DCUMed - important info to recover/protect at home (worst case scenario)

[Anonymous]

From a kind poster, elsewhere. This can be a great page to provide useful, succinct info with sources. Let's leave it here as a resource for all. Add only useful info as it pertains to the worst case scenario if hospitals become over whelmed. Please post new responses rather than entire re-quotes since it bogs down the thread. Or copy and paste a specific part to support or refute. Be well!

Verbatim from poster:

If medical facilities become overwhelmed, then knowing what to do at home to help will be useful. Here is a medical paper on CoV19, see section 6. Treatment and Control. Go through this and highlight what you CAN do yourself. It is intended for a hospital environment, but there are still things you can do at home. Save this document so you have a copy, just in case.

https://mmrjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40779-020-0233-6

If you have pneumonia, sleep on your stomach. This alone reduces mortality rates by 30-40% because in the prone position, lung compression is decreased, secretions drain better, and collapsed alveoli reopen.

https://digitalcommons.ric.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1272&context=etd

Here are some additional proactive tips coming from several doctors on coronavirus. If you have a compromised immune system or just want to boost it against this virus here are some proactive measures that can help according to pulmonologist Dr. Seheult. & John Campbell. Make sure you are not Zinc deficient and start a daily dose 10-50 micrograms (400-2000 IU). of Vitamin D, get some daily sun in. Getting more than 50 micrograms reduces the positive effect. Taking this amount reduces respiratory infection by 50%. During the beginning of the H1N1 outbreak many nurses recall docs prescribing Vitamin D.

Also quercetin was mentioned as a supplement. There are researchers right now developing a quercetin treatment for COVID-19 it is a supplement you can get very cheap. It was used against SARS, Ebola and Zika. Either way consult with a physician before starting any supplement. Quercetin dihydrate has the best bioavailability.

If you have a dry throat/cough make sure you drink enough water as the virus thrives on dry throats.

The only true way to protect yourselves is to presume everyone is infected. Containment will prevent infections and save lives. Use strict hand hygiene. Stay away from crowds. Use a paper towel to turn off faucets and open doors with. Do not go out unless you have to. Leave your shoes at the door. Wash your hands before leaving work and as soon as you get home. Wipe down supplies you buy (milk cartons, water jugs, etc.) with Clorox wipes or alcohol 70%. Clean all door handles, light switches, surfaces with antiviral/bacterial cleaners. Don't hug or shake hands. Spray down mail or packages with Lysol then sanitize with a UV-C cleaner.

http://uvcmobilekleaner.pg-blog.com/

UV C light is germicidal because it inactivates microorganisms by destroying nucleic acids and disrupting their DNA with its short wavelength. Companies like Germ Falcon and Xenex are using UV C light emitting robots on airplanes and in hospitals against coronavirus COVID 19 currently

Based on a paper on March 10, 2020 titled High temperature and high humidity reduce the transmission of COVID-19.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551767

What they found out is higher temperatures and higher humidity significantly reduces the spread of the infection. So for every one degree increase in temperature there is a decrease of R that means effective reproduction. Singapore Malaysia and Thailand had much smaller outbreaks than South Korea Iran China and Italy.

There is a big difference in their temperature and humidity in these countries versus Italy currently and NY. If you are running heat at home make sure you don't have too much dry air/ low humidity. A personal humidifier something like this works with water. These zen humidifiers/purifiers were mostly used in the summer but actually provide more humidity versus cooling.

http://humidifierkit.pg-blog.com/

[Anonymous]

How is lung compression decreased if you sleep on your stomach? Seems like the opposite is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is lung compression decreased if you sleep on your stomach? Seems like the opposite is true.

https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/20/4/1017

[Anonymous]

Is Mobile Klean a decent product? Their website looks somewhat scammy.

[Anonymous]

Hi.

Medical professional here.

The supplement recommendations are folly. Medicine has not shown they work.

