Turning Red

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. We really didn't like it either (my kids are girl (12), boy (10), and boy (6)). The worst part was the pro-rebelliousness piece - at one point, my 6 year old actually asked me: Is it better to listen to your friends than your mom?
Great message, film-makers!

Hahahahha. Do you really think your children will never rebel or question you? Or they will now but only because they saw this movie?

Coming of age stories are prevalent in all culture because it is just part of life!

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Anonymous wrote:I liked it a lot and my kids really did too.

But I do think the character is a bit tired. I feel like every show is about misfits vs super popular kids. What about the normal kids who fit in, make good grades and enjoy life?

At least the parents weren't dead- so hey +1 for Disney on that.

I didn’t get much a misfit vs. popular kids theme in this movie at all. The four main characters fit in well enough, made good grades and appeared to enjoy life.

+1 In what way did you feel these kids were not normal, pp?

I get what PP is saying. It seems like in so many kids movies, especially with female leads, the lead characters are either beautiful princesses/warriors (Moana, Mulan, Raya) or nerdy/outcasts (Encanto, Turning Red). There isn't much in the middle.

Is wearing glasses all it takes to make one a nerdy outcast? Because, again, these girls seemed fairly typical amongst their peers. What sort of conflict might one your heroines “in the middle” face that would make for a compelling story with broad appeal?

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. We really didn't like it either (my kids are girl (12), boy (10), and boy (6)). The worst part was the pro-rebelliousness piece - at one point, my 6 year old actually asked me: Is it better to listen to your friends than your mom?
Great message, film-makers!

I don’t think that was exactly the message for kids, but the takeaway for moms absolutely should have been “don’t freak out when your 13-year-old listens to their friends over you, because that’s normal and ok.”

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Anonymous wrote:I liked it a lot and my kids really did too.

But I do think the character is a bit tired. I feel like every show is about misfits vs super popular kids. What about the normal kids who fit in, make good grades and enjoy life?

At least the parents weren't dead- so hey +1 for Disney on that.

I didn’t get much a misfit vs. popular kids theme in this movie at all. The four main characters fit in well enough, made good grades and appeared to enjoy life.

+1 In what way did you feel these kids were not normal, pp?

I get what PP is saying. It seems like in so many kids movies, especially with female leads, the lead characters are either beautiful princesses/warriors (Moana, Mulan, Raya) or nerdy/outcasts (Encanto, Turning Red). There isn't much in the middle.

This. These girls were clearly misfits/nerds. And yeah, you could clearly see who the popular kids were (stacy? Tyler?) . It's nice that they had a strong group though, they weren't outcast and alone. I think everyone needs their own friend group.

I really like the Babysitters Club on Netflix for this reason. Most of the girls are not over-the-top beautiful and they are a tight knit group of friends who aren't a bunch of random misfits. They all have their own styles and interests and friendships with one another and function similar to how most friend circles do.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. We really didn't like it either (my kids are girl (12), boy (10), and boy (6)). The worst part was the pro-rebelliousness piece - at one point, my 6 year old actually asked me: Is it better to listen to your friends than your mom?
Great message, film-makers!

I don’t think that was exactly the message for kids, but the takeaway for moms absolutely should have been “don’t freak out when your 13-year-old listens to their friends over you, because that’s normal and ok.”

Yes, yes, yes!

I related so much to this movie. My now 33 year old daughter was a perfectionist who was mortified anytime she disappointed us. She was so perfect in every way, the family joke is the one and only time she was caught was her only act of rebellion. The joke is, we all know (and know we all know) that it wasn't. She was very different with her friends, pushing a few more boundaries and definitely sewed some oats when she went away to college. I just wish I'd given her more self confidence to be herself, because everything she did was 100% normal. She and I both cried this morning when I told her why I liked the movie so much.

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Anonymous wrote:I liked it a lot and my kids really did too.

But I do think the character is a bit tired. I feel like every show is about misfits vs super popular kids. What about the normal kids who fit in, make good grades and enjoy life?

At least the parents weren't dead- so hey +1 for Disney on that.

I didn’t get much a misfit vs. popular kids theme in this movie at all. The four main characters fit in well enough, made good grades and appeared to enjoy life.

+1 In what way did you feel these kids were not normal, pp?

I get what PP is saying. It seems like in so many kids movies, especially with female leads, the lead characters are either beautiful princesses/warriors (Moana, Mulan, Raya) or nerdy/outcasts (Encanto, Turning Red). There isn't much in the middle.

This. These girls were clearly misfits/nerds. And yeah, you could clearly see who the popular kids were (stacy? Tyler?) . It's nice that they had a strong group though, they weren't outcast and alone. I think everyone needs their own friend group.

I really like the Babysitters Club on Netflix for this reason. Most of the girls are not over-the-top beautiful and they are a tight knit group of friends who aren't a bunch of random misfits. They all have their own styles and interests and friendships with one another and function similar to how most friend circles do.

