Pay to play

[Anonymous]

https://deadspin.com/can-american-soccers-salvation-be-found-in-the-streets-1835411389

Why do we accept this terrible system ?

[Anonymous]

Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://deadspin.com/can-american-soccers-salvation-be-found-in-the-streets-1835411389

Why do we accept this terrible system ?

Soccer training has become a real $ pit! It’s just pure pathetic!

I’ll never have private lessons for my kids, you learn by repetition and creativity- playing in the streets and fields with friends,etc.

All the private trainers I know of around the Tysons/Vienna/Fairfax areas charge a huge chunk of $ and don’t report it on their taxes and then take the governments $ for Food stamps and other handouts. I will not feed into this bullshit. One I know of is from another country and he drives a fancy car and takes lavish vacations. Just sick.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://deadspin.com/can-american-soccers-salvation-be-found-in-the-streets-1835411389

Why do we accept this terrible system ?

Soccer training has become a real $ pit! It’s just pure pathetic!

I’ll never have private lessons for my kids, you learn by repetition and creativity- playing in the streets and fields with friends,etc.

All the private trainers I know of around the Tysons/Vienna/Fairfax areas charge a huge chunk of $ and don’t report it on their taxes and then take the governments $ for Food stamps and other handouts. I will not feed into this bullshit. One I know of is from another country and he drives a fancy car and takes lavish vacations. Just sick.....

What does being from another country have to do with anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://deadspin.com/can-american-soccers-salvation-be-found-in-the-streets-1835411389

Why do we accept this terrible system ?

Soccer training has become a real $ pit! It’s just pure pathetic!

I’ll never have private lessons for my kids, you learn by repetition and creativity- playing in the streets and fields with friends,etc.

All the private trainers I know of around the Tysons/Vienna/Fairfax areas charge a huge chunk of $ and don’t report it on their taxes and then take the governments $ for Food stamps and other handouts. I will not feed into this bullshit. One I know of is from another country and he drives a fancy car and takes lavish vacations. Just sick.....

oh look it negative Nancy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://deadspin.com/can-american-soccers-salvation-be-found-in-the-streets-1835411389

Why do we accept this terrible system ?

Soccer training has become a real $ pit! It’s just pure pathetic!

I’ll never have private lessons for my kids, you learn by repetition and creativity- playing in the streets and fields with friends,etc.

All the private trainers I know of around the Tysons/Vienna/Fairfax areas charge a huge chunk of $ and don’t report it on their taxes and then take the governments $ for Food stamps and other handouts. I will not feed into this bullshit. One I know of is from another country and he drives a fancy car and takes lavish vacations. Just sick.....

What does being from another country have to do with anything?

Absolutely nothing. Just one I’m the area ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

Yes we do.

They just want to keep their money and let parents fund it instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

Yes we do.

They just want to keep their money and let parents fund it instead.

I'll put the greed of NFL, MLB and NBA owners up against anyone. But they reluctantly recognize that paying for talent maximizes their profitability, so those are big-money sports. A youth coach in one of those sports who can identify and develop talent, and steer it to the next stage, can live a very comfortable life indeed. A kid who shows talent will have no problem finding someone to cover their bills.

In soccer, the money flows the other way, up from the bottom. In youth soccer, not only are families expected to pay all the costs but their also expected to kick some up to the higher levels. DC United used to come to our club all the time talking about "partnership" opportunities, which to them meant one and only one thing: us giving them money.

Incidentally, it's the same for soccer referees. That nice guy who refs your kid's game has to pay an annual registration fee to US Soccer. About a quarter of that fee goes to subsidize the pay of MLS referees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

Yes we do.

They just want to keep their money and let parents fund it instead.

I'll put the greed of NFL, MLB and NBA owners up against anyone. But they reluctantly recognize that paying for talent maximizes their profitability, so those are big-money sports. A youth coach in one of those sports who can identify and develop talent, and steer it to the next stage, can live a very comfortable life indeed. A kid who shows talent will have no problem finding someone to cover their bills.

