I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People simply cannot listen and stay home. Same with Covid. Everyone is just a victim of circumstance. (Ppl going to work are the exception).

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, more people should have listened to the weather forecast and stayed off the road. Pre-treatment applications aren't designed to accommodate near regular traffic flows through a winter storm. It was snowing too heavily and there were too many cars/trucks on the road. It only took a few tractor trailer spinouts for chaos to ensue.

This. Plus, this was a mess all the way into DC - people couldn't make it up the incline of the exit to 210 (I think?) near DC. Then it's just a chain reaction, plows can't get through and everyone is stuck.

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There were just too many people on the road, and it was clear early on that the snow was heavy. It only takes one or two accidents and there's not much anyone can do to resolve it quickly. I honestly don't know why so many people were out -- the schools were all closed, the federal government was closed, I'm sure many other offices who follow the feds were closed, too -- what were all those people doing? Everyone knows that Virginia isn't used to handling that kind of snowstorm because it's not common.

No dear, “everyone” doesn’t know this.

Some of us are smart enough to understand that as the climate changes and the planet gets hotter and hotter, that snowstorms like this will be more and more common because of all the added moisture in the atmosphere.

And Virginia just elected a guy who has promised policies that will make the planet even hotter.

So I hope you like snowstorms like this. There will be a lot more in the future.

The party jumpers who got him elected don’t care about that. Their vote was just a mommy temper tantrum about distance learning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised we haven’t seen tweets from Jose Andres describing the meals his team is delivering to the stranded motorists and plow drivers. He certainly seems to find a way to overcome logistical challenges.

My father was once stuck in a blizzard on a MI highway. State Police walk between the cars making sure people were ok and getting someone out by stretcher who needed immediate medical care. It can be done.

They walked between cars for a backup that stretched 50 miles? Impressive!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People simply cannot listen and stay home. Same with Covid. Everyone is just a victim of circumstance. (Ppl going to work are the exception).

But didn't this all happen AFTER the snow stopped? The jams started Monday afternoon, not Monday morning.

It snowed heavily from 7-1 pm. Why would anyone be on the road after receiving 12 inches of snow? I looked out my window with 6 in in Montco and was like 'nope'. Then you have these people traveling in the winter with no blankets, no supplies and then complaining that superman didn't rescue them from the sky. You gotta use some common sense folks.

So much this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, more people should have listened to the weather forecast and stayed off the road. Pre-treatment applications aren't designed to accommodate near regular traffic flows through a winter storm. It was snowing too heavily and there were too many cars/trucks on the road. It only took a few tractor trailer spinouts for chaos to ensue.

This. Plus, this was a mess all the way into DC - people couldn't make it up the incline of the exit to 210 (I think?) near DC. Then it's just a chain reaction, plows can't get through and everyone is stuck.

+1
There were just too many people on the road, and it was clear early on that the snow was heavy. It only takes one or two accidents and there's not much anyone can do to resolve it quickly. I honestly don't know why so many people were out -- the schools were all closed, the federal government was closed, I'm sure many other offices who follow the feds were closed, too -- what were all those people doing? Everyone knows that Virginia isn't used to handling that kind of snowstorm because it's not common.

No dear, “everyone” doesn’t know this.

Some of us are smart enough to understand that as the climate changes and the planet gets hotter and hotter, that snowstorms like this will be more and more common because of all the added moisture in the atmosphere.

And Virginia just elected a guy who has promised policies that will make the planet even hotter.

So I hope you like snowstorms like this. There will be a lot more in the future.

The party jumpers who got him elected don’t care about that. Their vote was just a mommy temper tantrum about distance learning.

People who don't vote a straight ballot are traitors, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Finland where my parents were posted. This sort of snowfall that happened yesterday in Virginia is a weekly occurrence there. Traffic doesn’t grind to a halt, roads get plowed, and something like this would be unheard of. The only thing that failed here is idiotic American drivers and their pathetically funded infrastructure system.

