep the kids in check? This is what gened is like in some schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Because she's really good at math and I wanted her in the advanced math class. Anything less than level IV is no guarantee of principal placement so I forced their hand and got her into Level IV even though her LA abilities are average.

Please explain how you "forced their hand." Seems implausable.

By...getting her in AAP. That's the question that was asked. "Why do parents go through great lengths to get their children into AAP?" Because I wanted my kid in advanced math. And it wasn't a guarantee. But being in LIV, makes advanced math a guarantee. I'm not saying I forced them to put her in AAP. I'm saying me getting her in AAP made it so she'd have to be put in the advanced math class and it wouldn't be left up to principal placement every year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because she's really good at math and I wanted her in the advanced math class. Anything less than level IV is no guarantee of principal placement so I forced their hand and got her into Level IV even though her LA abilities are average.

Please explain how you "forced their hand." Seems implausable.

By...getting her in AAP. That's the question that was asked. "Why do parents go through great lengths to get their children into AAP?" Because I wanted my kid in advanced math. And it wasn't a guarantee. But being in LIV, makes advanced math a guarantee. I'm not saying I forced them to put her in AAP. I'm saying me getting her in AAP made it so she'd have to be put in the advanced math class and it wouldn't be left up to principal placement every year.

Yup. We deferred AAP but we know that DS will be in Advanced Math unless we pull him from Advanced Math because of his status.

[Anonymous]

My very honest answer is peer group. My child is in fifth-grade now, and I have zero regrets and seeking out AAP. Having a strong peer group at this age (any age ...) is so important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There really should be a middle track for average/above average kids without behavior issues.

That's called gen ed.

NP no way. Gen ed is filled with behavior issues.

The kids with the worst behaviors are in self-contained classes. Gen ed is the middle group.

No way. No teacher can handle that. Each class is selected to have a mix of different types of kids.

[Anonymous]

So they can live through their kids and don't have to focus on their own shitty lives and stupid husband who farts on the couch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because Gen Ed is really slow.

And some of them are (gasp) poor! Their homes cost less than $2 million dollars!!!
I don't want Ashton and Peyton to mingle with the poors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do that many people really go to great lengths, or is it a DCUM thing?

I think it could depend on the area. Some parents are more competitive than others. I had a neighbor pass me down a huge stack of worksheets and workbooks she used to prepare her child. I have a friend who is older and she stressed the importance. She said to fight it if my child didn’t get in. I also have talked to numerous parents who have gotten tutors for their children while in elementary school ( and their students were already performing well). I also know numerous parents that can care less.

In my current neighborhood people move here specifically for the schools. We have the top schools in the state. However, I’ve found it really depends on the teacher. My daughter had a new teacher that was horrible. She even told the parents that she applied and got the job so here she is. She didn’t seem to have a real interest in teaching. She would come to school and tell the kids she was too tired to teach today and would pop on a movie or let them play games.

I was in a similar program. The schools weren’t that great. I was able to thrive by being with like minded students.

It's a travesty that AAP demographics do not reflect the County demographics for blacks and Hispanic students. If TJ is headed in that direction, AAP certainly should make more progress or just have one system.

This is why I think AAP should be open to all. If you can keep up and make an A/B in the course, you get to stay. I feel like no one is pushing gen-ed kids to do better.

That would be perfect. Can you imagine the protests though if kids get removed?