AAP for incoming students

[Anonymous]

Has anyone had experience moving into Fairfax from another school district, as far as Level 4 eligibility? What is the process? Is there a significant handicap? Did you prep somehow?

We are looking to move into Fairfax County, but won't be able to do so until our child is in 2nd grade at the earliest. We will only move if there is a reasonable expectation that our child can get into Level 3 / 4 instruction; otherwise we can just as well continue to put up with "education" in our county.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

level 3 is not worth moving for-once a week or twice a month for an hour pullouts.

go spend $400 on a WISC for your kid and see how smart he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:level 3 is not worth moving for-once a week or twice a month for an hour pullouts.

go spend $400 on a WISC for your kid and see how smart he is.

Thanks for feedback on Level 3, will ignore it then.

Is WISC the test that the county uses to determine whether children are eligible for Level 4?

I have a normal kid - she is 4 y.o. now, reads in our language, speaks our language + conversational English, counts to 100 by ones / tens / fives and back in both our language and English, adds and subtracts small numbers. Follows directions well. Draws princesses. Nothing special that I can see as far as true "gifted", but I think she may be eligible. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Be advised that high IQ is not a factor to admission. DD was was in gifted program prior to moving to FCPS. DD did not impress her FCPS teacher which is a big part of AAP eligibility. DD has genius IQ . DD did not get in to AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be advised that high IQ is not a factor to admission. DD was was in gifted program prior to moving to FCPS. DD did not impress her FCPS teacher which is a big part of AAP eligibility. DD has genius IQ . DD did not get in to AAP.

They're rejecting kids with 140+ on the WISC now?! That's just crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be advised that high IQ is not a factor to admission. DD was was in gifted program prior to moving to FCPS. DD did not impress her FCPS teacher which is a big part of AAP eligibility. DD has genius IQ . DD did not get in to AAP.

Do you feel that moving into FCPS in 2nd grade makes it much harder for a child to get into Level 4, now that you have lived through your experience?

Let me give you an example. My older child moved into another county in 1st grade. They had early math tracking, and gave my child the test. In a somewhat unorthodox fashion, they referred to math equations as "number sentences". Due to that unusual language, my child failed the test, and was placed into on-grade math. Thankfully, other pathways existed, and by 6th grade she was 2 full years ahead of the grade level mathematics.

I am worried about a similar situation if we move into the FCPS late in the game, and wondering what idiosyncrasies exist in that jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be advised that high IQ is not a factor to admission. DD was was in gifted program prior to moving to FCPS. DD did not impress her FCPS teacher which is a big part of AAP eligibility. DD has genius IQ . DD did not get in to AAP.

Do you feel that moving into FCPS in 2nd grade makes it much harder for a child to get into Level 4, now that you have lived through your experience?

Let me give you an example. My older child moved into another county in 1st grade. They had early math tracking, and gave my child the test. In a somewhat unorthodox fashion, they referred to math equations as "number sentences". Due to that unusual language, my child failed the test, and was placed into on-grade math. Thankfully, other pathways existed, and by 6th grade she was 2 full years ahead of the grade level mathematics.

I am worried about a similar situation if we move into the FCPS late in the game, and wondering what idiosyncrasies exist in that jurisdiction.

That is orthodox. Equations are number sentences. And, as you indicated, math tracking in 1st grade had your DC 2 years ahead in math in 6th grade, so it sounds like that school did it well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be advised that high IQ is not a factor to admission. DD was was in gifted program prior to moving to FCPS. DD did not impress her FCPS teacher which is a big part of AAP eligibility. DD has genius IQ . DD did not get in to AAP.

Do you feel that moving into FCPS in 2nd grade makes it much harder for a child to get into Level 4, now that you have lived through your experience?

Let me give you an example. My older child moved into another county in 1st grade. They had early math tracking, and gave my child the test. In a somewhat unorthodox fashion, they referred to math equations as "number sentences". Due to that unusual language, my child failed the test, and was placed into on-grade math. Thankfully, other pathways existed, and by 6th grade she was 2 full years ahead of the grade level mathematics.

