FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

Madison is better than Marshall so people are ok with that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

Except in very rare circumstances, people don’t want to be moved. Even if the move is perceived as to a better school, it causes massive disruption to the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

People don’t want to be moved for flimsy reasons of as part of “solutions” that are just as problematic as the “problems” they purport to solve. That includes some of the folks who’d be moved to McLean from Marshall.

[Anonymous]

I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

Gaslight alert!

She pretends that the absence of signs means that people aren’t opposed to the changes.

The school board’s approach is willful blindness, even in the face of overwhelming opposition to their plans.

Exactly. Do you think every pocket who is angry about the proposed changes is making signs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

If they eliminate the split feeder at Lemon Road so it feeds 100% to McLean, without also changing the Lemon Road boundaries, it means that some kids who live next door to Marshall on the "Marshall side" of Leesburg Pike would attend McLean.

I spoke with several people who live next to Marshall during the last round of community meetings. When they expressed unhappiness with this proposal, I asked if they'd rather stay at Lemon Road/Kilmer/Marshall, even if only 15-20% of Lemon Road fed to Kilmer/Marshall, and they said yes. For them at least, the advantage of attending a school within walking distance outweighed the advantage of everyone attending the same MS/HS. They also wanted to stay at Lemon Road and not get rezoned to a 100% Marshall feeder like Freedom Hill, which has capacity. Maybe the Lemon Road families on the other side of Route 7 who live closer to McLean or about the same distance to both McLean and Marshall feel differently?

FCPS's consultants aren't local, and don't seem to appreciate these nuances. They just see their job as moving SPAs around to achieve a particular result, such as the elimination of a split feeder. Sometimes that's fine with people, but it's often not the case, as the "heat map" comments show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

Where are you zoned for now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

Lemon Road might be the biggest winners of the current proposal. They get out of double split feeders, they get out of IB, and they get moved to a higher ranked school. Will it stick? Doubtful, but the Lemon Road people I know are thrilled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

Lemon Road might be the biggest winners of the current proposal. They get out of double split feeders, they get out of IB, and they get moved to a higher ranked school. Will it stick? Doubtful, but the Lemon Road people I know are thrilled.

This petition suggests otherwise: https://www.change.org/p/petition-to-keep-dominion-dr-kings-garden-way-and-kings-mill-court-zoned-for-marshall-hs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

Where are you zoned for now?

DP but they must be currently zoned to Lemon Road/Kilmer/Marshall (and would move to Lemon Road/Longfellow/McLean).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see so many comments about families not wanting these changes but there are MANY families that do . We are at Lemon Road and would welcome the proposed change to McLean HS with open arms. This change would keep our kids with the same friends group through HS, which would be a plus all around.

If they eliminate the split feeder at Lemon Road so it feeds 100% to McLean, without also changing the Lemon Road boundaries, it means that some kids who live next door to Marshall on the "Marshall side" of Leesburg Pike would attend McLean.

I spoke with several people who live next to Marshall during the last round of community meetings. When they expressed unhappiness with this proposal, I asked if they'd rather stay at Lemon Road/Kilmer/Marshall, even if only 15-20% of Lemon Road fed to Kilmer/Marshall, and they said yes. For them at least, the advantage of attending a school within walking distance outweighed the advantage of everyone attending the same MS/HS. They also wanted to stay at Lemon Road and not get rezoned to a 100% Marshall feeder like Freedom Hill, which has capacity. Maybe the Lemon Road families on the other side of Route 7 who live closer to McLean or about the same distance to both McLean and Marshall feel differently?

FCPS's consultants aren't local, and don't seem to appreciate these nuances. They just see their job as moving SPAs around to achieve a particular result, such as the elimination of a split feeder. Sometimes that's fine with people, but it's often not the case, as the "heat map" comments show. [i]

+1. They don’t know that when “correcting” a split feeder, they’re actually splitting a neighborhood. They don’t realize traffic patterns, a HS may only be 1 mile further, but the time to get there is so much more due to traffic patterns at rush hour.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

Not necessarily.

Lake Braddock is a stronger school than South County.

The Silverbrook neighborhood slated to move from SoCo does NOT want to get rezoned to Lake Braddock. They want to stay in their community, in the school they picked when they bought their house.

Most people want to stay in the school they chose and do NOT want the school board to gerrymander them into a different school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.

All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.

It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.

That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.

It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.

It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.

It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.

It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.

It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.

There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.

People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church

Not necessarily.

Lake Braddock is a stronger school than South County.

The Silverbrook neighborhood slated to move from SoCo does NOT want to get rezoned to Lake Braddock. They want to stay in their community, in the school they picked when they bought their house.

Most people want to stay in the school they chose and do NOT want the school board to gerrymander them into a different school.

Yeah because the commute to LB from there is crazy, especially if there’s ongoing construction on Lee Chapel. If it wasn’t so far away, they’d probably be pretty happy about it.