Why does no one acknowledge how overworked teachers are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

+1 It's like thinking that owning a car makes you an expert mechanic.

But don’t you understand? Having been students in the 80s/90s makes them experts on teachers’ jobs in 2023. Not enough eyeroll emojis in the world.

Sweetcheeks, can you maybe respond to the flow of a thread, versus responding to individual posts from days ago, all in succession? I mean, I'm happy that at least you didn't do it at 3am this time.

Sweetcheeks, unlike many of you, I don’t have all day to scroll on DCUM, so I read it once or twice a day while I’m taking a break working toward a deadline, and if multiple people make separate idiotic posts, I will respond to them individually as I see fit. No one elected you board monitor, so take a seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

+1 It's like thinking that owning a car makes you an expert mechanic.

But don’t you understand? Having been students in the 80s/90s makes them experts on teachers’ jobs in 2023. Not enough eyeroll emojis in the world.

Sweetcheeks, can you maybe respond to the flow of a thread, versus responding to individual posts from days ago, all in succession? I mean, I'm happy that at least you didn't do it at 3am this time.

Sweetcheeks, unlike many of you, I don’t have all day to scroll on DCUM, so I read it once or twice a day while I’m taking a break working toward a deadline, and if multiple people make separate idiotic posts, I will respond to them individually as I see fit. No one elected you board monitor, so take a seat.

You don't add anything to the discussion, you know that, right? Just spit juvenile one-liners out in some stream of conscious rage-fest. And you are a teacher. Sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of jobs require hard work and long hours. I don’t think teachers work harder than many other professional careers, most of which are salaried with unlimited work hours. Teachers get every holiday (plus several days surrounding said holiday) and summer off. That is a benefit no other job has- paid or unpaid. My DH works many holidays (in addition to M-F, sometimes all weekend, but always at least some weekend work, as well and has never been able to take off more than 7 consecutive days.

Then can we agree teachers also have it hard? I also work M-F, and all weekend, just like your DH. I worked 4 full days over spring break, and even more over the last winter break. I’ll work 3-4 weeks of my 7 unpaid weeks of summer writing curriculum, recommendation letters, etc.

I don’t need people to think my job is harder. I’d be content if I could be respected for the fact it is hard. This thread is filled with people who refuse to accept that, for reasons I simply don’t understand.

I think the question of this individual thread is why do we have to single out teachers for their hard work and long hours, if there are plenty of jobs that require hard work and long hours?

A big portion of comments on this thread are saying just that.

Yes this. A lot of people work hard. And don’t have the summer off. And don’t get an appreciation week or any other special thanks yous and praises. So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of jobs require hard work and long hours. I don’t think teachers work harder than many other professional careers, most of which are salaried with unlimited work hours. Teachers get every holiday (plus several days surrounding said holiday) and summer off. That is a benefit no other job has- paid or unpaid. My DH works many holidays (in addition to M-F, sometimes all weekend, but always at least some weekend work, as well and has never been able to take off more than 7 consecutive days.

Then can we agree teachers also have it hard? I also work M-F, and all weekend, just like your DH. I worked 4 full days over spring break, and even more over the last winter break. I’ll work 3-4 weeks of my 7 unpaid weeks of summer writing curriculum, recommendation letters, etc.

I don’t need people to think my job is harder. I’d be content if I could be respected for the fact it is hard. This thread is filled with people who refuse to accept that, for reasons I simply don’t understand.

I think the question of this individual thread is why do we have to single out teachers for their hard work and long hours, if there are plenty of jobs that require hard work and long hours?

A big portion of comments on this thread are saying just that.

Yes this. A lot of people work hard. And don’t have the summer off. And don’t get an appreciation week or any other special thanks yous and praises. So what?

Well then I guess enjoy the great resignation. We're 56 pages in I really don't know what else to say. We're telling you how bad it is, do with it what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Thr time off in the summer IS THE ACTUAL win to the argument. It's the whole argument. Unpaid is irrelevant - just budget better. For most people in the workforce, The idea of having literal weeks, maybe even months of not working is an actual dream. An unlivable dream.



