ISO Advice on adding a third child to nanny share

Anonymous
We are looking for compensation advice as we are adding our new baby to our existing nanny share.

Has anyone done this, and what was the resulting compensation bump? What was the new split between families /children? Any other tips to keep in mind?

Our 2.5 yo DS and a neighbor's 2.5 yo DD share a really great nanny. She has been with the kids for two years now. We have discussed adding our new baby to the share for several months before the other children start PK3. New baby will be 4-5 months old when joining the share.

How would you adjust hourly compensation. Current compensation is $22/hour split evenly per family.

Thanks
Anonymous
Personally, I wouldn't put my infant in a nannyshare with two older kids. That ratio is actually already at the maximum for childcare providers (1 infant and 2 older kids for one adult) in Maryland, and some daycares will actually use better/safer ratios.
Anonymous
That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.


So nanny will get $33 while two of the kids are in preschool? No way.

I would do $8 or $9 per kid, so $24 or $27 total.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.


So nanny will get $33 while two of the kids are in preschool? No way.

I would do $8 or $9 per kid, so $24 or $27 total.


So you are suggestion that the nanny take on a 3rd child -- an infant, nonetheless, for an extra 80 bucks per week?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.


So nanny will get $33 while two of the kids are in preschool? No way.

I would do $8 or $9 per kid, so $24 or $27 total.


So you are suggestion that the nanny take on a 3rd child -- an infant, nonetheless, for an extra 80 bucks per week?!


OP here. Seeing the proposal - $27 minus $22 = $5x 40 hours is $200 per week. We also do time and a half for any overtime. I think this is the ball park offer — to add about 50% of the hourly rate on top of her existing pay. It also roughly corresponds to what we would pay for two kids at daycare... the toddler would be way cheaper, the infant more expensive, but the total about the same.


Anonymous
You ask the nanny what she will charge and if you don't like what she tells you, you move on.
Anonymous
Particularly for the months when the nanny will have 3 full time, I don't think an extra $5 an hour is enough of a bump in pay. Adding an infant to the mix is a lot-significantly more work and juggling than adding another toddle/preschooler. I would definitely offer $33 for the months when she is hands on with all three, and then think about pay structure when the older two are in preschool part of the day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.


So nanny will get $33 while two of the kids are in preschool? No way.

I would do $8 or $9 per kid, so $24 or $27 total.


So you are suggestion that the nanny take on a 3rd child -- an infant, nonetheless, for an extra 80 bucks per week?!


OP here. Seeing the proposal - $27 minus $22 = $5x 40 hours is $200 per week. We also do time and a half for any overtime. I think this is the ball park offer — to add about 50% of the hourly rate on top of her existing pay. It also roughly corresponds to what we would pay for two kids at daycare... the toddler would be way cheaper, the infant more expensive, but the total about the same.




I think this is low, but I also think 2 toddlers plus an infant is a lot for one person FT. I don't know if I'd be thrilled if I were the other family in the share. Their child is going to get a lot less attention and they are essentially subsidizing your infant care.
Anonymous
There are two issues ... 1) what is appropriate for the nanny and 2) what is appropriate for the other family. You want them to pay the same amount as they were before but now their nanny has much more responsibility for a child that isn't their own? That's like you being told your daycare would cost the same but they were changing the ratio dramatically. Even if they seem cool with it, they are not going to be. They may very well just use aftercare and leave the share.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:



I don't know if I'd be thrilled if I were the other family in the share. Their child is going to get a lot less attention and they are essentially subsidizing your infant care.


This. I wouldn't do it, especially for the same price I was paying before. You've got to decrease the amount the other party pays as well as increase the nanny's pay.
Anonymous
We just contemplated this with our nanny share, and I am so glad we didn't end up doing it. Our nanny is wonderful, but there is no way she could take care of two toddlers and an infant in the way that the toddlers have become accustomed to. There is no benefit to the family with just the one kid (and I say this as the mom with the two). I'd look for another plan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We just contemplated this with our nanny share, and I am so glad we didn't end up doing it. Our nanny is wonderful, but there is no way she could take care of two toddlers and an infant in the way that the toddlers have become accustomed to. There is no benefit to the family with just the one kid (and I say this as the mom with the two). I'd look for another plan.


This. Not a good scenario.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That makes $11 per child. Since you're adding one you should pay $22 and the other family should still pay $11 per hour for their child.


So nanny will get $33 while two of the kids are in preschool? No way.

I would do $8 or $9 per kid, so $24 or $27 total.


So you are suggestion that the nanny take on a 3rd child -- an infant, nonetheless, for an extra 80 bucks per week?!


OP here. Seeing the proposal - $27 minus $22 = $5x 40 hours is $200 per week. We also do time and a half for any overtime. I think this is the ball park offer — to add about 50% of the hourly rate on top of her existing pay. It also roughly corresponds to what we would pay for two kids at daycare... the toddler would be way cheaper, the infant more expensive, but the total about the same.




You could get a nanny for just your two kids for 22$/hr without any of the hassles of the share. But I get that your older one is attached to the nanny.
Anonymous
1. Will nanny be doing anything with the older kids in the fall? If not and she’s going to start another share with your infant and another in the fall, get her hands on with the infant ASAP.
2. Can you find a middle/high schooler to come play with the toddlers at a local park or in the backyard in the morning during the summer? Prices start at $5/hr.
3. Does your nanny want to take care of an infant and 2 toddlers? If not, find another nanny.
4. Look into getting your own nanny. This may be transitioning this nanny to just your family, or it may be finding someone else.
5. Ask the nanny what her rate would be for the summer. If it’s higher than you can do (when split three ways, you paying two-thirds), the other family wouldn’t get a significant discount or there’s some other issue, see if she can negotiate with some other benefits.
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