The “zinc levels” thing is BS and dangerous.
Zinc most likely has no effect on a cold. There are no good studies of it, because zinc tablets have a distinctive taste, so effective placebos cannot be made. Therefore there is no double blind high quality evidence for zinc. And in fact, when high quality studies have been done, they tend to show much much smaller effects.

Please. Stick to actual medical advice. Separate the home remedy speculation into another thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is lung compression decreased if you sleep on your stomach? Seems like the opposite is true.

Please. Wait for medical professionals to weigh in.

This is a study about prone positioning for ventilated patients.

Any pulmonologists around to say what their institutions’ practice is for non-ventilated patients?

Here’s text from that study;

According to the available data, the authors conclude that: 1) oxygenation improves in ∼70–80% of patients with early acute respiratory distress syndrome; 2) the beneficial effects of oxygenation reduce after 1 week of mechanical ventilation; 3) the aetiology of acute respiratory distress syndrome may markedly affect the response to prone positioning; 4) extreme care is necessary when the manoeuvre is performed; 5) pressure sores are frequent and related to the number of pronations; 6) the supports used to prone and during positioning are different and nonstandardised among centres; and 7) intensive care unit and hospital stay and mortality still remain high despite prone positioning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi.

Medical professional here.

The supplement recommendations are folly. Medicine has not shown they work.

The “zinc levels” thing is BS and dangerous.
Zinc most likely has no effect on a cold. There are no good studies of it, because zinc tablets have a distinctive taste, so effective placebos cannot be made. Therefore there is no double blind high quality evidence for zinc. And in fact, when high quality studies have been done, they tend to show much much smaller effects.

Please. Stick to actual medical advice. Separate the home remedy speculation into another thread.

I don’t doubt that you’re correct, but I take a zinc supplement daily for other reasons and it has no taste at all. It’s just a tablet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi.

Medical professional here.

The supplement recommendations are folly. Medicine has not shown they work.

The “zinc levels” thing is BS and dangerous.
Zinc most likely has no effect on a cold. There are no good studies of it, because zinc tablets have a distinctive taste, so effective placebos cannot be made. Therefore there is no double blind high quality evidence for zinc. And in fact, when high quality studies have been done, they tend to show much much smaller effects.

Please. Stick to actual medical advice. Separate the home remedy speculation into another thread.

I don’t doubt that you’re correct, but I take a zinc supplement daily for other reasons and it has no taste at all. It’s just a tablet.

Not a medical professional, but everything I have heard about how zinc *might* help with colds requires you to allow it to slowly dissolve in your mouth to coat your throat. That would be hard to replicate with a placebo because zinc really does taste awful.

[Anonymous]

This sounds like what my 80 year old aunt posts on Facebook.

[Anonymous]

If warm, moist temps were detrimental to the virus, why would people in Florida be spreading it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If warm, moist temps were detrimental to the virus, why would people in Florida be spreading it?

Spring break was off the hook!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi.

Medical professional here.

The supplement recommendations are folly. Medicine has not shown they work.

The “zinc levels” thing is BS and dangerous.
Zinc most likely has no effect on a cold. There are no good studies of it, because zinc tablets have a distinctive taste, so effective placebos cannot be made. Therefore there is no double blind high quality evidence for zinc. And in fact, when high quality studies have been done, they tend to show much much smaller effects.

Please. Stick to actual medical advice. Separate the home remedy speculation into another thread.

I have no idea what zinc tastes like so I would have no idea if you gave me a zinc lozenge v a placebo. I think the current understanding is that zinc may help a little bit, according to studies, but we are not sure. https://www.uchealth.org/today/zinc-could-help-diminish-extent-of-covid-19/

[Anonymous]

I am weary of these kinds of posts and emails.

[Anonymous]

I saw in the videos from hospitals in China and Italy that they had everyone who was lying down on their stomachs. people were either sitting very upright on on their stomachs on top of pillows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw in the videos from hospitals in China and Italy that they had everyone who was lying down on their stomachs. people were either sitting very upright on on their stomachs on top of pillows.

I have seen the same photos on then news.