Secret Societies - Eating Clubs, Finals Clubs etc. at Elite Universities.?

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Anonymous wrote:They aren't good people at UVa, but they will give money to the school and will make $$$.

I hope this is sarcasm. Please go read “Secret Societies at UVA” in wiki

This keeps getting posted but the Wikipedia article describes a bunch of self serving clubs and some recent philanthropy.
It looks like UVA had some elitist societies at the start and much later some people started making their own societies to make it a trend.
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The Seven Society recently gave 777,777.77 to the university for faculty teaching. Yes, 777,000 dollars. Another member recently gave 40 million. Can you do that? No, you just want to tear down.

Read here to learn what just the anonymous philanthropic group, The Seven Society, has given to UVA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Society

[Anonymous]

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I still don’t get the purpose? To get to know each other well? Why does the club need to be secret to do that?

These are like mini Masonic lodges. Many of the people in them might be liberal or progressive Democratic, but they’re based on aristocratic principles and simply aren’t democratic at all.

These groups are supposed to be made of people who can trust each other’s with their lives, raise money for the college or charity, run the government, and fight bad guys.

When good guys belong, maybe they sometimes do important, wonderful things.

When bad people belong to them, they no doubt do and cover up all sorts of terrible things.

See the movie The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon. Yale, Skull and Bones, William Donovan, the creation of the CIA. George HW Bush is an example of this background.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I still don’t get the purpose? To get to know each other well? Why does the club need to be secret to do that?

These are like mini Masonic lodges. Many of the people in them might be liberal or progressive Democratic, but they’re based on aristocratic principles and simply aren’t democratic at all.

These groups are supposed to be made of people who can trust each other’s with their lives, raise money for the college or charity, run the government, and fight bad guys.

When good guys belong, maybe they sometimes do important, wonderful things.

When bad people belong to them, they no doubt do and cover up all sorts of terrible things.

See the movie The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon. Yale, Skull and Bones, William Donovan, the creation of the CIA. George HW Bush is an example of this background.

But S&B is not secret. It does not hide its members' identities. The purpose of the group is networking and socializing, not anonymous philanthropy like the ones at UVA.

[Anonymous]

I went to MIT we didn't have that other than informal groups that pulled off hacks.

Friends that studied at Cambridge on study abroad encountered these. My friend was in the Legless Birds club, but they all seemed to be more drinking clubs that anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to MIT we didn't have that other than informal groups that pulled off hacks.

Friends that studied at Cambridge on study abroad encountered these. My friend was in the Legless Birds club, but they all seemed to be more drinking clubs that anything else.

Not like the complex gags done at CalTech?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I still don’t get the purpose? To get to know each other well? Why does the club need to be secret to do that?

These are like mini Masonic lodges. Many of the people in them might be liberal or progressive Democratic, but they’re based on aristocratic principles and simply aren’t democratic at all.

These groups are supposed to be made of people who can trust each other’s with their lives, raise money for the college or charity, run the government, and fight bad guys.

When good guys belong, maybe they sometimes do important, wonderful things.

When bad people belong to them, they no doubt do and cover up all sorts of terrible things.

See the movie The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon. Yale, Skull and Bones, William Donovan, the creation of the CIA. George HW Bush is an example of this background.

But S&B is not secret. It does not hide its members' identities. The purpose of the group is networking and socializing, not anonymous philanthropy like the ones at UVA.

Okay, but my point was to agree with the poster I quoted who noted that they’re based on aristocratic principles, run the government, fight bad guys. It’s beyond networking as it’s like selection and preparation for a life of elite power. It’s well known that S and B was the pipeline to the CIA in its early days.

[Anonymous]

Princeton eating clubs are not anonymous. Neither are the final clubs at Harvard.

Everyone knew who was in which club. No one hid their membership.

I've been in a few of the final clubs at Harvard because my ex-wife was a Harvard alum but I was not a Harvard alum. Male Harvard alums are not allowed in a final club's house unless they were a member. So being a non-alum was a loophole into getting access to the Harvard final clubs.

Think of it as a pity invite lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't good people at UVa, but they will give money to the school and will make $$$.

I hope this is sarcasm. Please go read “Secret Societies at UVA” in wiki

This keeps getting posted but the Wikipedia article describes a bunch of self serving clubs and some recent philanthropy.
It looks like UVA had some elitist societies at the start and much later some people started making their own societies to make it a trend.

I know am alum from uva and he’s the biggest ass. I can guess he was in a secret society. He was in a fraternity for sure. He and wife talk non stop about connections and networking literally all the time. It’s like a chess match they only spend time with people who they think can help them and their kids succeed socially and professionally. There’s nothing sincere about it

How nice that you know ONE alum from UVA. YOu readily admit that have no idea if they are in an anonymous philanthropic society at UVA. Nevertheless, you extrapolate your perceived judgments about this person here, mistakenly thinking that one person's behavior can apply to all alums. Why?

You know why.

[Anonymous]

When exclusive isn’t exclusive enough, you invent something even more exclusive and be sure to include yourself.

[Anonymous]

Very minor presence, unless you are in one, for Yale's secret societies and Harvard's finals clubs. Princeton eating clubs are a little different--about half the people are in them.

As like with everything else "super-prestigious," it's all about family connections. Either you have them or you don't!

Never gave any of it a second thought while at HYP, honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very minor presence, unless you are in one, for Yale's secret societies and Harvard's finals clubs. Princeton eating clubs are a little different--about half the people are in them.

As like with everything else "super-prestigious," it's all about family connections. Either you have them or you don't!

Never gave any of it a second thought while at HYP, honestly.

Or you're an ice cold hustler who knows how to cozy up to the right people. Generational wealth had to start somewhere. Often it was someone a few branches up the family tree who started out dirt poor but knew how to network and cut deals.

[Anonymous]

I lived w Dartmouth folks for a while and they were all tattooed w their societies from Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

It’s so funny when people claim there are no tattoos /brands because it’s not in the Wikipedia page. Ha! They aren’t called secret for nothing. And many haze even more than frats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I still don’t get the purpose? To get to know each other well? Why does the club need to be secret to do that?

These are like mini Masonic lodges. Many of the people in them might be liberal or progressive Democratic, but they’re based on aristocratic principles and simply aren’t democratic at all.

These groups are supposed to be made of people who can trust each other’s with their lives, raise money for the college or charity, run the government, and fight bad guys.

When good guys belong, maybe they sometimes do important, wonderful things.

When bad people belong to them, they no doubt do and cover up all sorts of terrible things.

See the movie The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon. Yale, Skull and Bones, William Donovan, the creation of the CIA. George HW Bush is an example of this background.

But S&B is not secret. It does not hide its members' identities. The purpose of the group is networking and socializing, not anonymous philanthropy like the ones at UVA.

Okay, but my point was to agree with the poster I quoted who noted that they’re based on aristocratic principles, run the government, fight bad guys. It’s beyond networking as it’s like selection and preparation for a life of elite power. It’s well known that S and B was the pipeline to the CIA in its early days.

False .A conspiracy theory. Here's precisley what wiki says about that:

Conspiracy theories

Skull and Bones is featured in books and movies which claim that the society plays a role in a global conspiracy for world control.[17] There have been rumors that Skull and Bones is a branch of the Illuminati, having been founded by German university alumni following the order's suppression in their native land by Karl Theodor, Elector of Bavaria with the support of Frederick the Great of Prussia,[21][dubious – discuss] or that Skull and Bones controls the CIA.[50]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I lived w Dartmouth folks for a while and they were all tattooed w their societies from Dartmouth

OMG the horror! you lived with "Darmouth folks" who happened to be tattoed. lol