UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents wanted to put a yellow ribbon around their tree in their yard. Were told no by the Obama administration

That would go along with Obama's ridiculous mindset - don't do anything that bullies will interpret as criticism. Any 1st grader knows that bullies see that as weakness, and go after their victims even more.

Tough but serious question here: do you think Obama would have responded differently if it had been a black college student? I'm not trying to start anything here, just curious what others think. And if you think his response would have been the same regardless, I can respect that. Just curious if others think there might have been implicit bias against Otto. Just look at some of the responses here for examples.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!

Everytime you post sh1t like this you sound like a bitter racist who HATED that Obama, a black man, was in the White House. So just SFTU.

This has EVERYTHING to do with race! It was his white privilege which created this whole situation:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9531122

Your link is to an opinion piece. One person's opinion, proves nothing

NO did she lie ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

[Anonymous]

Three more Americans are in North Korean detention. What's Trump doing to get them out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Huh? Only whites are sympathizing with the college student - or only whites are sympathizing with the ex-convict? I don't get your meaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Three more Americans are in North Korean detention. What's Trump doing to get them out?

So far he's done more good than your guy did in eight years.

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing but sympathy and prayers for Otto and his family. It was dumb to go to NK, but not anything deserving of what they've been through.

That said.... I do not understand why Americans are allowed to go there. We aren't allowed to go to Cuba, where by all accounts tourists will be treated just fine. Why doesn't the US place an embargo on NK just the same and just avoid the terrible (but predictable) outcomes like this.

Please tell me you are this divorced from reality. The US has a trade embargo. The US doesn't have diplomatic relations with the DPRK. You can't waltz over to its embassy in DC. Rather, you can only get a tourist visa when in China. Our government doesn't forcibly restrain its citizens from visiting and putting themselves at risk of arrest or even kidnapping and secret detention.

Surely you are not this divorced from reality.

Yes, it is complicated for Americans to go to NK. But it is NOT ILLEGAL.
Yes, pre-Obama changes Americans could skirt the law and get into Cuba (who would kindly not stamp their passport), but it WAS ILLEGAL (and still us under some circumstances)

The state dept has issued a very strongly worded Travel Warning to US Citizens against traveling to North Korea.
This is the statement about Cuba: Travel to Cuba for tourist activities remains prohibited by statute.

Different, see?

Given the gravity of what could happen to tourists in NK and the atrocities that we know about by their government, it seems that travel to NK for tourist activities should also be prohibited by statute.

Ah, so Congress has to pass a law then? Didn't someone introduce a bill in the House?

Isn't that a "nanny-state" kind of law, though? I mean, if the government shouldn't be involved in banning food that will kill people, then why should it be involved in telling people not to travel to NK?

Well, yeah, it probably is nanny-state, but if we can do it for Cuba we can do it for literally the worst nation on the face of the planet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents wanted to put a yellow ribbon around their tree in their yard. Were told no by the Obama administration

That would go along with Obama's ridiculous mindset - don't do anything that bullies will interpret as criticism. Any 1st grader knows that bullies see that as weakness, and go after their victims even more.

Tough but serious question here: do you think Obama would have responded differently if it had been a black college student? I'm not trying to start anything here, just curious what others think. And if you think his response would have been the same regardless, I can respect that. Just curious if others think there might have been implicit bias against Otto. Just look at some of the responses here for examples.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!

Everytime you post sh1t like this you sound like a bitter racist who HATED that Obama, a black man, was in the White House. So just SFTU.

I don’t understand how anyone can continue to read anything in the Huff Po. It is terrible. This article is par for the course.

This has EVERYTHING to do with race! It was his white privilege which created this whole situation:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9531122

Your link is to an opinion piece. One person's opinion, proves nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Three more Americans are in North Korean detention. What's Trump doing to get them out?

So far he's done more good than your guy did in eight years.

Try again, several Americans were released under Obama, most notably these two:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/north-korea-releases-americans-matthew-miller-and-kenneth-bae/2014/11/08/5023f922-675f-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html?utm_term=.93bc8b7b04b9

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents wanted to put a yellow ribbon around their tree in their yard. Were told no by the Obama administration

That would go along with Obama's ridiculous mindset - don't do anything that bullies will interpret as criticism. Any 1st grader knows that bullies see that as weakness, and go after their victims even more.

Tough but serious question here: do you think Obama would have responded differently if it had been a black college student? I'm not trying to start anything here, just curious what others think. And if you think his response would have been the same regardless, I can respect that. Just curious if others think there might have been implicit bias against Otto. Just look at some of the responses here for examples.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!

Everytime you post sh1t like this you sound like a bitter racist who HATED that Obama, a black man, was in the White House. So just SFTU.

This has EVERYTHING to do with race! It was his white privilege which created this whole situation:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9531122

Your link is to an opinion piece. One person's opinion, proves nothing

NO did she lie ?

IDK. Can an opinion be a lie? If so, then yes she lied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.

I'm with you PP. I feel horrible for Otto and his family and am sad to see all the hatred directed at them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.

The college kid suffered much worse at the end of his life; the ex-con likely suffered just as much in the beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)

White tears

Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.

I'm with you PP. I feel horrible for Otto and his family and am sad to see all the hatred directed at them.

PP here, and thanks. I just cannot get that image of Otto looking to the heavens and pleading for his life out of my mind. Can you imagine how it would feel to know that one lousy mistake is going to obliterate your future?

Do you mind if I ask if you tend toward liberal or conservative? I'm getting "hints" that much of the hatred is coming from the left,but I could be wrong.