Yeah, it's great when you don't have enough money to pay your bills let alone do anything with the time off other than try to find work. It's fine if you have a safety net like your spouse's income or your parent's income to prop you up.

I actually take offense at this. I work full time, 50 weeks a year and make significantly less than a public school teacher in my state who has the same number of years of experience. I like my job, but find it really tone deaf and insensitive that you are complaining about your pay...while you make more than me AND have more time off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

+1 It's like thinking that owning a car makes you an expert mechanic.

But don’t you understand? Having been students in the 80s/90s makes them experts on teachers’ jobs in 2023. Not enough eyeroll emojis in the world.

Sweetcheeks, can you maybe respond to the flow of a thread, versus responding to individual posts from days ago, all in succession? I mean, I'm happy that at least you didn't do it at 3am this time.

Sweetcheeks, unlike many of you, I don’t have all day to scroll on DCUM, so I read it once or twice a day while I’m taking a break working toward a deadline, and if multiple people make separate idiotic posts, I will respond to them individually as I see fit. No one elected you board monitor, so take a seat.

You don't add anything to the discussion, you know that, right? Just spit juvenile one-liners out in some stream of conscious rage-fest. And you are a teacher. Sigh.

I couldn’t possibly give less of a crap whether a random nobody on a message board thinks I “add anything to the discussion.” And I’m not a teacher. I’m a parent. Sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of jobs require hard work and long hours. I don’t think teachers work harder than many other professional careers, most of which are salaried with unlimited work hours. Teachers get every holiday (plus several days surrounding said holiday) and summer off. That is a benefit no other job has- paid or unpaid. My DH works many holidays (in addition to M-F, sometimes all weekend, but always at least some weekend work, as well and has never been able to take off more than 7 consecutive days.

Then can we agree teachers also have it hard? I also work M-F, and all weekend, just like your DH. I worked 4 full days over spring break, and even more over the last winter break. I’ll work 3-4 weeks of my 7 unpaid weeks of summer writing curriculum, recommendation letters, etc.

I don’t need people to think my job is harder. I’d be content if I could be respected for the fact it is hard. This thread is filled with people who refuse to accept that, for reasons I simply don’t understand.

I think the question of this individual thread is why do we have to single out teachers for their hard work and long hours, if there are plenty of jobs that require hard work and long hours?

A big portion of comments on this thread are saying just that.

Yes this. A lot of people work hard. And don’t have the summer off. And don’t get an appreciation week or any other special thanks yous and praises. So what?

Well then I guess enjoy the great resignation. We're 56 pages in I really don't know what else to say. We're telling you how bad it is, do with it what you want.

Yes, you are quitting bc of comments on DCUM. Not bc of crappy admin, or conditions, or pay. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of jobs require hard work and long hours. I don’t think teachers work harder than many other professional careers, most of which are salaried with unlimited work hours. Teachers get every holiday (plus several days surrounding said holiday) and summer off. That is a benefit no other job has- paid or unpaid. My DH works many holidays (in addition to M-F, sometimes all weekend, but always at least some weekend work, as well and has never been able to take off more than 7 consecutive days.

Then can we agree teachers also have it hard? I also work M-F, and all weekend, just like your DH. I worked 4 full days over spring break, and even more over the last winter break. I’ll work 3-4 weeks of my 7 unpaid weeks of summer writing curriculum, recommendation letters, etc.

I don’t need people to think my job is harder. I’d be content if I could be respected for the fact it is hard. This thread is filled with people who refuse to accept that, for reasons I simply don’t understand.

I think the question of this individual thread is why do we have to single out teachers for their hard work and long hours, if there are plenty of jobs that require hard work and long hours?

A big portion of comments on this thread are saying just that.

Yes this. A lot of people work hard. And don’t have the summer off. And don’t get an appreciation week or any other special thanks yous and praises. So what?

