AAP do teachers expect your child to be more obedient?

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Do AAP teachers expect better citizenship skills or better math/la skills?

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They expect them to be 3rd graders.

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better math/la skills

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Anonymous wrote:better math/la skills

This is true in my version in MCPS. Parents have us well-trained that behaviors are part of being gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:Do AAP teachers expect better citizenship skills or better math/la skills?

Both. AAP involves a lot of group projects and independent work in the classroom. AAP teachers expect the kids to be able to use their time appropriately, have enough organization skills to manage project deadlines, and be able to function well in a group. That doesn't mean that kids who are lacking in those citizenship skills won't get some scaffolding from the teacher. It's just that the program itself requires more responsibility, collaborative skills, and executive function than the regular classroom, and those demands might be more challenging for a child who is lacking in the citizenship skills.

[Anonymous]

My kid is AAP but also has IEP with Autism label with ADHD issues. Kid is super smart but doesn't fit the organized, self motivated category. AAP teachers have been more able to redirect and assist kid than previous educators were. My observation is that the AAP teachers are more readily able to be creative with solutions to assist with diverse needs.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is AAP but also has IEP with Autism label with ADHD issues. Kid is super smart but doesn't fit the organized, self motivated category. AAP teachers have been more able to redirect and assist kid than previous educators were. My observation is that the AAP teachers are more readily able to be creative with solutions to assist with diverse needs.

+1. This. aAP teachers were night and day better with my 2e kid.

[Anonymous]

This is true in my version in MCPS. Parents have us well-trained that behaviors are part of being gifted.

My friend quit teaching when she was told she was going to have all AAP classes - the students were obnoxious and the parents were worse.

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Anonymous wrote:

This is true in my version in MCPS. Parents have us well-trained that behaviors are part of being gifted.

My friend quit teaching when she was told she was going to have all AAP classes - the students were obnoxious and the parents were worse.

Well it was pretty stupid of her to go to all the trouble of getting an AAP certification then. Or you are lying.

AAP kids have a lot going for them. Bright, motivated, hard working, great support at home and love learning. But, higher end of intelligence seems to come with LDs. Good AAP teachers can support LDs and stop behavioral problems.

Speaking of which, 90% of obnoxious, entitled kids have one thing in common. Not AAP. Not GE. Obnoxious, entitled parents. Which exist in AAP and GE in most higher SES schools. Of course, lower SES is a different set of kid and parent problems.

You shouldn’t go into teaching if your goal is to only deal with ideal students. Probably a good thing your “friend” got out if her expectations were so unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is true in my version in MCPS. Parents have us well-trained that behaviors are part of being gifted.

My friend quit teaching when she was told she was going to have all AAP classes - the students were obnoxious and the parents were worse.

Well it was pretty stupid of her to go to all the trouble of getting an AAP certification then. Or you are lying.

AAP kids have a lot going for them. Bright, motivated, hard working, great support at home and love learning. But, higher end of intelligence seems to come with LDs. Good AAP teachers can support LDs and stop behavioral problems.

Speaking of which, 90% of obnoxious, entitled kids have one thing in common. Not AAP. Not GE. Obnoxious, entitled parents. Which exist in AAP and GE in most higher SES schools. Of course, lower SES is a different set of kid and parent problems.

You shouldn’t go into teaching if your goal is to only deal with ideal students. Probably a good thing your “friend” got out if her expectations were so unrealistic.

Yes, but things have gotten much worse since we were in school. Also, the DMV area is just more intense than other places around the country.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is true in my version in MCPS. Parents have us well-trained that behaviors are part of being gifted.

My friend quit teaching when she was told she was going to have all AAP classes - the students were obnoxious and the parents were worse.

Well it was pretty stupid of her to go to all the trouble of getting an AAP certification then. Or you are lying.

AAP kids have a lot going for them. Bright, motivated, hard working, great support at home and love learning. But, higher end of intelligence seems to come with LDs. Good AAP teachers can support LDs and stop behavioral problems.

Speaking of which, 90% of obnoxious, entitled kids have one thing in common. Not AAP. Not GE. Obnoxious, entitled parents. Which exist in AAP and GE in most higher SES schools. Of course, lower SES is a different set of kid and parent problems.

You shouldn’t go into teaching if your goal is to only deal with ideal students. Probably a good thing your “friend” got out if her expectations were so unrealistic.

Yes, but things have gotten much worse since we were in school. Also, the DMV area is just more intense than other places around the country.

And in the areas where it is intense, almost all of the kids have parents who are involved in their education (okay, sometimes too involved), supervise their kids after school, make sure homework gets done, willing to get extra help, for kids that needed. Come to school with full stomachs and clean clothes and good medical care are ready to learn.

In some places in the country, the 4th grade kids wouldn’t eat breakfast, would not have a parent who never came to a PT conference or PTA meeting, would lack good medical care, would have parents with substance abuse issues, would be in foster care and would go home to watch a younger sibling and start dinner, and any LDs or mental illness would not be treated— or even formally identified. . Again, there are no ideal classrooms and ideal kids. And there weren’t in the 1980s when I went to a school that had a lot of kids like the ones I just described.

No one said teaching was an easy job. And schools full of kids with perfectly behaved kids who learn above the curve with no issues and parents who are supportive but not too supportive are unicorns. We live a country where half of kids are FARMS and there is a growing wealth gap.

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In some places in the country, the 4th grade kids wouldn’t eat breakfast, would not have a parent who never came to a PT conference or PTA meeting, would lack good medical care, would have parents with substance abuse issues, would be in foster care and would go home to watch a younger sibling and start dinner, and any LDs or mental illness would not be treated— or even formally identified. . Again, there are no ideal classrooms and ideal kids. And there weren’t in the 1980s when I went to a school that had a lot of kids like the ones I just described.

And, you are saying this does not happen in Fairfax County? If so, you are sadly mistaken.

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Anonymous wrote:Do AAP teachers expect better citizenship skills or better math/la skills?

AAP teacher who are new might expect kids to be more obedient. Those who have taught AAP for a couple of years know better.

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In a nutshell, yes, unless the kid is on a 504 or IEP.

[Anonymous]

I've had kids in both AAP and GE. There were individuals with behavior issues in AAP, but on the whole, the AAP classes have had much better behavior than the GE ones.