I am worried about a similar situation if we move into the FCPS late in the game, and wondering what idiosyncrasies exist in that jurisdiction.

That is orthodox. Equations are number sentences. And, as you indicated, math tracking in 1st grade had your DC 2 years ahead in math in 6th grade, so it sounds like that school did it well.

OP here - thanks! We were unfamiliar with that language. The school system was amazing at the elementary level, I agree. Miss it a lot, but we don't live there anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had experience moving into Fairfax from another school district, as far as Level 4 eligibility? What is the process? Is there a significant handicap? Did you prep somehow?

We are looking to move into Fairfax County, but won't be able to do so until our child is in 2nd grade at the earliest. We will only move if there is a reasonable expectation that our child can get into Level 3 / 4 instruction; otherwise we can just as well continue to put up with "education" in our county.

Thank you.

If you move in 2nd grade your child will take the CogAT, one of the baseline tests given for AAP.

There is no guarantee that any child will be accepted into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:level 3 is not worth moving for-once a week or twice a month for an hour pullouts.

go spend $400 on a WISC for your kid and see how smart he is.

Thanks for feedback on Level 3, will ignore it then.

Is WISC the test that the county uses to determine whether children are eligible for Level 4?

I have a normal kid - she is 4 y.o. now, reads in our language, speaks our language + conversational English, counts to 100 by ones / tens / fives and back in both our language and English, adds and subtracts small numbers. Follows directions well. Draws princesses. Nothing special that I can see as far as true "gifted", but I think she may be eligible. Thank you.

If there is t anything special that you can see why, at 4, do you think she may be eligible? You’re asking about something that’s years down the road.

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She can’t get the wisc for years still bc it wouldn’t be valid at this age.

[Anonymous]

I would recommend taking going to GMU and getting a WISC administered (GMU is a testing site recommended by FCPS) before you move. If your child scores 130+ they have a reasonable chance of admittance. There's the odd on-line scare story about kids with 140s not being admitted, but those cases are rare (and as anonymous forum you can put your own level of bs detectors on to assess). If your kid is under 125 it's pretty unlikely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend taking going to GMU and getting a WISC administered (GMU is a testing site recommended by FCPS) before you move. If your child scores 130+ they have a reasonable chance of admittance. There's the odd on-line scare story about kids with 140s not being admitted, but those cases are rare (and as anonymous forum you can put your own level of bs detectors on to assess). If your kid is under 125 it's pretty unlikely.

OP here: thanks! Will do in. 1st grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend taking going to GMU and getting a WISC administered (GMU is a testing site recommended by FCPS) before you move. If your child scores 130+ they have a reasonable chance of admittance. There's the odd on-line scare story about kids with 140s not being admitted, but those cases are rare (and as anonymous forum you can put your own level of bs detectors on to assess). If your kid is under 125 it's pretty unlikely.

I would recommend enjoying the child that you have and supporting them where ever they land in programs. If you are spending time at home reading to your child and engaging them, then more likely then not they will do well in school no matter where they attend. Parental involvement is key to any child's success.

[Anonymous]

If you enter FCPS after 2nd grade it’s extremely difficult to get in to AAP even if your child has very high IQ. If your child attends FCPS in grade 2 it’s fairly easy to get into AAP if teacher believes child will succeed. No IQ test is given for those applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you enter FCPS after 2nd grade it’s extremely difficult to get in to AAP even if your child has very high IQ. If your child attends FCPS in grade 2 it’s fairly easy to get into AAP if teacher believes child will succeed. No IQ test is given for those applicants.

This is incorrect. Submit test scores from your previous school and/or request that FCPS give your DC the Cogat or NNAT. Contact the AART, submit the information. Students who move to Fairfax for 3rd grade or older are admitted to AAP.