Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

OK.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

OK.

Don’t ask repeatedly if you don’t want the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

OK.

Don’t ask repeatedly if you don’t want the answer.

Where was the question?

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

OK.

Don’t ask repeatedly if you don’t want the answer.

Where was the question?

Right, right, DP. I got you anonymous. I trust if you are interested you know how to click back in the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

OK.

Don’t ask repeatedly if you don’t want the answer.

Where was the question?

Right, right, DP. I got you anonymous. I trust if you are interested you know how to click back in the thread.

OK. This seems like a waste of time, but OK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Travis reminds me of Britney slumming it with Kevin Federline. Sure Travis is a wealthy athlete, but both are stupid, trashy and clearly mooching off the respective pop star.

Seems to me that Kevin actually showed up to be a decent dad over the years. Britney not so much. But men bad etc

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Anonymous wrote:Travis reminds me of Britney slumming it with Kevin Federline. Sure Travis is a wealthy athlete, but both are stupid, trashy and clearly mooching off the respective pop star.

Seems to me that Kevin actually showed up to be a decent dad over the years. Britney not so much. But men bad etc

WTF? After gaslighting her through postpartum illness??!! You think he's a decent dad?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us are private with our "I love you"s.

There is nothing private about this obnoxious oversharing pap walk relationship. She told people to vote but she can’t tell her alleged boyfriend of a year plus she loves him while accepting an award? Speaks volumes.

It does? What does it say exactly? Encouraging people to vote v. saying I love you. How are those two things connected and the presence of one and absence of another tells you something?

They're soooooooo madly in love, they fly all over the world to see each other, he overshares every cringe detail on his boring podcast, they're drunk and grinding on each other at the U.S. Open....... but she won't say I love you to him while accepting numerous music awards. Mmmmmk.

Has she ever said she loved a boyfriend during an acceptance speech?

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

Can’t do it with a broken heart is about going through a breakup and faking happiness when she’s working. How does that apply to her life currently?

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

Can’t do it with a broken heart is about going through a breakup and faking happiness when she’s working. How does that apply to her life currently?

It doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

Can’t do it with a broken heart is about going through a breakup and faking happiness when she’s working. How does that apply to her life currently?

It doesn't.

Did you know she felt that way when she was performing earlier?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis reminds me of Britney slumming it with Kevin Federline. Sure Travis is a wealthy athlete, but both are stupid, trashy and clearly mooching off the respective pop star.

Seems to me that Kevin actually showed up to be a decent dad over the years. Britney not so much. But men bad etc

WTF? After gaslighting her through postpartum illness??!! You think he's a decent dad?

Compared to her yes. She is mentally ill.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

I’m not the one ‘coming up with this crap” there are many posters all over questioning their behavior at the US Open.

When I was rushing a sorority, I would behave in a similar manner, party girl with my boyfriend. But I realized it felt hollow to me, like the people who I was around only knew this one little facet of me and wouldn’t appreciate my real reactions. I wasn’t being real with them and so they in turn never got to know the real me who didn’t really enjoy drinking in public or making a spectacle of myself.

I only write this to say I wonder because there is a part of me that wonders how people actually enjoy acting like that. Clearly we have a different point of view on this.

Taylor is clearly in a class by herself and can do whatever she wants and I’m sure she will do it better than I could ever dream to. You will get no argument from me on that. But, if you are so sure they look happy, why does it bother you if someone questions them?

Because it's weird. That's all. You're comparing yourself rushing a sorority to the biggest pop star in the world with cameras on her wherever she goes? That's weird. And every time I see one of these posts, they strike me as trying so hard for someone to be unhappy, despite all evidence that she's herself is putting out there that she's happy. What motivates that, is what I'm asking? Why this need for something to be wrong because it doesn't look like or act like you do, when none of us can fathom what it's like to live in that fishbowl.

You are not explaining yourself very well and keep falling back on “weird”
I don’t care what she does frankly, I’ve been explaining why I see her behavior as maybe not the portrayal of happiness. I think her life sucks and what is weird by definition (ie not typical) is Taylor’s life.
She has flip flopped between “ I’m a shy nerdy girl in the bleachers” to “ I’m a party girl with my squad and boyfriend”. She still plays in both those tropes (see childless cat lady signature on the Kamala endorsement) and she is just doing it to make money,
So yes, I question her “happiness” because she is sending mixed messages about who she claims to be.

You mean her behavior changes as she moves through life and has new and different experiences and she doesn't act exactly the same year after year, and each relationship is different? How utterly mixed messaging can one get?

There is a reason why I chose two events as examples that happened within 24 hours. She is using and playing off both the stereotypes in her cheer captain and sneakers song. You see it as personal growth, I see it as part of her marketing/PR strategy.i don’t see her as wrong or her relationship s wrong, but I do think she is playing with women by using ‘perfect boyfriend/girlfriend’ imagery in her life. She is an instagram reel of sweet valley high grows up. It fascinates me that people eat this up so quickly and that Swifties cling to this so hard.

I think you see this as true happiness and all it is pictures of happiness- like an ad for white women in a relationship rather than the reality and day in day out mess that is life and love.

She has been manipulative about mixing her personal life and fandom from day one- I don’t trust it. Bottom line iWHAT WE SEE feels like an advertisement. Wether or not it is one only they know, but her history with fans so far has always been to use her personal life to make money- why would this be different?

Ok. Enjoy. Or … not.

I don’t enjoy it, but I am very curious about it. In the same way the PP asked 3 times why I don’t see her has happy- I don’t understand why you believe all the pap shots and public appearances make her happy.

What do you think I do it with a broken heart is about exactly? She even told you she fakes happiness in front of a crowd. So, I ask why do you believe she is so incredibly happy? The only thing I can come up with is that you want to believe in the fantasy she is selling. But that isn’t real becuase fantasies by definition can’t be.

Can’t do it with a broken heart is about going through a breakup and faking happiness when she’s working. How does that apply to her life currently?

It doesn't.

Did you know she felt that way when she was performing earlier?

I would’ve assumed she was heartbroken at the time, after both Joe and Matty, but it would have been unprofessional if she didn’t put on a good face for her shows. Don’t we all hide pain when we’re at work? She wasn’t “acting” more than anyone else would, except she couldn’t call off for a few days.

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Anonymous wrote:I root for people to leave relationships when they're toxic, abusive, etc., knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I root for people to stay together when they seem happy and having fun, knowing of course I don't have a say and it doesn't impact my life. I can't fathom the motivation to root for people to fail in a relationship when they seem happy and having fun. What makes people do that?

All of that depends on what you think of as toxic. Were TNT really having fun at the US open or was it more of the let’s get drunk so we can enjoy each other’s presence and then we can give the camera some good shots?
I think what is intriguing to people is the attempt to “read the signs’ and predict the future kind of thing.
I dunno, but tabloid like gossip about celebrities is as old as time.

I mean, yeah. They looked like they were having fun. I just don't get where you're coming up with this crap.

She’s going to be preggers within 3 months.