Muslim Values

jsteele
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One recent DCUM thread that deserves a place in the DCUM Hall of Infamy concerned hiring a nanny who wore a hijab:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/84532.page

The thread contains a number of slurs against Muslims such as:

"Absolutely Not! I wouldnt hire any muslim in Hijab because they scare me and they would scare my kids too, there is no way!"

"I agree with the PP - I would not feel comfortable hiring anyboday who was very religeos in any faith to take care of my kids because I feel that people who are that way are close minded and are driven by their religeon, not necessary common sense or genuine good will"

"NO WAY. I would not hire a Hari Krisna either. Both religions are wacky."

Today, I stumbled across this article about a Muslim cab driver in New York who found $21,000 and some jewels left in his cab. He tracked down the owner and drove 50 miles to return the money. He even refused a reward.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/13/new-york-taxi-honest

From the article:

"The cabbie himself shrugged off the incident, saying he had been taught never to take advantage of people. 'My mother is my inspiration,' he said. 'She always said, be honest and work hard.'"

"He also declined the reward the Lettieri family offered him, saying that as an observant Muslim he could not accept it."

Gosh, I would certainly hate for some scary, good-will-lacking, wacky nanny to imbue such values in my kids.

The article ends by mentioning a past incident in which a cab driver returned a $4 million violin to its owner. That driver's name was Mohammed Khalil, a name that will certainly get him on a watch list or two.

Anonymous
Yeah, it makes you wonder who the real wacks are.
Anonymous
I don't know, Jeff. Just as I don't think people are inherently bad because they are Muslim, I don't assume they have lofty morals because they are Muslim. I think both of these stories are examples of great men with good ethics. But I tend to judge everyone by the same standards, almost to a fault.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't know, Jeff. Just as I don't think people are inherently bad because they are Muslim, I don't assume they have lofty morals because they are Muslim. I think both of these stories are examples of great men with good ethics. But I tend to judge everyone by the same standards, almost to a fault.



I don't think that was Jeff's point. People do not have bad morals just becasue they are Muslims, the story of the cab driver is used as a example that there are observant Muslims that are genuinely good people.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, Jeff. Just as I don't think people are inherently bad because they are Muslim, I don't assume they have lofty morals because they are Muslim. I think both of these stories are examples of great men with good ethics. But I tend to judge everyone by the same standards, almost to a fault.


Oh, I agree. I don't care what religion, if any, someone is. But, I think that people who consider Muslims scary and wacky probably have never heard stories like this one. It would be good for them to get exposed to another viewpoint.
Anonymous
They probably also don't actually know any Muslims.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They probably also don't actually know any Muslims.

Agreed - ignorance! In some latino communities women are avoiding the H1N1 virus because they believe it causes sterility. Ignorance leads to some crazy, and in the above case, bigoted POVs. I went to the Catholic school - not much difference between the nun's garb and the hijab.
Anonymous
Ignorance!!! Small minded!!!
Anonymous
Well, I tend to be on the fence with this issue. when you employ a nanny, you have to be so very comfortable with leaving your kids for a long time alone with that person, and she will have a lot of influence over your kids.
With the public image of Islam, a muslim with a hijab would raise questions with most parents.

If you think that post was bad, you should have seen the one where they were discussing a nanny with an accent, and the chances your kid wuold learn to speak wrong enlish
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They probably also don't actually know any Muslims.

I do know muslims, just not muslims from the middle east, and those are the ones I would be cautios of.
You are talking about a very general term and you will not believe the diversity. 1/3 of the world is said to be muslim
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They probably also don't actually know any Muslims.

I do know muslims, just not muslims from the middle east, and those are the ones I would be cautios of.
You are talking about a very general term and you will not believe the diversity. 1/3 of the world is said to be muslim


Who is "those"? The muslims you know, the ones from the middle east, or the ones not from the middle east?

I can imagine that you may have your reasons for not trusting specific people whom you know. But if you meant either of the two groups (middle eastern or non ME muslims), you are falling victim to the same generalization that you are pointing out. For example, there are 200 million muslims in Indonesia alone. You can expect that group has both good and bad people in it.
Anonymous
Reminds me of the Ft. Hood incident. People are making such a big deal about the shooter being Muslim. He was CRAZY, that's why he killed people. Just like the Holocaust museum shooter had Christian literature in his car. He didn't kill because he's Christian, he killed because he's nuts.
There are extremists and crazies in all religions. The people who conducted the Holocaust, the Spanish Inquisition, the slave trade and the witch burnings were "Christians".
People are just paranoid in this, the Age of Terror.
Anonymous
There are crazy Christians, crazy Jews, crazy Muslims and crazy atheists......in general crazy people
There are also very very good ones and the majority of the human race wants to be good people.
When people act crazy it is because they are mentally unstable and religion should not be the blame. Those who act in violence in the name of God (terrorists of any religion) are mentally unstable and are frowned upon. If a serial killer killer and did not believe in God, I have never heard anyone emphasize that it is bc he did not have faith but rather that he was insane......
Anonymous
Yes, I don't mean to single out Christians. I mention that because I believe Americans are still overwhelmingly officially "Christian". So before people go pointing their fingers at Muslims who do insane things, they should remember that the average crazy, murderous person on the streets here is probably NOT Muslim, but of a religious background similar to their own.
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