FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

[Anonymous]

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This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

And, we need someone independent to do it. It is clear that some of these people have political pressure on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

I know it was discussed at the work session, but there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for what Reid initially recommended (a magnet with access limited to kids from western high schools) and several Board members clearly opposed that and/or thought it should be a neighborhood school.

They didn't do a good job of coming up with a clear consensus, but the direction seemed to be towards neighborhood school with some type of academy program that might open up in a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

I know it was discussed at the work session, but there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for what Reid initially recommended (a magnet with access limited to kids from western high schools) and several Board members clearly opposed that and/or thought it should be a neighborhood school.

They didn't do a good job of coming up with a clear consensus, but the direction seemed to be towards neighborhood school with some type of academy program that might open up in a few years.

I hope you are correct. I listened and did not get the impression they were ready to jump on a traditional school--which is very much needed. Not wanted, needed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

I know it was discussed at the work session, but there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for what Reid initially recommended (a magnet with access limited to kids from western high schools) and several Board members clearly opposed that and/or thought it should be a neighborhood school.

They didn't do a good job of coming up with a clear consensus, but the direction seemed to be towards neighborhood school with some type of academy program that might open up in a few years.

I hope you are correct. I listened and did not get the impression they were ready to jump on a traditional school--which is very much needed. Not wanted, needed!

+1. A couple mentioned overcrowding, but my takeaway was that this school will either be a partial or full magnet

[Anonymous]

Academy for a neighborhood school is different from a magnet school FCPS can add academy of local interest to Herndon HS and Lewis HS for hundreds of in-bpundary kids who transfer out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Academy for a neighborhood school is different from a magnet school FCPS can add academy of local interest to Herndon HS and Lewis HS for hundreds of in-bpundary kids who transfer out

If they really want to stem pupil placements they should put AAP in every middle school and make all high schools AP. That costs less and would have greater impact than a new academy program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy for a neighborhood school is different from a magnet school FCPS can add academy of local interest to Herndon HS and Lewis HS for hundreds of in-bpundary kids who transfer out

If they really want to stem pupil placements they should put AAP in every middle school and make all high schools AP. That costs less and would have greater impact than a new academy program.

But, there is a problem. Your suggestion makes sense. FCPS does not seem to like that quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy for a neighborhood school is different from a magnet school FCPS can add academy of local interest to Herndon HS and Lewis HS for hundreds of in-bpundary kids who transfer out

If they really want to stem pupil placements they should put AAP in every middle school and make all high schools AP. That costs less and would have greater impact than a new academy program.

+ 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

I know it was discussed at the work session, but there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for what Reid initially recommended (a magnet with access limited to kids from western high schools) and several Board members clearly opposed that and/or thought it should be a neighborhood school.

They didn't do a good job of coming up with a clear consensus, but the direction seemed to be towards neighborhood school with some type of academy program that might open up in a few years.

This is the take I got from watching the whole work session as well. The traditional school camp seemed firm in their belief that KAA should open as a traditional school. The academy / magnet people are just floating ideas that sounded nice but make no sense since they need all the space currently available for the school to make sense. There is no way they will get buy in from the other board members. The inertia isn't there to make it happen and I believe the most they will get is opening as a traditional school with the idea of doing an academy there some day, similar to the academy at Chantilly. Starting an academy will require more money to make the space for it (likely in one or both of the buildings on campus), which will need to be budgeted in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This possibility; as well as magnet-only, nieghborhood-only; has been discussed in the context a hypothetical Western HS for years, pre-dating Reid.

There's no doubt it will provide relief to the western county regardless of what form the on-site programming takes. If it's fully a <whatever> magnet program, or collection of programs, the vast majority of students who will apply and attend will be from the western county area, either via program rules (just like Immersion Programs where a high % of the students must come from in-boundary) or just natural self-selection. A family in southern portion of county would think long and hard about whether they want to endure the 2-3 hours of commuting back-and-forth daily for four years and what impact that would have on their experience. I'm sure some non-zero number would pursue that if available, but it would be way lower than the number of kids who'd be coming from the nearby areas. Layer on the hybrid school concept they've pitched and it'd be like 85-95% of the kids being from the western county schools and providing that capacity relief, even if they don't assert a hard boundary for any magnet programs.

By whom?
I live in western Fairfax. I've only seen a magnet or a western TJ mentioned in two places: [b]here on DCUM and occasionally from the Fairfax Federation of Citizens Association [/b](and one of the "education" leaders lives in Herndon. The other lives in McLean, I think.)

I have NEVER heard it discussed in my neighborhood at a PTA meeting or on the athletic fields.

DP. You gotta go listen to last week’s work session. Oh boy, you are in for a surprise.

I did listen to it. Who said the community wants a magnet? When has the School Board discussed it before?

Sure, some would be thrilled with a TJ West. But, that is not going to happen. And, it would not solve the overcrowding. And, a magnet school would not solve the overcrowding, either.

We know what you want. What we don't know is how many kids could attend KAA as a traditional high school or how much more needs to be invested in the facilities to make that happen.

Get your SB reps to request that information from Reid ASAP and make it public. Until then people will keep coming back to the possibility that KAA could be used as a magnet.

People keep coming back to the possibility of it being a magnet because, checks notes, that’s what the school board discussed at the work session.

I know it was discussed at the work session, but there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for what Reid initially recommended (a magnet with access limited to kids from western high schools) and several Board members clearly opposed that and/or thought it should be a neighborhood school.

They didn't do a good job of coming up with a clear consensus, but the direction seemed to be towards neighborhood school with some type of academy program that might open up in a few years.

This is the take I got from watching the whole work session as well. The traditional school camp seemed firm in their belief that KAA should open as a traditional school. The academy / magnet people are just floating ideas that sounded nice but make no sense since they need all the space currently available for the school to make sense. There is no way they will get buy in from the other board members. The inertia isn't there to make it happen and I believe the most they will get is opening as a traditional school with the idea of doing an academy there some day, similar to the academy at Chantilly. Starting an academy will require more money to make the space for it (likely in one or both of the buildings on campus), which will need to be budgeted in the future.

Reid needs to jettison “imagine the possibilities” and embrace “deal with the probabilities”!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy for a neighborhood school is different from a magnet school FCPS can add academy of local interest to Herndon HS and Lewis HS for hundreds of in-bpundary kids who transfer out

If they really want to stem pupil placements they should put AAP in every middle school and make all high schools AP. That costs less and would have greater impact than a new academy program.

+1

[Anonymous]

I would also really like schools to phase out IB over three years. Let the sophomores, juniors, and seniors finish the diploma. The freshman and everyone else can do AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also really like schools to phase out IB over three years. Let the sophomores, juniors, and seniors finish the diploma. The freshman and everyone else can do AP.

FCPS needs to pile a list of grades and test scores for the students using the IB loophole to transfer out of undercapacity low performing IB schools such as Lewis, then calculate whatever the school scores and ratings would be if the district put AP at every school and eliminated the IB loophole.

Then do the same with the grades and scores of the kids who transfer away from the middle schools like Key with no AP program.

I strongly suspect if they pulled the actual grades and test scores of the kids using AAP and IB to escape from key and Lewis and added them into the current scores and grades for those schools, FCPS would discover quite definitively that the scores and ratings for schools like Key and Lewis would significantly improve if FCPS got rid of IB and added AAP to every middle school, perhaps putting them on par with schools like Hayfield or South County.

[Anonymous]

Maybe make it a pre-med magnet?

That would leave TJ for those interested in engineering or science b