PGS Tested Embryo miscarriage at 7 weeks

[Anonymous]

All I am so disappointed , this is a donor egg and no luck so far. Are fresh eggs better than donor eggs? Please advice. I get hardly any eggs at SG and out of that only one gets pgs tested normal.

[Anonymous]

I'm so sorry OP. Are you using a proven donor and are there any male factor issues? FWIW our first donor egg cycle at SG failed but the second one from the same batch worked.

[Anonymous]

I am so sorry. I had a PGS tested cycle fail (chemical so not even miscarriage) but I remember feeling like it was SO unfair bc it was supposed to work!

When you say are "fresh eggs better than donor eggs," do you mean you used frozen donor eggs? If so did you thawed eggs, fertilized, grow to blast, then biopsy, froze, tested, thawed and transferred? I could see all of that taking its toll. At the same time I am not sure if all of that equalizes out once it has implanted.

My clinic has told me that with donor eggs fresh is better than frozen (even when looking at the same donor) bc the frozen eggs are so fragile. My understanding is that they tend to fail by not fertilizing or not growing to blast. My clinic provides a specific number of eggs per lot (8) bc that is how many they have seen gives the family a very good shot at one healthy baby.

[Anonymous]

This is horrible I’m so sorry. I can only tell you from my experience that I did a 3 to 1 donation ratio at Shady Grove. I think the pecking order at Shady Grove absolutely matters. If you’re chosen as the “primary”, you are much more likely to get pregnant. In my experience, Shady Grove lies about how one is chosen to become primary. I was told that the “primary” is the first person to choose the egg donor. I believe in reality it’s the recipient who has paid the guaranteed fee instead of the per cost fee. That way they are guaranteed to make the most money off of you. I had a fresh transfer with DE and was successful. I called to find out about the other two recipients: one was not successful, and the other had deferred her transfer, probably for testing. We took a chance and did not test the embryos.

I have since transferred my frozen embryos to GW hospital, and currently pregnant with my second. Again, not pgs tester. My only conclusion is that because I was the primary, but I possibly got the most viable eggs.

My single advice is to not use Shady Grove, and to try to select a donor with a high success rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is horrible I’m so sorry. I can only tell you from my experience that I did a 3 to 1 donation ratio at Shady Grove. I think the pecking order at Shady Grove absolutely matters. If you’re chosen as the “primary”, you are much more likely to get pregnant. In my experience, Shady Grove lies about how one is chosen to become primary. I was told that the “primary” is the first person to choose the egg donor. I believe in reality it’s the recipient who has paid the guaranteed fee instead of the per cost fee. That way they are guaranteed to make the most money off of you. I had a fresh transfer with DE and was successful. I called to find out about the other two recipients: one was not successful, and the other had deferred her transfer, probably for testing. We took a chance and did not test the embryos.

I have since transferred my frozen embryos to GW hospital, and currently pregnant with my second. Again, not pgs tester. My only conclusion is that because I was the primary, but I possibly got the most viable eggs.

My single advice is to not use Shady Grove, and to try to select a donor with a high success rate.

Would SG be violating medical privacy laws if it told you the outcomes of two other recipients’ cycles?

[Anonymous]

So if you’re saying don’t use Shady Grove, then where would you go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is horrible I’m so sorry. I can only tell you from my experience that I did a 3 to 1 donation ratio at Shady Grove. I think the pecking order at Shady Grove absolutely matters. If you’re chosen as the “primary”, you are much more likely to get pregnant. In my experience, Shady Grove lies about how one is chosen to become primary. I was told that the “primary” is the first person to choose the egg donor. I believe in reality it’s the recipient who has paid the guaranteed fee instead of the per cost fee. That way they are guaranteed to make the most money off of you. I had a fresh transfer with DE and was successful. I called to find out about the other two recipients: one was not successful, and the other had deferred her transfer, probably for testing. We took a chance and did not test the embryos.

I have since transferred my frozen embryos to GW hospital, and currently pregnant with my second. Again, not pgs tester. My only conclusion is that because I was the primary, but I possibly got the most viable eggs.

My single advice is to not use Shady Grove, and to try to select a donor with a high success rate.

Would SG be violating medical privacy laws if it told you the outcomes of two other recipients’ cycles?

Only if they told you who the other recipients were.

[Anonymous]

We have had the worst experience at Shady Grove, they never tested my husband for MF issues and he had DNA fragmentation that too another doctor after we went out of state for a second opinion requested it. They kept pushing for donor eggs and nothing would reach blast after using donor eggs. And I wasted 7 years there. We just moved to a new clinic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have had the worst experience at Shady Grove, they never tested my husband for MF issues and he had DNA fragmentation that too another doctor after we went out of state for a second opinion requested it. They kept pushing for donor eggs and nothing would reach blast after using donor eggs. And I wasted 7 years there. We just moved to a new clinic.

How is this possible? They always require a semen analysis. Is there some other test they failed to do on your husband?

[Anonymous]

Yes they never did a DNA fragmentation test. Which they should have done right after the first or second miscarriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have had the worst experience at Shady Grove, they never tested my husband for MF issues and he had DNA fragmentation that too another doctor after we went out of state for a second opinion requested it. They kept pushing for donor eggs and nothing would reach blast after using donor eggs. And I wasted 7 years there. We just moved to a new clinic.

NP. So often it's the woman who is targeted, and not the man. And so often the idea of DE is introduced so readily and easily, but not donor sperm. It's kind of a messed up system driven by patriarchal norms, to be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have had the worst experience at Shady Grove, they never tested my husband for MF issues and he had DNA fragmentation that too another doctor after we went out of state for a second opinion requested it. They kept pushing for donor eggs and nothing would reach blast after using donor eggs. And I wasted 7 years there. We just moved to a new clinic.

NP. So often it's the woman who is targeted, and not the man. And so often the idea of DE is introduced so readily and easily, but not donor sperm. It's kind of a messed up system driven by patriarchal norms, to be honest.

Agree wholeheartedly. We had 5 failed IVF cycles and finally out of desperation independently arranged for my DH to have a fragmentation test. Of course it came back with a high percentage fragmentation. RE still insists we move to donor egg and refuses to believe it’s a sperm problem.