But hey, you pay almost nothing in taxes for the privilege of such failures. Enjoy being a laughingstock to the rest of the world. ‘Murcia! Wooo-hooo hee haw!

Please go back to your wonderful homeland. I spent a weekend in Helsinki in the winter and never saw a more depressed populace anywhere in the world. I think 60 Minutes did a segment years ago making fun of this fact.. Your whole country doesn't have the population of Metro Washington. I am absolutely sure that they do snow better than us - so what? It's a lock DC Metro area will have these massive foul-ups every five years or so. We deal with it.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, more people should have listened to the weather forecast and stayed off the road. Pre-treatment applications aren't designed to accommodate near regular traffic flows through a winter storm. It was snowing too heavily and there were too many cars/trucks on the road. It only took a few tractor trailer spinouts for chaos to ensue.

This. Plus, this was a mess all the way into DC - people couldn't make it up the incline of the exit to 210 (I think?) near DC. Then it's just a chain reaction, plows can't get through and everyone is stuck.

+1
There were just too many people on the road, and it was clear early on that the snow was heavy. It only takes one or two accidents and there's not much anyone can do to resolve it quickly. I honestly don't know why so many people were out -- the schools were all closed, the federal government was closed, I'm sure many other offices who follow the feds were closed, too -- what were all those people doing? Everyone knows that Virginia isn't used to handling that kind of snowstorm because it's not common.

No dear, “everyone” doesn’t know this.

Some of us are smart enough to understand that as the climate changes and the planet gets hotter and hotter, that snowstorms like this will be more and more common because of all the added moisture in the atmosphere.

And Virginia just elected a guy who has promised policies that will make the planet even hotter.

So I hope you like snowstorms like this. There will be a lot more in the future.

The party jumpers who got him elected don’t care about that. Their vote was just a mommy temper tantrum about distance learning.

People who don't vote a straight ballot are traitors, right?

DP

Yes.

[Anonymous]

That section of 95 has been f’ed up for years. This is the republicans for not fixing our infrastructure. Billions in Afghanistan and tax cuts for the rich but you are on your own when driving on a federal highway.

I heard the toll road was open but they were charging $2.53 and people would rather sit for 27 hrs vs pay the toll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That section of 95 has been f’ed up for years. This is the republicans for not fixing our infrastructure. Billions in Afghanistan and tax cuts for the rich but you are on your own when driving on a federal highway.

I heard the toll road was open but they were charging $2.53 and people would rather sit for 27 hrs vs pay the toll.

Okay, except for the fact that Dems currently control the Executive and both legislative houses at the federal level and in Virginia. What ate you smoking?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't pre-treat 95/495.

I get that no one believed the snow would stick due to the warm temps, especially so much of it. But I drove on it Sunday night around 8pm, and there was no pre treatment on the highway whatsoever. Nada.

VDOT has stated that they couldn’t pre-treat the roads because this storm started as rain and everything would’ve washed away.

I don't believe that. There was never pouring rain. Temps fell fast, and it was light freezing rain and sleet before switching to snow. I don't think VDOT believed the weather forecasts like most of us. It was dry when I drove home Sunday night, and there was no pre treatment anywhere, so they didn't even try.

It poured in the middle of the night before the snow started.

The pre-treatment wouldn't have worked for the same reason that the snow stuck, even though the pavement was nowhere near freezing, it had been 60 degrees earlier, it was coming down at such a fast clip. My DS took his sled out while it was still snowing, left it on the lawn, and came back into the house, 45 mins later there had to have been 6 inches of snow on the sled.

Not much you can do about that intensity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised we haven’t seen tweets from Jose Andres describing the meals his team is delivering to the stranded motorists and plow drivers. He certainly seems to find a way to overcome logistical challenges.

My father was once stuck in a blizzard on a MI highway. State Police walk between the cars making sure people were ok and getting someone out by stretcher who needed immediate medical care. It can be done.

