We need homes. A lot of homes. Not just affordable, but also middle-income homes.

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Not easy nor equal, but having an equal chance. There is a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

Sanity.

Agree. It's this entitlement mentality being promoted by liberals.

I never lived in the city proper. Middle-class college graduate, but still couldn't afford it. I always lived in Maryland or Virginia suburbs and took the metro in. I didn't complain that there was nothing "affordable" in downtown DC.

Same thing with Manhattan. Middle class people can't afford to live there (only the rich who pay full fare or poor who get subsidized by taxpayers). They live in an outer borough or Long Island and take the train (or ferry) into Midtown.

What ever happened to the concept of living where you can afford?

P.S. Reminds me of the debate that took place in my suburb a couple of years back. I live in an affluent part of the county, with lots of restaurants and shops, and liberals were complaining that the waiters and retail clerks couldn't afford to live close to their jobs (meaning they couldn't walk to them). When I suggested that there are plenty of garden apartments two miles down the road and they could take the bus in, some liberal said that it would be inconvenient for them and then asked snarkily "would YOU like to have to take the bus?"

Well, besides the fact that I HAVE taken the bus to work (bus to metro), what's this new deal with saying that low-income should get to live just as well as middle-income? If middle-income people don't enjoy any better lifestyle than low-income, what's the point of working yourself up to that level?

There is no point. That’s the point of liberals. They’d like life to be easy and equal for everyone. As long as they get to make all the rules. Of course that’s fantasy.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

Of course rich people living in $1M homes don't want more SFHs. They don't care what everyone else is left with, especially the poors.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

You are not nearly as liberal (in either the capital-L Liberal or small-l classical liberal senses of the word) as you think you are if you support restrictive zoning requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

Of course rich people living in $1M homes don't want more SFHs. They don't care what everyone else is left with, especially the poors.

They want more diverse people in their neighborhood, which based on your response, or lack thereof, you are opposed to. And they are fine with people living in SFH, but it is unsustainable to have all of the acres of land just be SFH. So you are basically opposed to the three elements I posted. Fair enough.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

You are not nearly as liberal (in either the capital-L Liberal or small-l classical liberal senses of the word) as you think you are if you support restrictive zoning requirements.

Before I slam you for misrepresenting my views, perhaps you should explain what EXACTLY you mean by restrictive zoning requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

You are not nearly as liberal (in either the capital-L Liberal or small-l classical liberal senses of the word) as you think you are if you support restrictive zoning requirements.

Before I slam you for misrepresenting my views, perhaps you should explain what EXACTLY you mean by restrictive zoning requirements.

Thank you for your graciousness!

Restrictive zoning requirements are a little bit like Potter's definition of pornography, so I'll grant you that it can be a little squishy around the edges. But, one obvious example is SFH zoning with large lot coverage requirements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

Of course rich people living in $1M homes don't want more SFHs. They don't care what everyone else is left with, especially the poors.

They want more diverse people in their neighborhood, which based on your response, or lack thereof, you are opposed to. And they are fine with people living in SFH, but it is unsustainable to have all of the acres of land just be SFH. So you are basically opposed to the three elements I posted. Fair enough.

I oppose all 3 elements. Not interested in more density. Already support local retail, but local retail is not returning as it was decades ago. Not interested in a compact urban center. What makes DC great is the SFH neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

Nobody

Of course rich people living in $1M homes don't want more SFHs. They don't care what everyone else is left with, especially the poors.

They want more diverse people in their neighborhood, which based on your response, or lack thereof, you are opposed to. And they are fine with people living in SFH, but it is unsustainable to have all of the acres of land just be SFH. So you are basically opposed to the three elements I posted. Fair enough.

I oppose all 3 elements. Not interested in more density. Already support local retail, but local retail is not returning as it was decades ago. Not interested in a compact urban center. What makes DC great is the SFH neighborhoods.

Nobody is saying knock down condos to build SFHOMES. However, some people are saying knock down SFH to build condos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

You are not nearly as liberal (in either the capital-L Liberal or small-l classical liberal senses of the word) as you think you are if you support restrictive zoning requirements.

Before I slam you for misrepresenting my views, perhaps you should explain what EXACTLY you mean by restrictive zoning requirements.

Thank you for your graciousness!

Restrictive zoning requirements are a little bit like Potter's definition of pornography, so I'll grant you that it can be a little squishy around the edges. But, one obvious example is SFH zoning with large lot coverage requirements.

Just three points I’d like to make here.

1. You don’t get to define my politics based on the absurdly narrow issue of real estate zoning in Ward 3 of Washington DC.
2. I strongly believe the push for more density is an argument driven by capitalist developers who are looking for more high priced real estate to sell - the cost land and construction effectively blocks affordable housing in this Ward.
3. Large lot coverages preserve green space. Those of us who choose to live in cities deserve greenery too.

[Anonymous]

IOW, I support the Bernie/Biden agenda except when it impacts me, in which case, MAGA babeee!

[Anonymous]

We need smart homes for seniors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.

It isn't that the smart growth advocates want the housing for themselves. Most of them live in million + homes. They want affordable housing for their communities because they believe in 1) more density supporting the local retail 2) economic and racial diversity and 3) environmental benefits of having more people live in a compact urban center rather than plowing up more fields for single family homes.

Are you opposed to those three things?

Nobody

Of course rich people living in $1M homes don't want more SFHs. They don't care what everyone else is left with, especially the poors.

They want more diverse people in their neighborhood, which based on your response, or lack thereof, you are opposed to. And they are fine with people living in SFH, but it is unsustainable to have all of the acres of land just be SFH. So you are basically opposed to the three elements I posted. Fair enough.

I oppose all 3 elements. Not interested in more density. Already support local retail, but local retail is not returning as it was decades ago. Not interested in a compact urban center. What makes DC great is the SFH neighborhoods.

Nobody is saying knock down condos to build SFHOMES. However, some people are saying knock down SFH to build condos.

Who is saying that? People are simply arguing for property owners to have the option to build more homes. Someone would be knocking down their own home—by choice—to build condos. No one is forcing anyone to increase density.