DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

Nothing says ignorance more than hanging all kinds of speculative conclusions on a W or L here and there at U15's age

Especially when there are younger players playing up and the stronger U15's are playing U16's

excuses, U14s play up what about U15s bench? DCU developing these U14 play up not the bench ok. Taking spot from m DS

Exactly. And playing up is DCUs bogus way of trying to show unsuspecting parents that their kids are getting opportunities/developed when in reality it is just about hiding the fact that there is no development happening there. Playing up should mean you are at least a very strong contributor at the up age group and not just barely hanging on in the games. If it is the latter then it isn't a development opportunity. It is actually hurting the player. Just another example of DCUs faults as an academy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

It can easily happen when one team has been playing together for a while and has an identity. Was that DC United team freshly put together?

[Anonymous]

But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

It can easily happen when one team has been playing together for a while and has an identity. Was that DC United team freshly put together?

Been at DCU for two years. Majority of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

It can easily happen when one team has been playing together for a while and has an identity. Was that DC United team freshly put together?

Been at DCU for two years. Majority of them.

And you can only be at DCU for 4 years. so half of their development time at the club is gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

Nothing says ignorance more than hanging all kinds of speculative conclusions on a W or L here and there at U15's age

Especially when there are younger players playing up and the stronger U15's are playing U16's

Nothing says ignorance more than believing something to be true when constantly presented with information that clearly shows what you believe isn't true.

Wins and losses in youth soccer don't matter. Especially when you're talking about legitimately building professional players. But since DCU isn't actually about building professional players then winning is a huge part of what they want to achieve to differentiate themselves amongst their peers - just like every other pay to play club (which they are not). They can't do that successfully because they don't have strong coaches, teaching methodology, or a philosophy in the system that breeds a winning culture, mentality or playing style.

Losing to PDA isn't the travesty. The PP is right about winning not being important. Although, I'm sorry to hear they lost to a non MLS academy - again. The travesty is that you have some talented kids who will not develop to their potential because they are in a poor academy system that doesn't value their development as footballers. Winning every game on the schedule wouldn't change this fact. And when you see the DCU teams as they get older when they play more of the other MLS academies, you can visibly see the difference in development between DCU players and their peers. It's so obvious that it's almost sad to watch because the differences in quality are so glaring. And DCU teams are even less successful as they get older because their teams of predominantly early bloomers and physical players lose their physical edge over time (peaking too early) because everyone else catches up or is just more physical as they've gotten older and then DCU players have to rely on their technical ability and game understanding to be successful which they haven't properly learned.

The recruitment model at DCU skews toward players that have a tendency to peak very early because it leans heavily on physicality and size. Go watch DCUs older teams versus ANY other MLS academy and see for yourself how this flaw in recruitment and teaching gets exposed against quality organizations that think long term about player development, not short term. The differences in quality are obvious to even someone that knows absolutely nothing about the game.

If DCU players are the physical giants in MLS Next, then pictures and eyes lie.
Because the reality on the fields regarding the sizes of players doesn't match your false narrative.
Not seeing players smaller than DCU on FC Delco, Philly Union, Redbulls, Bethesda, SYC, BA etc

Do you have the height and weight information on MLS Next players?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

NO. DCU has a lot of physical players that don't really know how to play. And they aren't being taught. Big difference. Playing up doesn't help them because they mainly just use their size to compete not their technical ability. That size advantage will run out. That's proven.

Other academies in the world certainly play kids up. But they do so in a way that is much more thoughtful, to the earlier post. Bigger kids may stay on age longer to develop their feet so they aren't relying just on their physicality to get by which has proven to be a development killer.

I know quite a bit about football. What I know with utmost certainty is that I know more than you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

Nothing says ignorance more than hanging all kinds of speculative conclusions on a W or L here and there at U15's age

Especially when there are younger players playing up and the stronger U15's are playing U16's

Nothing says ignorance more than believing something to be true when constantly presented with information that clearly shows what you believe isn't true.

Wins and losses in youth soccer don't matter. Especially when you're talking about legitimately building professional players. But since DCU isn't actually about building professional players then winning is a huge part of what they want to achieve to differentiate themselves amongst their peers - just like every other pay to play club (which they are not). They can't do that successfully because they don't have strong coaches, teaching methodology, or a philosophy in the system that breeds a winning culture, mentality or playing style.

Losing to PDA isn't the travesty. The PP is right about winning not being important. Although, I'm sorry to hear they lost to a non MLS academy - again. The travesty is that you have some talented kids who will not develop to their potential because they are in a poor academy system that doesn't value their development as footballers. Winning every game on the schedule wouldn't change this fact. And when you see the DCU teams as they get older when they play more of the other MLS academies, you can visibly see the difference in development between DCU players and their peers. It's so obvious that it's almost sad to watch because the differences in quality are so glaring. And DCU teams are even less successful as they get older because their teams of predominantly early bloomers and physical players lose their physical edge over time (peaking too early) because everyone else catches up or is just more physical as they've gotten older and then DCU players have to rely on their technical ability and game understanding to be successful which they haven't properly learned.

The recruitment model at DCU skews toward players that have a tendency to peak very early because it leans heavily on physicality and size. Go watch DCUs older teams versus ANY other MLS academy and see for yourself how this flaw in recruitment and teaching gets exposed against quality organizations that think long term about player development, not short term. The differences in quality are obvious to even someone that knows absolutely nothing about the game.