Can you all provide a single detail from the movie that points to the girls being “random misfits”?

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I really liked it (and really emphasized with the girl). I have two boys (10 and 6). The 10 year old liked it a lot and I think it resonated with him too (even being a boy). My 6 year old was meh about it and asked to watch another movie after about the 20 minute mark, but as soon as there was a lot more panda he enjoyed it.

My 10 year old laughed more than my 6 year old did though.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it a metaphor for getting your period?

Yes. And puberty in general and it’s effects on the mother/daughter relationship. I found it really poignant as I have a 13 year old girl, but my 11 year old son didn’t like it at all. It was refreshing to see a movie centered on girls that was honest about vulnerability and the harmful expectations of perfection that a lot of girls start to absorb on the teen years.

my 14 yo boy really liked it - so YMMV.

I kind of see it as Pixar's answer to Frozen and a follow-up to the short Bao. It's the first Pixar by a female director - and same director as did Bao. I really liked it.

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Anonymous wrote:It was boring and weird. And as a woman, I found it a bit stereotypical.

As a boy mom, I can report that boys have normal outbursts as well. But this film focuses on girls.

And, as one of four girls, I have to say the tiger mom stereotype didn’t resonate at all. My sisters and I adored our mother. She provided unconditional love, not controlling at all.

Little kids wanted to watch it, but they got bored after 20 minutes. Curious what age group actually enjoyed it? Also curious if the film resonates with certain ethnic groups?

God forbid ONE movie focus on girls and not boys. Your poo, poor, persecuted son.

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Mother of three boys here and FFS. Boys get all the movies.

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I liked it a lot. I REALLY liked the importance of healthy female friendships being depicted at that age.

I also did not see them at all as misfits. They did well in school, Tyler bullied them a bit but was also a more fully formed human by the end and in their friend group! The popular girls loved them! As soon as they knew she was the panda everyone was super into it!

She was humiliated when her mom threw her drawings out in front of the school but a popular girl would be JUST as humiliated by that.

None of them seemed like they were unhappy girls. On the contrary, they were goofy girls on the precipice of womanhood fangirling about their favorite boyband, and all seemed relatively confident in who they were! It was just a peek into the inner minds of tweens. I mean, very few people have a seamlessly non awkward trip through puberty. Its tough on everyone.

I have little kids and they liked it because of the panda, and it gave me a bit to think about as I looked down at my 6 year old girl thinking about her winding her way towards that age.

But I dunno, three best girl friends, boybands and tamagotchis? I'm in my 30s and this basically is my teenage years. And I was basically just a normal run of the mill kid, neither a popular girl or a nerd. Which really, is what these girls seemed like! It is not JUST misfits and cheerleaders in the world people!

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My gosh, did anyone else see the post on social media about this movie not being compatible with leading a Jesus-centric life?

It was terribly incoherent post and once I saw the movie, my first thought was the Jesus post was obviously thinly veiled racism. People suck.

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Something no one else has mentioned- the music was very bad in this movie. Encanto knocked it out of the park and this movie didn't have one good song. Despite the fact that Billie Eilish wrote it

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Anonymous wrote:Something no one else has mentioned- the music was very bad in this movie. Encanto knocked it out of the park and this movie didn't have one good song. Despite the fact that Billie Eilish wrote it

The music was completely forgettable, but it’s not a musical so whatever. I didn’t like the Encanto music either, though.

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Anonymous wrote:My gosh, did anyone else see the post on social media about this movie not being compatible with leading a Jesus-centric life?

It was terribly incoherent post and once I saw the movie, my first thought was the Jesus post was obviously thinly veiled racism. People suck.

I saw one shared by many Christian friends, but it may have been different, as I don't recall Jesus-centric phrase being used. But, I'm sure they complained about the same issues. And it's the reason I watched the movie to begin with. I wanted to see if there was any basis in the complaints. (Spoiler, there wasn't.) I am a Christian and once again am embarrassed by how extreme some are. But even more than that, I'm angry the posts made the movie out to be so scandalous. Sorry Christian friend, but if you saw anything remotely sexual about offering boys rides at the b-day party or when Mei Mei twerked as a panda, sticking her head between her legs, it's your own dirty mind.

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Anonymous wrote:It was boring and weird. And as a woman, I found it a bit stereotypical.

As a boy mom, I can report that boys have normal outbursts as well. But this film focuses on girls.

And, as one of four girls, I have to say the tiger mom stereotype didn’t resonate at all. My sisters and I adored our mother. She provided unconditional love, not controlling at all.

Little kids wanted to watch it, but they got bored after 20 minutes. Curious what age group actually enjoyed it? Also curious if the film resonates with certain ethnic groups?

God forbid ONE movie focus on girls and not boys. Your poo, poor, persecuted son.

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Mother of three boys here and FFS. Boys get all the movies.

NP. I don't think they needed boys in the movie. But I will say that the dad was very one dimensional. I like it when dads have voices and are equal to moms in shows. That dad was basically a prop.