MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

[Anonymous]

After this last twist, I can't help but think Dr. McKnight doesn't actually want the super job anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

There doesn’t need to be some new solution! This is precisely their problem- needing to reinvent the wheel for everything. they should just follow the CDC, why make this more difficult than it has to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

There doesn’t need to be some new solution! This is precisely their problem- needing to reinvent the wheel for everything. they should just follow the CDC, why make this more difficult than it has to be.

You could follow the plan and stop griping?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

There doesn’t need to be some new solution! This is precisely their problem- needing to reinvent the wheel for everything. they should just follow the CDC, why make this more difficult than it has to be.

You could follow the plan and stop griping?

Yes, they should stop griping about MCPS following established CDC guidance.

[Anonymous]

For those that want to make it about race (see comment upthread a page or two), imagine if we got LaTanya McDade instead. I'd give up a bounty to have her instead of McKnight. She strikes every right tone. For football fans, they got Peyton Manning and we got Ryan Leaf.

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/new-prince-william-schools-superintendent-focuses-on-in-person-learning/article_d58f7984-0f9f-11ec-a03c-2725aa887dfa.html

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Yes, they should stop griping about MCPS following established CDC guidance.

This particular policy is not CDC guidance.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

There doesn’t need to be some new solution! This is precisely their problem- needing to reinvent the wheel for everything. they should just follow the CDC, why make this more difficult than it has to be.

You could follow the plan and stop griping?

Why are you telling her to stop griping? She is right! This thread is 60 pages long because there are many people who think this new guidance was short-sighted and that parents with better ideas could/should suggest them so that our not-sick kids aren’t unnecessarily quarantined repeatedly for half the school year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?

The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.

In a way it is interesting that people are angry they have to miss one day or two to test a child than for en entire school system to close down. One might think the preference is to test and go to school this year. Don’t send a kid in sick seems common sense

No one is saying send a sick kid to school. Just don’t hold the non-sick kids hostage while waiting for test results for the sick kid. If this is such a great policy than why is MCPS the only district implementing it? There’s no evidence that this will meaningfully cut down on transmission but it’s almost guaranteed to result in continued disruption and lost instruction time.

You should present your solution to the BOE. No matter what is done there will be disruption this year but you already knew that

There doesn’t need to be some new solution! This is precisely their problem- needing to reinvent the wheel for everything. they should just follow the CDC, why make this more difficult than it has to be.

You could follow the plan and stop griping?

Why are you telling her to stop griping? She is right! This thread is 60 pages long because there are many people who think this new guidance was short-sighted and that parents with better ideas could/should suggest them so that our not-sick kids aren’t unnecessarily quarantined repeatedly for half the school year.

Read all the Covid letters for the not so sick kids LOL

[Anonymous]

Some places are instituting daily testing of the kids that mcps wants to send home. That is, if you had direct contact with symptomatic kid but yourself have no symptoms, you do a quick test every day. Seems like a reasonable solution-- the only reason I can think not to do it is cost (?) I haven't seen estimate for cost of such a program...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom

I like this policy!

Why?

Vaccinated students are in control of their own destiny and not at the mercy of a "cougher" getting tested. Their ES's are interpreting close contacts with seating charts. It's a good balance across competing priorities.

They are not interpreting with seating charts. An entire grade got quarantined at one school last year, and other schools quarantined entire classes. There is nothing balanced about this.

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Yes, they should stop griping about MCPS following established CDC guidance.

This particular policy is not CDC guidance.[/quote

Stop spreading misinformation. They are following best practices as outlined by the CDC.

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Anonymous wrote:At my pediatrician office, if my kid get tested today morning/afternoon, the result won't be available till next day online. That means, kid has to be picked up early today and no school tomorrow

People on this forum keep talking about same day pcr testing, does that means the result will be in today if I have my kid get tested today in the morning/afternoon? Where are those places in montgomery county? Covered by insurance? I see some places charge me $250 out of pocket and I can get result in an hour. But, that is really expensive.

And, what happens if the negative result is announced after school hours (like 3:15pm or in the evening), will all kids/parents in the class get notified in time on the same day and be able to go to school tomorrow?

We’ve gone to PM pediatrics for same days tests but it’s not as “easy” as some would lead you to believe. You need to have a virtual visit first and then the appointment time needs to be within a certain window to actually get same day results- maybe 12-2pm? Our insurance has always covered it but we weren’t sure that would be the case at first. It is expensive otherwise.

PM pediatrics website says that it takes 2-4 days for PCR test result to come in for Maryland. That is not same day testing.

There is a same day PCR option but perhaps not at all offices.

“ Our Annapolis, Columbia, Germantown, Parkville, Rockville & Timonium, MD offices and ALL Virginia offices offer an option for same-day PCR results with select participating insurances. This express-test can be scheduled after a telemedicine or in-person visit, but must be performed before specific times for same-day results. Please visit location pages for respective office times.”

What are the select participating insurances?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some places are instituting daily testing of the kids that mcps wants to send home. That is, if you had direct contact with symptomatic kid but yourself have no symptoms, you do a quick test every day. Seems like a reasonable solution-- the only reason I can think not to do it is cost (?) I haven't seen estimate for cost of such a program...

Yes. This is called test to say. MCPS should do this, but it's easier for them to just send everyone home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom

I like this policy!

Why?

Vaccinated students are in control of their own destiny and not at the mercy of a "cougher" getting tested. Their ES's are interpreting close contacts with seating charts. It's a good balance across competing priorities.

They are not interpreting with seating charts. An entire grade got quarantined at one school last year, and other schools quarantined entire classes. There is nothing balanced about this.

Oops last week not last year.