If DCU players are the physical giants in MLS Next, then pictures and eyes lie.
Because the reality on the fields regarding the sizes of players doesn't match your false narrative.
Not seeing players smaller than DCU on FC Delco, Philly Union, Redbulls, Bethesda, SYC, BA etc

Do you have the height and weight information on MLS Next players?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

NO. DCU has a lot of physical players that don't really know how to play. And they aren't being taught. Big difference. Playing up doesn't help them because they mainly just use their size to compete not their technical ability. That size advantage will run out. That's proven.

Other academies in the world certainly play kids up. But they do so in a way that is much more thoughtful, to the earlier post. Bigger kids may stay on age longer to develop their feet so they aren't relying just on their physicality to get by which has proven to be a development killer.

I know quite a bit about football. What I know with utmost certainty is that I know more than you do.

Your simpleton amateur biased opinion has been noted.

Do you have this much unhealthy obsession to your kid's actual club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS second years at DCU, this year group not strong, non-academy PDA just out played us.

DCU lost to PDA? An Academy team lost to a NON academy team?

Nothing says ignorance more than hanging all kinds of speculative conclusions on a W or L here and there at U15's age

Especially when there are younger players playing up and the stronger U15's are playing U16's

Nothing says ignorance more than believing something to be true when constantly presented with information that clearly shows what you believe isn't true.

Wins and losses in youth soccer don't matter. Especially when you're talking about legitimately building professional players. But since DCU isn't actually about building professional players then winning is a huge part of what they want to achieve to differentiate themselves amongst their peers - just like every other pay to play club (which they are not). They can't do that successfully because they don't have strong coaches, teaching methodology, or a philosophy in the system that breeds a winning culture, mentality or playing style.

Losing to PDA isn't the travesty. The PP is right about winning not being important. Although, I'm sorry to hear they lost to a non MLS academy - again. The travesty is that you have some talented kids who will not develop to their potential because they are in a poor academy system that doesn't value their development as footballers. Winning every game on the schedule wouldn't change this fact. And when you see the DCU teams as they get older when they play more of the other MLS academies, you can visibly see the difference in development between DCU players and their peers. It's so obvious that it's almost sad to watch because the differences in quality are so glaring. And DCU teams are even less successful as they get older because their teams of predominantly early bloomers and physical players lose their physical edge over time (peaking too early) because everyone else catches up or is just more physical as they've gotten older and then DCU players have to rely on their technical ability and game understanding to be successful which they haven't properly learned.

The recruitment model at DCU skews toward players that have a tendency to peak very early because it leans heavily on physicality and size. Go watch DCUs older teams versus ANY other MLS academy and see for yourself how this flaw in recruitment and teaching gets exposed against quality organizations that think long term about player development, not short term. The differences in quality are obvious to even someone that knows absolutely nothing about the game.

If DCU players are the physical giants in MLS Next, then pictures and eyes lie.
Because the reality on the fields regarding the sizes of players doesn't match your false narrative.
Not seeing players smaller than DCU on FC Delco, Philly Union, Redbulls, Bethesda, SYC, BA etc

Do you have the height and weight information on MLS Next players?

Anyone who advances an argument that DCU doesn't skew toward bigger kids cannot and should not be trusted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

NO. DCU has a lot of physical players that don't really know how to play. And they aren't being taught. Big difference. Playing up doesn't help them because they mainly just use their size to compete not their technical ability. That size advantage will run out. That's proven.

Other academies in the world certainly play kids up. But they do so in a way that is much more thoughtful, to the earlier post. Bigger kids may stay on age longer to develop their feet so they aren't relying just on their physicality to get by which has proven to be a development killer.

I know quite a bit about football. What I know with utmost certainty is that I know more than you do.

So now the kids at dcua "don't know how to play"?

Why don't you reveal yourself to their parents mister expert?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

NO. DCU has a lot of physical players that don't really know how to play. And they aren't being taught. Big difference. Playing up doesn't help them because they mainly just use their size to compete not their technical ability. That size advantage will run out. That's proven.

Other academies in the world certainly play kids up. But they do so in a way that is much more thoughtful, to the earlier post. Bigger kids may stay on age longer to develop their feet so they aren't relying just on their physicality to get by which has proven to be a development killer.

I know quite a bit about football. What I know with utmost certainty is that I know more than you do.

Your simpleton amateur biased opinion has been noted.

Do you have this much unhealthy obsession to your kid's actual club?

🥱🥱🚮

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But parents get their ego stroked when their kid plays up and DCU plays on this in a big way and uses it as a tool to keep the peace only. Again, the facade of a genuine opportunity. It isn't about development.

So, DCU has strong players with heightened potential playing up against older more developed players it's a trick and not about individual development.

Every other professional academy in the world does the same, it is a part of individual development philosophy 🤔

You and the other DCUA Haters need to go see a psychiatrist.
You also need to understand you don't know close to as much as you think you know about youth development, or you wouldn't talk so much nonsense in public.

NO. DCU has a lot of physical players that don't really know how to play. And they aren't being taught. Big difference. Playing up doesn't help them because they mainly just use their size to compete not their technical ability. That size advantage will run out. That's proven.

Other academies in the world certainly play kids up. But they do so in a way that is much more thoughtful, to the earlier post. Bigger kids may stay on age longer to develop their feet so they aren't relying just on their physicality to get by which has proven to be a development killer.

I know quite a bit about football. What I know with utmost certainty is that I know more than you do.

So now the kids at dcua "don't know how to play"?

Why don't you reveal yourself to their parents mister expert?

Some do and some don't. Like all other academies. Difference is at the other academies they are being taught.

[Anonymous]

There is more to football than just running hard...