Well then I guess enjoy the great resignation. We're 56 pages in I really don't know what else to say. We're telling you how bad it is, do with it what you want.

Yes, you are quitting bc of comments on DCUM. Not bc of crappy admin, or conditions, or pay. Grow up.

DP.
I doubt that person is quitting because of DCUM. The point is there are now 56 pages. Teachers have attempted to explain working conditions and posters have shut them down. I just found out yet another coworker is quitting at the end of this year. My own kid has lost a couple of her teachers mid year.

It’s really bad right now. DCUM would prefer teachers to suffer quietly. They aren’t doing that. They are quitting. As a teacher and a parent, I’m worried. Who will be in the classroom five years from now teaching our kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Thr time off in the summer IS THE ACTUAL win to the argument. It's the whole argument. Unpaid is irrelevant - just budget better. For most people in the workforce, The idea of having literal weeks, maybe even months of not working is an actual dream. An unlivable dream.



Yeah, it's great when you don't have enough money to pay your bills let alone do anything with the time off other than try to find work. It's fine if you have a safety net like your spouse's income or your parent's income to prop you up.

I actually take offense at this. I work full time, 50 weeks a year and make significantly less than a public school teacher in my state who has the same number of years of experience. I like my job, but find it really tone deaf and insensitive that you are complaining about your pay...while you make more than me AND have more time off.

And how do you know how much money I make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

...if you're not a troll, then i'm afraid you have an impairment of some sort. you seem to be unable to see the difference between wiping up some poop with swimming through it while using welding equipment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

...if you're not a troll, then i'm afraid you have an impairment of some sort. you seem to be unable to see the difference between wiping up some poop with swimming through it while using welding equipment.

+1 this teacher PP (….and I sincerely, sincerely hope it’s just one person??) is severely lacking in basic reasoning skills, these responses are just bizarre

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

Right, yes…this is a completely, COMPLETELY different story. Not even close to comparable. That you would imply that is laughable…what grade do you teach?

Also, like...it's not even unique? Most of us here are parents. We've all seen blowouts. Are we supposed to be impressed by the fact that you've dealt with poop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

Right, yes…this is a completely, COMPLETELY different story. Not even close to comparable. That you would imply that is laughable…what grade do you teach?

Also, like...it's not even unique? Most of us here are parents. We've all seen blowouts. Are we supposed to be impressed by the fact that you've dealt with poop?

DP but are you really going to equate handling your own infant's diaper changes with the poop of an elementary schooler unrelated to you? Classic case of parents thinking they do everything teachers do... but don't you dare close the schools during a pandemic, we need that babysitting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

Right, yes…this is a completely, COMPLETELY different story. Not even close to comparable. That you would imply that is laughable…what grade do you teach?

Also, like...it's not even unique? Most of us here are parents. We've all seen blowouts. Are we supposed to be impressed by the fact that you've dealt with poop?

DP but are you really going to equate handling your own infant's diaper changes with the poop of an elementary schooler unrelated to you? Classic case of parents thinking they do everything teachers do... but don't you dare close the schools during a pandemic, we need that babysitting

Sigh. I can only hope you are teaching your students better critical reasoning skills than you are displaying here. I’m a little scared to ask, but what grade do you teach?

-DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard. The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked." (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh.

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher. And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse). This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP. It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong. I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion.

Right, yes…this is a completely, COMPLETELY different story. Not even close to comparable. That you would imply that is laughable…what grade do you teach?

Also, like...it's not even unique? Most of us here are parents. We've all seen blowouts. Are we supposed to be impressed by the fact that you've dealt with poop?

DP but are you really going to equate handling your own infant's diaper changes with the poop of an elementary schooler unrelated to you? Classic case of parents thinking they do everything teachers do... but don't you dare close the schools during a pandemic, we need that babysitting

I think you missed the original comparison being made. Let me help!!

Cleaning up the poop of a child by an adult, either a parent or a teacher: relatively similar task. Swimming in poopie while wielding a fiery tool: not similar to either of the above. Hopefully you understand now. You're welcome!