Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:It seems that many posters are fine with Supreme Court decisions, as long as they agree with what's decided.

Sounds like you defined "everyone" for us. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

So what?

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

So? Why should we care?

Women who want their pregnancies should have access to the medical treatments that will allow them to sustain them and give birth to a healthy baby.

Women who DO NOT want their pregnancies should have access to the medical treatments that allow them to terminate the pregnancy and have a full and healthy recovery.

Women who want their pregnancies, but come to find that their pregnancies will result in a child that is not viable outside of the womb OR that the pregnancy may jeopardize their life should have access to the medical treatments that allow th to terminate the pregnancy and have a full and healthy recovery.

PERIOD.

So sick of "prolifers" putting the "rights" of a pregnancy above those of a fully formed, independent adult woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

Quite honestly, PP, your experience is wholly irrelevant to anyone else. You can stop repeating that one line. It's not as powerful as you think it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Younger generations have been more pro-life than their parents. The politics of this may not play out as intended.

On the other hand, this will lead to the birth of more babies that will grow up to vote for Democrats.

If younger generations have been more anti-abortion, it's because they don't have memories of the desperation of relatives and friends with unwanted pregnancies, or of those who died or nearly died or lost their uterus because of botched back-alley abortions, or don't know of people whose lives were derailed because of being forced to bring a pregnancy to term. Now let's see what happens when they learn of the consequences of denying women safe abortions.

Don't worry. The bolded isn't true. it's a fantasy concocted by Students For Life.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-a-new-age-gap-on-abortion-rights/

"According to the General Social Survey,1 young Americans’ views on obtaining an abortion have not been appreciably different from the public’s overall for much of the past 40-plus years. That changed fairly recently, though. On the question of whether someone should be able to get an abortion for any reason, 64 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds agreed in 2021, a 20-percentage-point increase from a decade earlier."

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

So what?

Perhaps they understood you wouldn’t appreciate the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there have been pain studies of preterm infants before 25 weeks who do seem to indicate pain responses. But again, we can't know and while I think it is wrong to dismiss the possibility because it makes you [general] look rigid and unwilling to accept new info, it is not a strong argument because of how the procedure is performed AND the use of analgesics to dull pain.

Christ save us from these people. Studies done on infants. Infants are different than fetuses. If you doubt this, if you truly think that birth changes no systems, maybe consider that a fetus isn’t breathing with its lungs in utero.

And again: 92% of abortions occur at less than 13 weeks. The ones that occur later occurred because forced birthers just couldn’t stop themselves from inventing every conceivable (no pun intended) barrier possible. 8 week fetuses, which are really 6 weeks old, do not have pain receptors.

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Anonymous wrote:Corporations need to speak up and leave states that have banned abortions. Offering to pay for women to travel out of state doesn’t cut it. No reason for women’s privacy to be violated to uphold an extreme religious doctrine.

Agree. This is a major human rights issue. Out of these states. I’m ready to boycott the companies that don’t leave.

Yep, and finally the tiny humans are being represented. You live in a bubble. Even if most support early abortion, the number of people who are sooo pro-abort that they will boycott companies that don't leave states where abortion is legal is tiny.

As if you give a sh!t about humans. Women are humans and you clearly don't care about them.

Who is representing the millions of hungry and homeless children, those without families and those without health insurance? Not any of you cons. You fetishize embryos and shrug when 10 year olds get pulverized by guns you salivate over. Hypocrite.

Gotta have more parentless 10 year olds to feed the GOP lust for pedophilia. They have a serious problem.

Amy did want to address the lack of adoptable White babies. You have to wonder at the obsession. If it’s about “life,” surely you would take any baby to guarantee it its best shot at life.

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Anonymous wrote:Younger generations have been more pro-life than their parents. The politics of this may not play out as intended.

On the other hand, this will lead to the birth of more babies that will grow up to vote for Democrats.