They walked between cars for a backup that stretched 50 miles? Impressive!

What would make you think that only 1 person would be involved in that type of operation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That section of 95 has been f’ed up for years. This is the republicans for not fixing our infrastructure. Billions in Afghanistan and tax cuts for the rich but you are on your own when driving on a federal highway.

I heard the toll road was open but they were charging $2.53 and people would rather sit for 27 hrs vs pay the toll.

Okay, except for the fact that Dems currently control the Executive and both legislative houses at the federal level and in Virginia. What ate you smoking?

So Biden has been in office a year and you think he should have fixed this? You know it takes a few years to build a highway. Do you remember Trump was in power for 4 years. The only thing he did was a tax cut for the rich and businesses. Trump campaigned on an infrastructure plan. The republicans said no that just like they voted against Biden infrastructure bill.

Biden is a legislator in the Virginia state government?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People simply cannot listen and stay home. Same with Covid. Everyone is just a victim of circumstance. (Ppl going to work are the exception).

But didn't this all happen AFTER the snow stopped? The jams started Monday afternoon, not Monday morning.

It snowed heavily from 7-1 pm. Why would anyone be on the road after receiving 12 inches of snow? I looked out my window with 6 in in Montco and was like 'nope'. Then you have these people traveling in the winter with no blankets, no supplies and then complaining that superman didn't rescue them from the sky. You gotta use some common sense folks.

So much this.

NP. I’m really trying not to second guess everyone who had to be on the roads, but why on earth would Tim Kaine leave at 1:00 pm yesterday?! Even if he thought 95 would be passable, he had to know that much snow would cause problems all over the area. I am more baffled by his decision than those who presumably had to work their shifts or lose their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Finland where my parents were posted. This sort of snowfall that happened yesterday in Virginia is a weekly occurrence there. Traffic doesn’t grind to a halt, roads get plowed, and something like this would be unheard of. The only thing that failed here is idiotic American drivers and their pathetically funded infrastructure system.

But hey, you pay almost nothing in taxes for the privilege of such failures. Enjoy being a laughingstock to the rest of the world. ‘Murcia! Wooo-hooo hee haw!

Please go back to your wonderful homeland. I spent a weekend in Helsinki in the winter and never saw a more depressed populace anywhere in the world. I think 60 Minutes did a segment years ago making fun of this fact.. Your whole country doesn't have the population of Metro Washington. I am absolutely sure that they do snow better than us - so what? It's a lock DC Metro area will have these massive foul-ups every five years or so. We deal with it.
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And it doesn't make sense to have a full snow infrastructure in a place that gets only occasional big storms. I grew up in Maine and was in Baltimore for snowmageddon. It was bananas. EMTs were pulling people out of neighborhoods on sleds. My neighbors eventually cleared our street with a shovel brigade because we were never getting plowed by the city, but it also makes no sense for Baltimore to spend money on plows that will only be used once a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People simply cannot listen and stay home. Same with Covid. Everyone is just a victim of circumstance. (Ppl going to work are the exception).

But didn't this all happen AFTER the snow stopped? The jams started Monday afternoon, not Monday morning.

It snowed heavily from 7-1 pm. Why would anyone be on the road after receiving 12 inches of snow? I looked out my window with 6 in in Montco and was like 'nope'. Then you have these people traveling in the winter with no blankets, no supplies and then complaining that superman didn't rescue them from the sky. You gotta use some common sense folks.

So much this.

NP. I’m really trying not to second guess everyone who had to be on the roads, but why on earth would Tim Kaine leave at 1:00 pm yesterday?! Even if he thought 95 would be passable, he had to know that much snow would cause problems all over the area. I am more baffled by his decision than those who presumably had to work their shifts or lose their jobs.

He had an 8 pm meeting regarding legislation. Presumably he thought seven hours was enough time to drive up from Richmond. Clearly he was wrong.