ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

They don't want to make loopholes so they would be more likely to go July - June. This handles the same amount of trapped players and misaligns a bunch but they can play up. Or they can stick with 9-1. Whatever they go with, waivers aren't in play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

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“Primary” options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

Not sure what you’re trying to convey here? Primary doesn’t mean only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

Not sure what you’re trying to convey here? Primary doesn’t mean only.

Lloyd, "So you're telling me there's a chance"

[Anonymous]

It will be 9/1 to 8/31…..the end

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

In other words....

Ignore what works across the board and choose A B or C equally awful choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Bingo

This is the way forward - if reasonable minds prevail. Get rid of the trap and play ball.

"The primary registration choices are: (1) Birth Year – January 1-December 31, (2) Seasonal Year – August 1-July 31, or (3) Seasonal Year – September 1-August 31."

In other words....

Ignore what works across the board and choose A B or C equally awful choices.

Dude give it a rest. We understand what you’d like to see, you don’t need to reply to every post restating your case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY + 60? Still don’t know what that means.

Sy+60 means for most players there's a hard cutoff of 9/1 + 12 months and all you need is an eligable birthcert to play.

However if you were born 60 days before 9/1 and can provide birthcert and evidence that you're enrolled in that grade in school even if you're technically up to 60 days older you can play with that age group.

What this does is create one rule that works in all geographies that completely addresses all trapped players. Also because you need to provide proof of enrollment in xyz grade players can't play down a grade.

End result is no trapped players and all players at events and showcases are one grade in school.

So in this system, if you’re looking at September 1, 2012 - August 31, 2013 group, if you are born in Aug or July of 2012, but can prove you’re in the same grade as the Sept 1 - Aug 31 grouping, you’re playing with that group even though you’re a little bit older?

Parents are always working an angle. I don't blame them ... Otherwise they'd be the youngest. Now they'd be the oldest. Sounds like June or May parents need to come up with their "fix" next!

[Anonymous]

The grass is ALWAYS greener. Did some Googling on Lacrosse's new 15-month preferred SY system. Lots of complaints about clubs manipulating the system to bring in OLDER players. One of the first things I find?

"Why can youth lacrosse not go to birth year's across all tournaments?

If all youth tournaments adopted age verification and went to birth year instead of graduation date the sport would be so much more competitive and fun to watch/play.

We bring teams down from Canada and often discover we are playing against some club teams that are our age, then others that have kids 2+ years older.

What is the appeal to having a system where people can manipulate the age groups just to win? Why wouldn't you want a system where kids are guaranteed to play against kids from the same birth year? Obviously give kids an opportunity to play with older age groups if they are good enough, but there should never be a time where a team of 201× born kids are playing against a team of 201z born kids. .....

[Anonymous]

Also .... "Age limit BS
"My sons 2031 (2013 birth year) team just played in a very competitive tournament in Maryland this past weekend. His team was 4-0 and made it to the championship game. The opposing team had several older kids, one even drove away in his own car. They were physically beating up on our guys, it was pretty bad. Are there any tournaments out there that actually verify ages to prevent this kind of crap?"

[Anonymous]

You're fighting a losing battle.

Wish you all the best but if all the rec leagues choose a hard cutoff (not something like SY+60) they're screwed and BY leagues will eat their lunch.

[Anonymous]

Interesting discussion on these similar topics over on the Lacrosse forum ... https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1134506.page

TLDR ... Many people liked the changes BUT there still was grousing by some who came out disadvantaged (Sounds like they still have trapped players happening in 1 way or another). A few even noted a desire for BY among some parents, although that seemed a small minority.

[Anonymous]

I think the last few posts just highlight the fact that there is no perfect system, and someone is going to be, or feel, disadvantaged. We will see what happens soon enough.