In soccer, the money flows the other way, up from the bottom. In youth soccer, not only are families expected to pay all the costs but their also expected to kick some up to the higher levels. DC United used to come to our club all the time talking about "partnership" opportunities, which to them meant one and only one thing: us giving them money.

Incidentally, it's the same for soccer referees. That nice guy who refs your kid's game has to pay an annual registration fee to US Soccer. About a quarter of that fee goes to subsidize the pay of MLS referees.

And that's the point-- in countries with strong pro leagues the money flows the other way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

[phone]

But this topic turd bubbles to the surface with various international match results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t have a lucrative pro league at the top to fund it.

Yes we do.

They just want to keep their money and let parents fund it instead.

I'll put the greed of NFL, MLB and NBA owners up against anyone. But they reluctantly recognize that paying for talent maximizes their profitability, so those are big-money sports. A youth coach in one of those sports who can identify and develop talent, and steer it to the next stage, can live a very comfortable life indeed. A kid who shows talent will have no problem finding someone to cover their bills.

In soccer, the money flows the other way, up from the bottom. In youth soccer, not only are families expected to pay all the costs but their also expected to kick some up to the higher levels. DC United used to come to our club all the time talking about "partnership" opportunities, which to them meant one and only one thing: us giving them money.

Incidentally, it's the same for soccer referees. That nice guy who refs your kid's game has to pay an annual registration fee to US Soccer. About a quarter of that fee goes to subsidize the pay of MLS referees.

And that's the point-- in countries with strong pro leagues the money flows the other way.

Sort of. The problem in the US is that the the MLS Players Association is preventing our youth clubs from receiving the financial benefits all other youth clubs get for developing pro athletes. Therefore the $$ has to come from the parents of the players instead of the pro clubs.

[Anonymous]

Yawn. There are money grabs all over youth sports. Just be lucky you don’t have kids who play hoops. At tourneys, most places charge 8 bucks per person to watch your child, grandchild, sibling play ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. There are money grabs all over youth sports. Just be lucky you don’t have kids who play hoops. At tourneys, most places charge 8 bucks per person to watch your child, grandchild, sibling play ball.

Curious. Do they charge the team to register and play too, or is the $8 the way in which the tourneys recoup costs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. There are money grabs all over youth sports. Just be lucky you don’t have kids who play hoops. At tourneys, most places charge 8 bucks per person to watch your child, grandchild, sibling play ball.

Curious. Do they charge the team to register and play too, or is the $8 the way in which the tourneys recoup costs?

Both, and at all ages. As a comparison, it would be like the Arlington tournament charging all of the teams a fee to sign up and participate in the tournament, and then charging each parent, grandparent and sibling $8 per person to watch the soccer games. So if you are a family of five, and if you, your spouse and your other two kids want to watch the other child play soccer in the tourney, then you are paying $32 on Saturday and $32 on Sunday for the privilege of standing on a sideline and supporting your child. U8 - U19. It is absurd. I would not be surprised if the same is true for volleyball, but fortunately we don't have a kid who plays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. There are money grabs all over youth sports. Just be lucky you don’t have kids who play hoops. At tourneys, most places charge 8 bucks per person to watch your child, grandchild, sibling play ball.

Curious. Do they charge the team to register and play too, or is the $8 the way in which the tourneys recoup costs?

Both, and at all ages. As a comparison, it would be like the Arlington tournament charging all of the teams a fee to sign up and participate in the tournament, and then charging each parent, grandparent and sibling $8 per person to watch the soccer games. So if you are a family of five, and if you, your spouse and your other two kids want to watch the other child play soccer in the tourney, then you are paying $32 on Saturday and $32 on Sunday for the privilege of standing on a sideline and supporting your child. U8 - U19. It is absurd. I would not be surprised if the same is true for volleyball, but fortunately we don't have a kid who plays.

Wow, that stinks. They charge admission to my kid’s high school soccer games but that’s obviously no comparison at all since we don’t pay thousands for him to play.