Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

More people moving in doesn't equal more cars. You really need to get outside the Boomer thought that everyone wants, needs or can afford a car. It just isn't our world anymore.

It’s not just boomers- I don’t know how anyone with kids can live in the city without a car, public transport is too unreliable and inefficient. No way in hell am I biking on these roads with my kids, even with the changes.

It's quite easy toive in DC with kids and without a car. I've managed fine. Many other carless families I know have done fine.

Spoken like someone who is lying about having kids...

Spoken like someone who has been entitled enough to always be able to afford a car. You realize that car ownership in DC is a minority of the people, yet the rest of us are able to do just fine, thank you. We would do better if people like you didn't try to impose your car-dom on the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

More people moving in doesn't equal more cars. You really need to get outside the Boomer thought that everyone wants, needs or can afford a car. It just isn't our world anymore.

It’s not just boomers- I don’t know how anyone with kids can live in the city without a car, public transport is too unreliable and inefficient. No way in hell am I biking on these roads with my kids, even with the changes.

It's quite easy toive in DC with kids and without a car. I've managed fine. Many other carless families I know have done fine.

Spoken like someone who is lying about having kids...

Spoken like someone who has been entitled enough to always be able to afford a car. You realize that car ownership in DC is a minority of the people, yet the rest of us are able to do just fine, thank you. We would do better if people like you didn't try to impose your car-dom on the rest of us.

Er, except there's more cars than households in Washington D.C.

We have 288,000 households and 300,000 cars officially registered with the city. There's probably many tens of thousands more that aren't registered (it's outrageously expensive to register your car).

Meanwhile there's so few bicyclists that the city doesn't even bother breaking them out separately in its transportation statistics. It lumps them in with a bunch of other unpopular ways of getting around.

[Anonymous]

How many households have two, three of four+ cars?

In upper NW, it is most of them.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

Appreciate your concern. But I prefer my hybrid and sfh. Deal with it. DC is not NYC or HK, etc. And that is exactly what makes DC attractive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:all this for the city's least popular method of transportation. it would be great if the city focused less on bikes and more on ways of getting around that significant numbers of people actually use.

If less people drove cars, more able-bodied people would be alive today, climate variability would be less, the projected annual temperature increase would be less, our governments would have more money to give back to the population in tax cuts or to spend on productive social programs, and more people would have more time to spend on productive endeavors rather than being stuck in traffic. But yet we should be encouraging people to drive more, right?

But I like my car, and plan to continue using it in DC.

[Anonymous]

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That's an Idaho stop. I also noticed multiple cars shootout past the stop sign before rolling through the intersection, which I would argue is much more dangerous to pedestrians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:all this for the city's least popular method of transportation. it would be great if the city focused less on bikes and more on ways of getting around that significant numbers of people actually use.

If less people drove cars, more able-bodied people would be alive today, climate variability would be less, the projected annual temperature increase would be less, our governments would have more money to give back to the population in tax cuts or to spend on productive social programs, and more people would have more time to spend on productive endeavors rather than being stuck in traffic. But yet we should be encouraging people to drive more, right?

But I like my car, and plan to continue using it in DC.

No one is telling you you can't. We just want the same thing for bikes - a place to ride that is safe and easily accessible to the shops and stores we want to support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

Appreciate your concern. But I prefer my hybrid and sfh. Deal with it. DC is not NYC or HK, etc. And that is exactly what makes DC attractive.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

No? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

Oh, how fun it is to make random assumptions about anonymous people on the internet. Is that an "adult" thing? I've lived here since the Bush administration. I've also lived plenty of other places, some small, some big, some nice and some shitty. Does that make my opinion more or less valid than yours? Is this some kind of pissing contest where the person who lived here the longest wins? Some people would consider living here for more than a few years a sign of insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

That's an Idaho stop. I also noticed multiple cars shootout past the stop sign before rolling through the intersection, which I would argue is much more dangerous to pedestrians.[/quote

I think that was the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

More people moving in doesn't equal more cars. You really need to get outside the Boomer thought that everyone wants, needs or can afford a car. It just isn't our world anymore.

It’s not just boomers- I don’t know how anyone with kids can live in the city without a car, public transport is too unreliable and inefficient. No way in hell am I biking on these roads with my kids, even with the changes.

It's quite easy toive in DC with kids and without a car. I've managed fine. Many other carless families I know have done fine.

Spoken like someone who is lying about having kids...

Spoken like someone who has been entitled enough to always be able to afford a car. You realize that car ownership in DC is a minority of the people, yet the rest of us are able to do just fine, thank you. We would do better if people like you didn't try to impose your car-dom on the rest of us.

Er, except there's more cars than households in Washington D.C.

We have 288,000 households and 300,000 cars officially registered with the city. There's probably many tens of thousands more that aren't registered (it's outrageously expensive to register your car).

Meanwhile there's so few bicyclists that the city doesn't even bother breaking them out separately in its transportation statistics. It lumps them in with a bunch of other unpopular ways of getting around.

We have statistics on this from the ACS, so we don't need to speculate. Over 2016-2020, 35% of DC households did not own a car. Car ownership was highest in Ward 3 and lowest in Wards 7 and 8 (https://www.dchealthmatters.org/indicators/index/view?indicatorId=281&localeTypeId=3&periodId=6955). Earlier iterations of the ACS tells us that, as of 2014, a minority (41%) of commuters drove to work - either by themselves or in a shared vehicle (https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/page_content/attachments/Commuting%20to%20Work%20in%20DC_1.pdf) and that the proportion of DC commuters who biked to work doubled between 2010 and 2015. We do not have more recent reliable statistics on the proportion of commuters who bike to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

Appreciate your concern. But I prefer my hybrid and sfh. Deal with it. DC is not NYC or HK, etc. And that is exactly what makes DC attractive.

And DC is not Atlanta or Houston, either, and that's also what makes it attractive.