If younger generations have been more anti-abortion, it's because they don't have memories of the desperation of relatives and friends with unwanted pregnancies, or of those who died or nearly died or lost their uterus because of botched back-alley abortions, or don't know of people whose lives were derailed because of being forced to bring a pregnancy to term. Now let's see what happens when they learn of the consequences of denying women safe abortions.

It’s easy to have opinions when you don’t have to face consequences for them. Abortion is gone now in half the country. Can’t take it for granted that someone’s going to be around to defend it so you can have the luxury of being pro life every day except the one you have your needed and justified abortion.

Reminds me of all the people refusing to vax their kids. It’s easy to brag about natural immunity and “toxic chemicals” until your kid is blind for measles or permanently disfigured from tetanus.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

You don’t need to keep repeating yourself. No one cares that you had doctors who played fast and loose with vocabulary. Mine called my fetus “little chicken.” That does not mean that it was literally a chicken.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the world that conservatives fantasize about. Women's lives being destroyed.

They’re happier than a tick on a dog, yes. They are overjoyed that lives are going to be wrecked from here till this court is fixed. I bet Sammy will be skipping around in his underpants this weekend thinking about all the rape victims who will be tethered to their rapist forever. You know. For life!

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

Those doctors did nit know what I was thinking or planning to do when they first saw me.

Noticed that you didn't address the question of other women not accepting the choice you made to undergo a potentially life-threatening process.

No, because that's not what I was addressing. I'll say it again, no doctor, female or male, ever referred to my "fetus."

You don’t need to keep repeating yourself. No one cares that you had doctors who played fast and loose with vocabulary. Mine called my fetus “little chicken.” That does not mean that it was literally a chicken.

Now you’re going to confuse the poor lamb.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there have been pain studies of preterm infants before 25 weeks who do seem to indicate pain responses. But again, we can't know and while I think it is wrong to dismiss the possibility because it makes you [general] look rigid and unwilling to accept new info, it is not a strong argument because of how the procedure is performed AND the use of analgesics to dull pain.

Christ save us from these people. Studies done on infants. Infants are different than fetuses. If you doubt this, if you truly think that birth changes no systems, maybe consider that a fetus isn’t breathing with its lungs in utero.

And again: 92% of abortions occur at less than 13 weeks. The ones that occur later occurred because forced birthers just couldn’t stop themselves from inventing every conceivable (no pun intended) barrier possible. 8 week fetuses, which are really 6 weeks old, do not have pain receptors.

Did you read anything I wrote in the above and collapsed posts or just jump to being ornery? In another post, I am alos quite clear that all the science in the world won't change someone's mind if they have any contradictory study to fall back on, so it is more efficient and persuasive to throw analgesics their way. That way, you can see if you are in fact dealing with a good faith argument (and there are some people who truly believe fetuses are in pain but lean towards pro-choice...I know I'd like to get through to those people)>

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That's not funny even provocative. Rapists don't want to father children.

They mean creating more victims. No one thinks rapists care about their children.

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Anonymous wrote:Pro life and highly educated here. I had two unplanned pregnancies. Two sons, both are now adults, and their leftist father and family tried to get me to abort.

Highly educated but can’t figure out that you got to make your own choice here, the same choice you want to take away from women. Since forced birthers like you have trouble with this, imagine that the “leftist father” with whom you had intercourse with (outside the bonds of marriage) had been allowed to force you to abort.

(And you twice conceived with a man who didn’t want children? Odd that you, according to the forced birth dogma I’ve been subjected to, didn’t take any kind of precautions or personal responsibility.)

Abortion isn’t banned. It’s now up to the states to decide what they want to make law, and what they don’t. If the leftist father was able to make me abort, the same people screaming now would be supporting him and not my right to choose to keep the kids. And I was married at the time.

Half of the states have already banned abortion, because they have trigger laws that went into place as soon as Roe v. Wade was overturned. I don’t know why you people keep needing this to be explained to you.

Because they’re the dogs that caught the car. They know this is bad. They know this is terrible. They never thought they’d get their way because they refuse to learn the extent to which their party is a corrupt machine and they’re just tools.